New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You're still just totally missing it. Yeah, Sean Taylor was a headhunter. It was his style long before he ever met GW. And I loved Sean. But he wasn't crushing guys just because GW told him to. He would have been out there doing that regardless of the coach, and the league would just be throwing flags and docking paychecks.

Coaching up and managing hotheaded players is a basic job duty of NFL coaches. Telling players you're gonna give them extra cash to purposely look to get a guy carted off the field is on a totally different level, and contradicts so much of what's good about the game of football.

As to your point in bold, GW is in the wrong, and you're cool with coaches breaking the rules. Gotcha.

And neither were the other guys. They're going to try and get a kill shot where there's extra insentive or not. They're not any different from Taylor, only they weren't as talented as Sean was. Any NFL safety or defesnsive player wants to get a hard hit and knock a guy out. If he gets extra cash in front of his teammates as a reward then so be it. No one is trying to end anyone's career. I don't see any Jack Tatum's out there.

GW should be punished cause he was told to stop and he didn't. I already said that.

[SmootSmack]

Just realized Steve Spagnuolo is the new defensive coordinator in New Orleans. Wonder if he'd become interim head coach.

[SmootSmack]

At the end of the day, I think the salary cap violations may be a bigger factor in determining the penalty than the "intent to harm" (that's much harder to really prove)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

At the end of the day, I think the salary cap violations may be a bigger factor in determining the penalty than the "intent to harm" (that's much harder to really prove)

I think this is what people don't seem to get. Everyone will have different opinion on the whole "intent to harm" issue, but the involvement of money makes it a big deal period. Hell, we almost had no NFL season because of money.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Look I can see there is no convincing you so I'm going to stop. I have my opinion, you have your own. It doesn't mean sh*t what we think, in the end this is in the hands of the NFL, the teams, the owners, and the players. Bottom line what happened is wrong, the NFL is changing, and we as fans have to deal with that.

There are things from the "good ol' days" that are good and some are bad (like many things in life). In the end, this is "wrong enough" that Williams, the Saints, and players are going to lose money over it and have their careers affected by it.

Fair. But you still wouldn't answer the question, which is fine. I respect your opinion.

I just think that it was ok when Taylor was trying to destroy other teams players... and make NO MISTAKE about it... when he was hitting someone, he was doing it with the intent to HURT the opposing player. Not end a career, but take him out a few plays or whatever. And WE ALL cheered when he did it and that's what we loved him for, his intimidating ruthless style. He probbaly got extra cash for it. But when a Saints player does it, he's doing it with the intent to end a career. I think we have some hypocrites here.

[MTK]

I have a problem with anyone getting extra cash for big hits or for knocking someone out of a game, regardless of uniform.

[T.O.Killa]

Nfl network is reporting that Williams has a meeting today with the NFL in New York to talk about Buffalo and Washington.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Nfl network is reporting that Williams has a meeting today with the NFL in New York to talk to Greg Williams about Buffalo and Washington.

Who's the first Williams?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

Who's the first Williams?

Gregg Williams has called a conference with himself. Duh.

[Alvin Walton]

He may be having a conference with the unemployment office too.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Gregg Williams has called a conference with himself. Duh.

Good Gregg: I knew we should've stopped the program earlier! I told you it was a bad idea!



Bad Gregg:

Shutup! They're all suckers, everybody's doing it anyways!

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

He may be having a conference with the unemployment office too.

Luckily for him food stamps are at an all time high in our country!

[firstdown]

I bet ST did pretty good under this system.

[Ruhskins]

I wonder if the meeting between Williams and the NFL will play out like the final scene in "A Few Good Men"...

Jeff Pash: Coach Williams, did you order the Code Red?
G. Williams: I did the job I...
Jeff Pash: Did you order the Code Red?!
G. Williams: You're Goddamn right I did!!!

[Alvin Walton]

Son, we live in a world that needs wins. And those wins have to be guarded by men who hand out pain. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Tony Dungy? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Farve and you curse the DCs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Farves concussion, while tragic, probably provided wins. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves wins...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want those wins. You need me on that sideline.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent producing wins. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of wins I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick you pick up some pads and get on the field. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!