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View Poll Results: Your initial 2013 draft grade for the Skins: | |||
A | 24 | 17.78% | |
B | 93 | 68.89% | |
C | 15 | 11.11% | |
D | 1 | 0.74% | |
F | 2 | 1.48% | |
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05-02-2013, 01:23 PM | #226 |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
You don't have to have glaring needs to add players to your football team. Look at Seattle signing Winfield, look at Denver adding Welker. I would not be surprised at all if the TE or one of the RB's we took turns into the best player for us from this draft. Just because we don't need big bodies right now doesn't mean we shouldn't draft them. On the contrary. We should draft them every year without fail.
The areas that I would have addressed this offseason were OL, DL, LB and DB. We got some DB's, lost Lorenzo Alexander and added one, yes that's one, linebacker in the draft. Pretty much every team in the league added players to their front sevens and offensive lines and we stood pat. In my eyes, that's a problem. It's not what I would have done with limited resources. My plan would have been to focus on winning the trenches now that we have a QB. I would have been fine with it if we added more linebackers than we did. Any offseason that sees no depth or talent added to OL, DL and LB is a failure in my book. The draft contributed to that. Yeah, we added some nice players too. And we needed those DB's badly. So it's a C, not a D or an F. |
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05-02-2013, 01:27 PM | #227 | |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
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We have signed lineman on both sides as well as linebackers. And we drafted a LB. |
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05-02-2013, 01:31 PM | #228 | |
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That's Amos Frederick. Quote:
Ha...that's him? Good job, Jerry.
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05-02-2013, 01:36 PM | #229 |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
Unless the coaches know somebody is ready to step up, hope we address right tackle in free agency. Hopefully not an old or expensive guy ( fat chance right?).
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05-02-2013, 01:55 PM | #230 | |
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If you look at how he built the team, his plan addressed Oline and DLine first, now he is filling in the rest. Gotta remember how bad we were from a talent standpoint when he took over the team. Dline is the first area he really went after. I also believe Shanny stuck by his best player available mantra this draft. Rambo, Reed, Jenkins, Thomas picks I think prove that. Who did you like/or rather have taken?
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05-02-2013, 01:59 PM | #231 | |
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In 2010-2013 the NYG drafted 11 Linemen(5OL, 6DL), the Skins took 10(6 OL, 4, DL). Source is www.pro-footballreference.com . I don't know that one team has emphasized it more than the other. Now we have been substantially more uneven in the round drafted, but that is a matter of how we have generally been moving back to regain picks in the early years. NYG Lineman per round: 2 - 1st, 2 - 2nd, 1 ea, 3, 4, 5, 2 - 6th, 2 - 7th. Skins Lnemen per round: 2 - 1st, 1 - 3rd, 2 -5th, 2 - 6th, 4 - 7th. Oh and NE, 7 in those 3 years, 4 of those in the 7th round, 1 - 1st, 3rd, and 6th |
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05-02-2013, 02:06 PM | #232 |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
PS pro-footballreference has a great search tool that lets you slice and dice drafts of a team. Basically, I put in "all linemen", but you can do individual positions, or schools, or conferences or mix and match. Pretty nice.
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05-02-2013, 02:14 PM | #233 |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
For comparison purposes, here's what our draft would have looked like if we had taken purely the highest rated non-QB on my board at every pick, no regard for need:
2 (51) - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal 3 (85) - Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia 4 (119) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama 5 (154) - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State 5 (162) - Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson 6 (191) - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State* 7 (228) - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State* *Obviously these guys are only still available b/c we're redrafting the Redskins. Cierre Wood, RB, ND and Tony Jefferson, S, OU were my top undrafted players. I guess the takeaways is that there was no way to get OL at good value, although there were DL to be had at good value (and we arguably got one of the best values there). And we were going to get DBs anyway. The draft was too deep in the secondary to not get DBs at BPA type value.
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05-02-2013, 02:28 PM | #234 | |
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05-02-2013, 02:46 PM | #235 |
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Which is why I gave you the next two up.
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05-02-2013, 02:50 PM | #236 |
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who are the next two up, because you're still not making sense
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05-02-2013, 05:05 PM | #237 | |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
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The game has evolved, unfortunately quite a few fans haven't evolved with it
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05-02-2013, 05:25 PM | #238 |
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Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
we all know the whole point of zone blocking is that it let's you go cheap on the OL right? you take small faster guys that other teams pass over, giving you higher talent in lower rounds (than average) without needing to use high picks or big money on a ton of OL guys.
the 3-4 let's you shift the expense (picks and money) of your DE's onto your pass rushing OLBs instead (though they're harder to find, DEs make more per sack than OLBs in general, so 3-4 pass rushing OLBs end up at around what a 4-3 DEs would cost due to rarity). we've got the people for our systems now. our RT sucks, but everyone else is fine. last year we had some bad injuries on the pass rushing front, but we signed merling, tapp, and drafted a guy to help with that rotation (and a bunch of OL guys). we didn't have much in the way of money to sign guys, and we had more pressing issues in the draft. I don't think a 3rd round OT or 7th round OG would have helped us any. the OLB and rambo were picked WAY below value, so you can't swap those out. thomas was below value too, as was the TE we got (which is the only pick that really could have been spent differently. Maybe amerson wasn't the DB of choice, but all the good corners were going to be gone by our pick in round 3, so it was a now or never choice). |
05-02-2013, 05:28 PM | #239 |
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oh yeah, we signed the best UDFA OT as well. it's not like we didn't do anything. we actually got a lot of bodies with what we had to work with.
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05-02-2013, 05:31 PM | #240 |
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ehh, yeah the game has evolved for sure. Still gotta control that line of scrimmage.
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