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Old 01-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #226
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I couldn't help but think about Theismann's injury when I saw Robert's knee buckle. Just heart wrenching.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #227
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If I'm Snyder, I have Mike Shanahan and Dr. Andrews in my office first thing this morning. I then remove all "health related" playing decisions away from Shanahan and put the onus on my team doctor. Dr. Andrews is being paid by the team to do a job, and it appears to me either he's not doing his job, or Shanahan is overriding it.

To clear this up, and to protect the franchise's most valuable asset, you remove that decision from Mike. This isn't overreacting. I thought about this last night, and wanted to sleep on it before saying this. I woke up feeling the same today as I did last night. Did they not look at RGIII after that roll-out when he hurt himself again? Is our medical team that incompetent or is our coach that stubborn?

Mike appears not competent enough to judge when to pull a player due to health issues, so simply take that away from him and leave the X's and O's.

It's either one of two things. Bad coaching decision or bad medical staff. The only way you find out is remove the choice from the coach and it continues, you know to replace your medical staff.
i completely agree with your post. i feel this should have bene done a few seasons ago. there is absolutly no reason a coach or player should have the final call on them playing. there are far too many factors that could cloud their judgement. hopefully this is something that can be addressed this offseason. if you are going to pay the best doctor in the country to be on your sidelines for games, why not take his advice and run with it??

anyone hear anything else on griff's knee? i know someone with the redskins, it's not a great source, but it's a source and they heard that its an acl? anyone know when the results will be announced?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:25 PM   #228
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I couldn't help but think about Theismann's injury when I saw Robert's knee buckle. Just heart wrenching.
I watched the Theisman game. Trust me, this is nothing like what happened that night. Not even close. RG will be back.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:44 PM   #229
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I watched the Theisman game. Trust me, this is nothing like what happened that night. Not even close. RG will be back.
I saw it too. Remember the game vividly. The images of it being a home game, nationally televised, and yes, the knee (Theismann's was a compound fracture) visibly buckling stirred those same images of what happened to Theismann. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:48 PM   #230
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Coming in from the West Coast! Glad to be here!
First post and just joined this forum.
I cannot help but think that this was a magical season!
NFC East Champs, Sweep Dallas, Knock off Giants!
I, along with the rest of Redskin nation held my breath when Griff went down. After watching it a few times, (my medical experience goes about as far as bandaging up my kids' boo boo's) I think Griffin will be fine.
I get tired of hearing Radio sports talk hosts talk about all the Negative (remember, I'm on the west coast so I hear all neg. about it.)
The progression of this team was far better than my expectation.
Looking forward to the next season.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:49 PM   #231
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If I'm Snyder, I have Mike Shanahan and Dr. Andrews in my office first thing this morning. I then remove all "health related" playing decisions away from Shanahan and put the onus on my team doctor. Dr. Andrews is being paid by the team to do a job, and it appears to me either he's not doing his job, or Shanahan is overriding it.

To clear this up, and to protect the franchise's most valuable asset, you remove that decision from Mike. This isn't overreacting. I thought about this last night, and wanted to sleep on it before saying this. I woke up feeling the same today as I did last night. Did they not look at RGIII after that roll-out when he hurt himself again? Is our medical team that incompetent or is our coach that stubborn?

Mike appears not competent enough to judge when to pull a player due to health issues, so simply take that away from him and leave the X's and O's.

It's either one of two things. Bad coaching decision or bad medical staff. The only way you find out is remove the choice from the coach and it continues, you know to replace your medical staff.
I think everyone needs to calm down on this knee thing. It's a big deal cause we lost and he played poorly. It wasn't a big deal against Dallas, was it? A hurt RG3 was good enough to beat a lot of the teams during part of the win streak. It wasn't good enough to beat Seattle.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:53 PM   #232
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If I'm Snyder, I have Mike Shanahan and Dr. Andrews in my office first thing this morning. I then remove all "health related" playing decisions away from Shanahan and put the onus on my team doctor. Dr. Andrews is being paid by the team to do a job, and it appears to me either he's not doing his job, or Shanahan is overriding it.

To clear this up, and to protect the franchise's most valuable asset, you remove that decision from Mike. This isn't overreacting. I thought about this last night, and wanted to sleep on it before saying this. I woke up feeling the same today as I did last night. Did they not look at RGIII after that roll-out when he hurt himself again? Is our medical team that incompetent or is our coach that stubborn?

Mike appears not competent enough to judge when to pull a player due to health issues, so simply take that away from him and leave the X's and O's.

