Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes

The Goat · 11-29-2012, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

First, you're assuming that a T drafted higher from a bigger school would be kicking ass right now...like say Bobby Massie

Second, your whole thing about "unless you truly follow college football" What is that? I mean you do realize the scouts' jobs are to "truly follow college football" and find the players from schools no one thinks about. Players like...Alfred Morris for example

Fletcher too...but whatever you're still wrong @$$&!*% mod

SmootSmack · 11-29-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Do you think there's another position on offense we can upgrade at a higher margin than RT? (no sarcasm here, just honestly asking)

And what about defensive position vs rt? I only come up with two assuming one of Merriwether/Jackson starts along with one of Wilson/Hall. Speaking of Hall are you still convinced he's gone after this season? Someone quoted him as saying he wants to restructure to finish his career with us, at least I though I read it.

I think an argument could be made for DB, but I haven't really paid much attention yet to what's available and yeah I think he's gone. Just my opinion though

REDSKINS4ever · 11-29-2012, 07:02 AM

I would say Josh Wilson may be the one gone. DeAngelo may have his contract restructured. Both he and Wilson have given up massive pass plays on defense yardage wise. But if either of them remained, I would say it would be Hall. Josh Wilson will be like Chris Dishman was. Here today gone tomorrow.

JoeRedskin · 11-29-2012, 08:55 AM

Right now, I am okay with our CB's. If we lose Hall, then we need to have someone who can step into a starting role on the corner - that simply has to be the No. 1 offseason priority. I am not sure that such a person exist on the roster.

I am fine with Wilson and C. Griffin as CB2 and CB3. To me, Wilson is solid and an acceptable starting corner but only with strong safety support - which we don't have w/out Merriweather. (Not thinking Jackson is coming back - just my guess. I think he let MS down and that MS does NOT like to be let down).

After a new CB and possibly safety, then do we worry about the RT spot. Polumbus is, at best, a back up, but RT is one of those positions that you can cover for both by blocking scheme and through offensive design. As many have consistently said, a single weak link in the O-Line can be protected much easier than several gaping holes at in the back end of the defense.

It would be great if Bernstien comes back and plays well enough to start, just not sure that is likely to happen or something MS should rely on. Crawford looks to be a nice add but not starting material and at best a nickel corner, more likely the dime guy. Maybe in time these two can step up - but I think they may just be K. Barnes, Byron Westbrook redux.

CRedskinsRule · 11-29-2012, 10:03 AM

I would like to see the kind of competition at S that we have seen at RB and WR over the Shanallen years. Every off season, we bring in old & young RB's and WR's, and they duel it out in a best man win style.

We should be doing that with Safeties as well, but instead it feels like they get a guy, who is the guy, only he's not the guy they thought he was, so now we have no guy, and our defense ranks nowhere near our offense, where we have a guy who proved he was the guy by beating out the other guys who weren't that guy.

make sense guys?
:cheeky-sm

SmootSmack · 11-29-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would like to see the kind of competition at S that we have seen at RB and WR over the Shanallen years. Every off season, we bring in old & young RB's and WR's, and they duel it out in a best man win style.

We should be doing that with Safeties as well, but instead it feels like they get a guy, who is the guy, only he's not the guy they thought he was, so now we have no guy, and our defense ranks nowhere near our offense, where we have a guy who proved he was the guy by beating out the other guys who weren't that guy.

make sense guys?
:cheeky-sm

Strong post

53Fan · 11-29-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would like to see the kind of competition at S that we have seen at RB and WR over the Shanallen years. Every off season, we bring in old & young RB's and WR's, and they duel it out in a best man win style.

We should be doing that with Safeties as well, but instead it feels like they get a guy, who is the guy, only he's not the guy they thought he was, so now we have no guy, and our defense ranks nowhere near our offense, where we have a guy who proved he was the guy by beating out the other guys who weren't that guy.

make sense guys?)
:cheeky-sm

Get ahold of yourself man!!!

Makes perfect sense.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-30-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would like to see the kind of competition at S that we have seen at RB and WR over the Shanallen years. Every off season, we bring in old & young RB's and WR's, and they duel it out in a best man win style.

We should be doing that with Safeties as well, but instead it feels like they get a guy, who is the guy, only he's not the guy they thought he was, so now we have no guy, and our defense ranks nowhere near our offense, where we have a guy who proved he was the guy by beating out the other guys who weren't that guy.

make sense guys?
:cheeky-sm

I know what you mean!

That Guy · 11-30-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Right now, I am okay with our CB's. If we lose Hall, then we need to have someone who can step into a starting role on the corner - that simply has to be the No. 1 offseason priority. I am not sure that such a person exist on the roster.

