Pro-gun article

[CRedskinsRule]

here's the link for that last statistic

CDC Reports

don't let on that it's drowning, just for fun

[RedskinRat]

CRedskinsRule, you put up a link for drowning.

• Males: Nearly 80% of people who die from drowning are male.2
• Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.1,2 Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.2 Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).1 Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.1
• Minorities: Between 2005 and 2009, the fatal unintentional drowning rate for African Americans was significantly higher than that of whites across all ages.2 The disparity is widest among children 5-14 years old. The fatal drowning rate of African American children ages 5 to 14 is almost three times that of white children in the same age range.2

From the article GiantOne posted, as it substantiates what I've been saying:

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds".

And from another CDC report:

Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

So I'd hazard a guess that whilst it's a tragedy that 800 kids die, possibly because of their parents' blase attitude to gun safety, it's far from the 3,000 figure and a long way off the 10,000 that's used to scare the uninformed pearl-clutchers.

Research shows that storing guns locked and unloaded reduces the risk of both injuries and suicide by about 70%, according to a 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

CRedskinsRule, you put up a link for drowning.

• Males: Nearly 80% of people who die from drowning are male.2
• Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.1,2 Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.2 Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).1 Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.1
• Minorities: Between 2005 and 2009, the fatal unintentional drowning rate for African Americans was significantly higher than that of whites across all ages.2 The disparity is widest among children 5-14 years old. The fatal drowning rate of African American children ages 5 to 14 is almost three times that of white children in the same age range.2

From the article GiantOne posted, as it substantiates what I've been saying:

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds".

And from another CDC report:

Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

So I'd hazard a guess that whilst it's a tragedy that 800 kids die, possibly because of their parents' blase attitude to gun safety, it's far from the 3,000 figure and a long way off the 10,000 that's used to scare the uninformed pearl-clutchers.

Research shows that storing guns locked and unloaded reduces the risk of both injuries and suicide by about 70%, according to a 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

No rat what scares us is people like you who feel that the only way to stop kids dying .....is more guns .

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Giantone

No rat what scares us is people like you who feel that the only way to stop kids dying .....is more guns .

I have never said that more guns will stop kids dying. It's a stupid thing to say.

I'd like firearms courses taught in school, but I'd also like PT and life skills taught. I'll probably get a Unicorn before those things all happen.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

CRedskinsRule, you put up a link for drowning.

• Males: Nearly 80% of people who die from drowning are male.2
• Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.1,2 Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.2 Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).1 Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.1
• Minorities: Between 2005 and 2009, the fatal unintentional drowning rate for African Americans was significantly higher than that of whites across all ages.2 The disparity is widest among children 5-14 years old. The fatal drowning rate of African American children ages 5 to 14 is almost three times that of white children in the same age range.2

From the article GiantOne posted, as it substantiates what I've been saying:

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds".

And from another CDC report:

Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

So I'd hazard a guess that whilst it's a tragedy that 800 kids die, possibly because of their parents' blase attitude to gun safety, it's far from the 3,000 figure and a long way off the 10,000 that's used to scare the uninformed pearl-clutchers.

Research shows that storing guns locked and unloaded reduces the risk of both injuries and suicide by about 70%, according to a 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

I know it was drowning. I wanted to see if anyone would take the bait on how kids have to be protected. That's why I provided the link separately

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

CRedskinsRule, you put up a link for drowning.

• Males: Nearly 80% of people who die from drowning are male.2
• Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.1,2 Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.2 Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).1 Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.1
• Minorities: Between 2005 and 2009, the fatal unintentional drowning rate for African Americans was significantly higher than that of whites across all ages.2 The disparity is widest among children 5-14 years old. The fatal drowning rate of African American children ages 5 to 14 is almost three times that of white children in the same age range.2

From the article GiantOne posted, as it substantiates what I've been saying:

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds".

And from another CDC report:

Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

So I'd hazard a guess that whilst it's a tragedy that 800 kids die, possibly because of their parents' blase attitude to gun safety, it's far from the 3,000 figure and a long way off the 10,000 that's used to scare the uninformed pearl-clutchers.

Research shows that storing guns locked and unloaded reduces the risk of both injuries and suicide by about 70%, according to a 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

You're onto something. I'm not the best swimmer, I tend to sink because of my low bodyfat...but I can handle a pistol.

I am more afraid of deep water than firearms.


I need this t-shirt.

[RedskinRat]

I do have a habit of ruining everything.......

[Hog1]

Pearl Clutcher?????
YOU are the man.....!

[RedskinRat]

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Your numbers seem a bit off ....


Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does

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ASBURY PARK, N.J. — Most victims of gun violence in 2010 were not on a battlefield or remote hillside in the Middle East fighting in a war. They were, like 6-year-old Brandon Holt, children and teenagers in America, according to the Children's Defense Fund.
Brandon was shot in the head by his friend and neighbor, an unidentified 4-year-old boy, on Monday night. He is now also a statistic of gun violence.
STORY: Family donates N.J. boy's organs after shooting death
In 2010, 15,576 children and teenagers were injured by firearms — three times more than the number of U.S. soldiers injured in the war in Afghanistan, according to the defense fund.
Nationally, guns still kill twice as many children and young people than cancer, five times as many than heart disease and 15 times more than infection, according to the New England Journal of Medicine.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Your numbers seem a bit off ....

Originally Posted by Giantone

Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does

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ASBURY PARK, N.J. — Most victims of gun violence in 2010 were not on a battlefield or remote hillside in the Middle East fighting in a war. They were, like 6-year-old Brandon Holt, children and teenagers in America, according to the Children's Defense Fund.
Brandon was shot in the head by his friend and neighbor, an unidentified 4-year-old boy, on Monday night. He is now also a statistic of gun violence.
STORY: Family donates N.J. boy's organs after shooting death
In 2010, 15,576 children and teenagers were injured by firearms — three times more than the number of U.S. soldiers injured in the war in Afghanistan, according to the defense fund.
Nationally, guns still kill twice as many children and young people than cancer, five times as many than heart disease and 15 times more than infection, according to the New England Journal of Medicine.

Look again at the picture he put up, the numbers are not off. You are making a case about my point that the ant-gun crowd doesn't know much about guns. That 322 does not represent all gun deaths, look again and think about it. Hint, it is a specific classification of gun that all the Democrats that would
not know a 9MM pistol from a .177 Co2 pellet gun want banned.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

[B]

Look again at the picture he put up, the numbers are not off. You are making a case about my point that the ant-gun crowd doesn't know much about guns. That 322 does not represent all gun deaths, look again and think about it. Hint, it is a specific classification of gun that all the Democrats that would
not know a 9MM pistol from a .177 Co2 pellet gun want banned.

I see perfectly well ,the pro Gun Nuts need to pick and choose ,while the gun safety side is all inclusive .

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

[B]

Look again at the picture he put up, the numbers are not off. You are making a case about my point that the ant-gun crowd doesn't know much about guns. That 322 does not represent all gun deaths, look again and think about it. Hint, it is a specific classification of gun that all the Democrats that would
not know a 9MM pistol from a .177 Co2 pellet gun want banned.

So the hand represents deaths by what just the right hand ???BS .All the deaths were by claw hammers only ??? ah no .

[Buffalo Bob]

It is estimated 4.5 children a day died from child abuse and neglect in the USA. That is over 1600 a year. Yet assault rifles get all the bad press, they are way less dangerous than parents.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

It is estimated 4.5 children a day died from child abuse and neglect in the USA. That is over 1600 a year. Yet assault rifles get all the bad press, they are way less dangerous than parents.

So Bob you don't consider this abuse (grandparents in this case), huh?


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