It's either one of two things. Bad coaching decision or bad medical staff. The only way you find out is remove the choice from the coach and it continues, you know to replace your medical staff.
You literally slept on a post you wanted to post here and what the Skins need to do about RGIII's health. WOW! You live a charmed life I wish my only worries in life were a NFL football team and what to post on here.
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Coming in from the West Coast! Glad to be here!
First post and just joined this forum.
I cannot help but think that this was a magical season!
NFC East Champs, Sweep Dallas, Knock off Giants!
I, along with the rest of Redskin nation held my breath when Griff went down. After watching it a few times, (my medical experience goes about as far as bandaging up my kids' boo boo's) I think Griffin will be fine.
I get tired of hearing Radio sports talk hosts talk about all the Negative (remember, I'm on the west coast so I hear all neg. about it.)
The progression of this team was far better than my expectation.
Looking forward to the next season.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:01 PM   #234
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I think everyone needs to calm down on this knee thing. It's a big deal cause we lost and he played poorly. It wasn't a big deal against Dallas, was it? A hurt RG3 was good enough to beat a lot of the teams during part of the win streak. It wasn't good enough to beat Seattle.
I dont think you can compare the 2.Dallas game RG3 was probably at 80%
After the rollout at the goalline where he reagravated it,he was around 35% and shouldnt have been in the game
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:02 PM   #236
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I think everyone needs to calm down on this knee thing. It's a big deal cause we lost and he played poorly. It wasn't a big deal against Dallas, was it? A hurt RG3 was good enough to beat a lot of the teams during part of the win streak. It wasn't good enough to beat Seattle.
He wasn't a hurt RG3in this game, he was a re-injured RG3, and it showed. Shanahan should have recognized it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:07 PM   #237
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I sat in the corner yesterday in the dream seats on the end zone where we scored both of our touchdowns. My takes from the game were:

-Pulling RGIII is a decision that will be graded by the win or loss. Shanny pulls Griff and we hold on for the win, he's a genius. We lose after taking him out up 14 points and he'd be slaughtered. So I really believe there is no right answer with that decision.

-The seahawks defense is the most degenerate dirty unit I have ever seen. After the second touchdown, stepping on Griffin's foot was pitiful. They're cheaters both on and off the field, and I went from a huge fan of that team to a large enemy.

-Not having Orakpo hurt us more yesterday than most days. After the first quarter, we stopped getting to Wilson, and another big athletic OLB putting some pressure on him would have been helpful.

-Wasnt very pleased by the game plan. Too many cute throws, and too many passes on first down were not good decisions, especially when your quarterback is clearly far from his normal self. Needed more ground and pound outta AlfMo.

-Overall, I am beyond pleased with this season. I said going in that we were somewhere between 7-9 wins this season and we went above that. This team is young, talented, and full of heart. Cant wait until training camp!
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:14 PM   #238
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You know what? 6 in one hand a half dozen in the other. If RG3 finished the game with the injury and had won, then Shanahan would be applauded this morning for making such a gutsy call.

If the doctors said that he was physically unable to play, I find it very very unlikely that Shanahan would have ignored that.
LOL. I love how you come in here and make a good point, and everyone ignores it in favor of attacking you for showing up the day after your opponent's playoff loss. Just bad timing for you man.

S/N I agree with your points.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:24 PM   #239
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Too much bashing of the decision to play him.

While Griffin did not look 100% against Dallas last week, he still played well and led us to a big victory. After another week, who actually predicted his knee would be worse? 4 weeks after the injury that we were told would take 2 weeks to heal, it should have been better, right?

When the game started, he did look about the same as in the Dallas game, but I didn't see the injury coming. When we went up 14-0, it looked like a great decision to play RGIII. In fact, because of the Dallas game, the thought of benching him didn't even cross my mind. Another week removed from the initial injury, I expected him to be even better than last week, possibly near 100% except for any hindrance from the bulky brace.

Seattle did play dirty. They seemed intent on cheap shots, late hits and injuring RGIII. They succeeded.

You're a liar if you saw this coming. He not only survived the Dallas game last week, he led us to victory.

Unfortunate ending to an amazing season, but I do not blame the , doctor, coach or the player for this injury. He looked ready to play and the first quarter just solidified that. He was our best chance to win. We had a lead after 3 quarters and couldn't stop Lynch when it mattered most.

Great season. Heal up and do it all over again, Robert.
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Too much bashing of the decision to play him.

While Griffin did not look 100% against Dallas last week, he still played well and led us to a big victory. After another week, who actually predicted his knee would be worse? 4 weeks after the injury that we were told would take 2 weeks to heal, it should have been better, right?

When the game started, he did look about the same as in the Dallas game, but I didn't see the injury coming. When we went up 14-0, it looked like a great decision to play RGIII. In fact, because of the Dallas game, the thought of benching him didn't even cross my mind. After week removed from the initial injury, I expected him to be even better than last week, possibly near 100% except for any hindrance from the bulky brace.

Seattle did play dirty. They seemed intent on cheap shots, late hits and injuring RGIII. They succeeded.

You're a liar if you saw this coming. He not only survived the Dallas game last week, he led us to victory.

Unfortunate ending to an amazing season, but I do not blame the , doctor, coach or the player for this injury. He looked ready to play and the first quarter just solidified that. He was our best chance to win. We had a lead after 3 quarters and couldn't stop Lynch when it mattered most.

Great season. Heal up and do it all over again, Robert.
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