I am fine with Wilson and C. Griffin as CB2 and CB3. To me, Wilson is solid and an acceptable starting corner but only with strong safety support - which we don't have w/out Merriweather. (Not thinking Jackson is coming back - just my guess. I think he let MS down and that MS does NOT like to be let down).

After a new CB and possibly safety, then do we worry about the RT spot. Polumbus is, at best, a back up, but RT is one of those positions that you can cover for both by blocking scheme and through offensive design. As many have consistently said, a single weak link in the O-Line can be protected much easier than several gaping holes at in the back end of the defense.

It would be great if Bernstien comes back and plays well enough to start, just not sure that is likely to happen or something MS should rely on. Crawford looks to be a nice add but not starting material and at best a nickel corner, more likely the dime guy. Maybe in time these two can step up - but I think they may just be K. Barnes, Byron Westbrook redux.

need a TE too. paulsen isn't good enough. we don't NEED fred davis, but we need someone in between the two at least.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-30-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

need a TE too. paulsen isn't good enough. we don't NEED fred davis, but we need someone in between the two at least.

We DO need Fred Davis. And Paulsen is starting because the coaches feel he's earn it. He's not your typical TE, but he does a pretty good job. I don't see the Redskins drafting a TE. At least not until the later rounds. Niles Paul could develop into a solid TE.

SmootSmack · 11-30-2012, 08:49 AM

I think he meant we don't need another Fred Davis

Chico23231 · 11-30-2012, 09:36 AM

Pauleson been fine this year, in fact exceed expectations. Bring back Fred and continue to develop Niles (great special teamer), we will be fine.

los panda · 11-30-2012, 01:06 PM

davis is a rock solid #1
paulsen is a good backup
and paul, well, he's a great special teamer

te is not a need. lock up davis

Evilgrin · 11-30-2012, 01:20 PM

Pretty sure Griff likes Davis, thats a big factor now.

12thMan · 11-30-2012, 01:25 PM

Paulsen has earned his keeps and then some. Good back-up, mostly reliable.

11-29-2012, 07:02 AM	#228
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,105	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes I would say Josh Wilson may be the one gone. DeAngelo may have his contract restructured. Both he and Wilson have given up massive pass plays on defense yardage wise. But if either of them remained, I would say it would be Hall. Josh Wilson will be like Chris Dishman was. Here today gone tomorrow.

11-29-2012, 08:55 AM	#229
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Right now, I am okay with our CB's. If we lose Hall, then we need to have someone who can step into a starting role on the corner - that simply has to be the No. 1 offseason priority. I am not sure that such a person exist on the roster. I am fine with Wilson and C. Griffin as CB2 and CB3. To me, Wilson is solid and an acceptable starting corner but only with strong safety support - which we don't have w/out Merriweather. (Not thinking Jackson is coming back - just my guess. I think he let MS down and that MS does NOT like to be let down). After a new CB and possibly safety, then do we worry about the RT spot. Polumbus is, at best, a back up, but RT is one of those positions that you can cover for both by blocking scheme and through offensive design. As many have consistently said, a single weak link in the O-Line can be protected much easier than several gaping holes at in the back end of the defense. It would be great if Bernstien comes back and plays well enough to start, just not sure that is likely to happen or something MS should rely on. Crawford looks to be a nice add but not starting material and at best a nickel corner, more likely the dime guy. Maybe in time these two can step up - but I think they may just be K. Barnes, Byron Westbrook redux. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

11-29-2012, 10:03 AM	#230
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,456	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes I would like to see the kind of competition at S that we have seen at RB and WR over the Shanallen years. Every off season, we bring in old & young RB's and WR's, and they duel it out in a best man win style. We should be doing that with Safeties as well, but instead it feels like they get a guy, who is the guy, only he's not the guy they thought he was, so now we have no guy, and our defense ranks nowhere near our offense, where we have a guy who proved he was the guy by beating out the other guys who weren't that guy. make sense guys? :cheeky-sm

11-30-2012, 08:49 AM	#236
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes I think he meant we don't need another Fred Davis __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-30-2012, 09:36 AM	#237
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,635	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Pauleson been fine this year, in fact exceed expectations. Bring back Fred and continue to develop Niles (great special teamer), we will be fine. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

11-30-2012, 01:06 PM	#238
los panda Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,230	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes davis is a rock solid #1 paulsen is a good backup and paul, well, he's a great special teamer te is not a need. lock up davis __________________ 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 81

11-30-2012, 01:20 PM	#239
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Pretty sure Griff likes Davis, thats a big factor now.

11-30-2012, 01:25 PM	#240
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes Paulsen has earned his keeps and then some. Good back-up, mostly reliable.

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