Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Mara's comment that we took advantage of a "loophole in the salary cap" is inane. Hey John, newsflash, there was no salary cap to have a loophole.

Exactly. The owners chose to go uncapped.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Exactly. The owners chose to go uncapped.

ya know that is such a obvious point that goes unnoticed in this argument. They opted out and chose to go uncapped, so if anyone should know better what they chose to do it should be Mara and the rest of the owners. They chose to not have a contract, nothing in writing...

Cant believe Goodell was this effing foolish to go along with this.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

ya know that is such a obvious point that goes unnoticed in this argument. They opted out and chose to go uncapped, so if anyone should know better what they chose to do it should be Mara and the rest of the owners. They chose to not have a contract, nothing in writing...

Cant believe Goodell was this effing foolish to go along with this.

But the figured they could opt of and go uncapped specifically because they thought they colluded to keep an unofficial salary cap in place. Now it's biting them in the ass.

[Lotus]

Skins and Pokes seek arbitration.

Redskins, Cowboys seek arbitration concerning cap - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

ya know that is such a obvious point that goes unnoticed in this argument. They opted out and chose to go uncapped, so if anyone should know better what they chose to do it should be Mara and the rest of the owners. They chose to not have a contract, nothing in writing...

Cant believe Goodell was this effing foolish to go along with this.

Nothing like having to wipe egg off your face and be forced to back an idiotic move you were forced to go along with. lol.

[NYCskinfan82]

Mara's statement proves you don't have to be smart to have $$$.

[SBXVII]

Sorry if this was already posted.

I'm not sure John Mara should be talking - NFC East Blog - ESPN

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Sorry if this was already posted.

I'm not sure John Mara should be talking - NFC East Blog - ESPN

I didn't see this thanks good no great read.

[Jontrem]

I am very happy with Graziano's handling of this issue. Makes me feel good to know someone at ESPN has the fans back in all of this.

[SBXVII]

Giantone,......

Where are you brother? I have something for you.....

Mara is wrong because the only thing of which the Redskins and Cowboys are guilty is failing to honor a shady gentleman's agreement between 32 billionaires who don't want to pay their employees any more than they have to. What the NFL, Mara and the other owners did, effectively imposing a salary cap when none had been agreed to by the other party (i.e., the players) in their collective bargaining agreement, was patently wrong. To punish the teams that didn't go along with the wrong, and to so strenuously defend the punishment as though it were right, is the height of arrogance

I'm just guessing but I assume you see our owner as a hero in all this, right?

Edit: sorry forgot the link. but it has been put up by me already.
I'm not sure John Mara should be talking - NFC East Blog - ESPN

[SBXVII]

I have a major question. Why was the CAP going to be lower? and if it was because of money income or some balanced budget then why was it so easy for the league/Goodell to agree to keep the CAP up around 120 mill?

Personally I think, if I'm correct, the whole lowering of the CAP was the leagues way of forcing the NFLPA to go along with the program. The CAP was going to remain the same no matter what but the league said they would lower it if the NFLPA didn't go along with it. Which to me is strong arming the NFLPA.

The way I see it if the CAP was going to be lowered because of some budget reason then the league wouldn't be able to adjust it so easily or keep it at 120 mill. They would be forced to lower it no matter what. No different then the league could raise it above 120mill if they so chose.

[SBXVII]

Here's another nice write up....

Opinions on penalties for Redskins, Cowboys vary as meeting looms - Don Banks - SI.com

I love this...

While league sources said the process of having the matter settled by an arbitrator always makes the outcome of the grievance process more difficult to predict, Mara expressed no sense of concern. But other league sources weren't as confident, and acknowledged that the size of cap penalties might be reduced as part of a final ruling, or perhaps even overturned.

"That might happen,'' said one league source. "Who knows where this goes with an arbitrator involved? There might have to be some ground given. But it really doesn't seem to be (NFL commissioner) Roger Goodell's style to change his mind to any great degree when it comes to his decisions.''

I love that there are owners less confident then Mara. I also love the fact they belive it might get over turned. The last line is even more funnier... Goodell style to change his mind to any great degree when it comes to his decisions..... I guess the writer forgot by the end of his article that Goodell has no authority at this point or decisions to make. By lumping the NFLPA in the arguement the two teams took Goodell out of the equation. So if there is a decision to reverse the punishment Goodell won't have any control over it.

[tryfuhl]

Funny how nearly everyone sides with the players in the cba talks. Now they want to blame the owners that DID give that money to players. And they call us greedy... yet several teams spent well under the previous floor. And Snyder once again hasn't raised ticket prices. Greedy?

[SFREDSKIN]

I hope Mara gets anally raped without lube for this bullshit!!! Skins get all their cash back and compensatory picks, this is war.

[Dirtbag59]

Mara calling the Redskins and the Cowboys cheaters in this incident is the pot calling the kettle black. I mean we've gone over it a million times but theres a list of something like 9 teams that used the uncapped year to "create a competitive advantage" and the only 2 teams that get actual salary cap sanctions are his division rivals.

Taking $46 million in cap space from your division rivals for violating a rule that technically didn't exist, thats pretty f'ing dirty. If anyones exploiting a loophole it's Mara using his position as head of the competition committee.

I personally can't wait until they overturn this in arbitration.