Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”


– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

OK, I've made up my mind. He gets my vote because that's effing hilarious!

[dmek25]

this is the same McCain that's saying kids are off limits? what a joke. and schneed, im with you. i want to know policies, and where these men stand. but i also point out when the going gets tough, all rules go out the window. especially if the race stays close. and thanks for the link, matty

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

It's actually a more true conservative bent. Gov't = stay out of our lives...no taxes and don't tell me how tolive. I think we roll closely also. I vote mainly on who has the best cahnce not to do something insanely bad. Like raise taxes on anyone.

I guess it's not an uncommon set of views after all!

My buddy used to say he liked to pick his presidential candidate, and then if that candidate was republican he'd vote for democrats when it came to the house and senate. And vice versa if he liked the democratic president.

His reasoning was that gridlock was the best thing possible for our government, because then nobody can do anything stupid.

Not a bad theory!

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is the same McCain that's saying kids are off limits? what a joke. and schneed, im with you. i want to know policies, and where these men stand. but i also point out when the going gets tough, all rules go out the window. especially if the race stays close. and thanks for the link, matty

Except that isn't Obama the one saying family and stuff is off limits?

I don't think his campaign intends to attack Palin's daughter. Nobody cares if we do it on a message board somewhere, so go nuts. But it's different if a campaign actually goes there.

Obama doesn't want to go there, which is admirable. I wouldn't either, if I were him. More importantly though, I think Obama would hurt himself politically if he did, no question. Even if the race stays close, I don't see Obama and his campaign going there.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I guess it's not an uncommon set of views after all!

My buddy used to say he liked to pick his presidential candidate, and then if that candidate was republican he'd vote for democrats when it came to the house and senate. And vice versa if he liked the democratic president.

His reasoning was that gridlock was the best thing possible for our government, because then nobody can do anything stupid.

Not a bad theory!

My theory is that all this comprmising is bad. Usually on an issue one side has the right basic premise and one side has the wrong one. When we combine those two the solution evolves to lowest common denominator and it sucks.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess that Obama's pick was one of politics and just more of the same as we have gotten from Biden and his spending for years. It seems that the dems are scared of McCains pick and the lack of Obamas movment in the polls behind thier convention. Even Kerry had a 7% jump in the polls after his convention and Obama's didn't move at all. We still hear his call for change but see the same old Biden as his VP.

fox news reporting Obama at 50% for the first time. and if Obama had picked some no one, everyone would be screaming about the lack of experience. and i think we all would agree that Joe Biden is a tad bit more qualified to run the country, then Mrs Palin

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

My theory is that all this comprmising is bad. Usually on an issue one side has the right basic premise and one side has the wrong one. When we combine those two the solution evolves to lowest common denominator and it sucks.

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Holy crap, so she wasn't married. I always thought that teaching abstinence alone was bull shit. I'll be the first to admit that I have some weird political views. I agree with the conseratives on defense and the economy. However on the social issues I'm definately more liberal including marajuanna legalization (even though I don't smoke), stem cell research (an issue that McCain supports), gay marriage (even though I'm not gay), and the banning of ID from class rooms. I still don't know what to think about abortion though right now I'm barely pro-life (51-49). However at the same time I am appaled about how conseratives want to restrict distribution of the morning after pill.

I mean a fetus reportedly feeling pain and crying during an abortion is apalling however preventing conception the day after (or minutes after if you're prepared) is a totally different story and just because some religous nutjobs are using the Bible to reconcile their beliefs doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer in a country who's social views presumeably range mainly from moderate Judeo-Christian to secular humanist (a nicer way of saying atheist or agnostic). In fact I get chills everytime I see the John McCain, Judeo-Christian speech. I wondered if he's that desperate votes or if he's really that nieve when it comes to the history of his own country.

Another funny thing I find about the Republicans and McCain is they want to stop Gay Marriage, yet their most feasable alternative to abortion, adoption, isn't helped by the fact that many foster kids (as many as 100,000 in the US) can't find a home.

Anyway back to my main point. If I read right according to a UN report the United States has some of the highest rates of teen pregnacy and abortions among first world countries especially when compared to most of Western Europe. The abstinence thing is not working and restricting access to contreception and proper sex education isn't helping.

I know some people will find issue with my post and I'm more then willing to debate so long as it doesn't lead to you calling me an idiot for no good reason or typing in all caps. And to think I use to be apathetic those were the days.

i think that's pretty common for views, at least in NoVA... it's closest party affiliation would be libertarian. We're pretty close on view too, so, uh... me four.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by firstdown

That is a down right lie about McCain and you cannot find any quotes from McCain saying that about Chelsea.

Ok, I have to admitt that Saden was correct and McCain did make a tastless but funny joke about Chelsea.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

fox news reporting Obama at 50% for the first time. and if Obama had picked some no one, everyone would be screaming about the lack of experience. and i think we all would agree that Joe Biden is a tad bit more qualified to run the country, then Mrs Palin

Yea but while Biden is expanding goverment Palin has been cutting the size of goverment.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

OK, I'll do it. I'm sure we can hook the Danny up with something and get a Suite at the 40-50 yardline. The only gotcha is I must approve all WH intern hirings. I envision the WH under our watch to be similar to the Stark Enterprises plane on the way to Afghanistan.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

If I must, I must. I am pretty much in the same political boat as the rest of you. Just don't tell my family.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yea but while Biden is expanding goverment Palin has been cutting the size of goverment.

She sure hasn't been shy about securing earmarks for Alaska...something that McCain continuously rails against. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/wash...=1&oref=slogin

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

She sure hasn't been shy about securing earmarks for Alaska...something that McCain continuously rails against. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/wash...=1&oref=slogin

Well that article was pretty vegue about weather Palin was pushing the earmarks (pork) or if it was from other in Alaska. They did mention one small one at the end of the article and this is also the NY Times.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well that article was pretty vegue about weather Palin was pushing the earmarks (pork) or if it was from other in Alaska. They did mention one small one at the end of the article and this is also the NY Times.

It's an AP article actually but that's not important. I don't have a problem with a governor securing stuff for her state - that's what good governor's do. I just think you are naive to suggest she is some sort of crusading budgetary reformer. Here is another article talking about her extensive lobbying for earmarks when mayor of Wasilla Alaska...then again, this article is actually from the New York times, and we know that they hate America. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/us...armarks&st=cse

Edit: this is actually the article I was thinking of, from the WP washingtonpost.com