How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Warthog

The trouble with this decision today to WIN NOW, is that so many pieces are missing on this team. Rivera didn’t really do anything in FA, except to try to get a top WR, who eventually went to Dallas. There were few other FA moves else except Fuller. Nothing in TE of significance. Nothing at WR except for Inman who is strictly a journeyman. Nothing big at the OL. So, Rivera was saving his cap money for next year.

I agree that he's reassessed the division after what is effectively a preseason period. Before we were looking at 2nd position at best, most probably 3rd or 4th. Now we're looking at 1st or 2nd if we can improve offensively. After the Ravens game he was left in the middle ground; do we try to go all out now that we have the opportunity, or do we treat this season as an extended preseason and set up the offseason to be able to compete next year.

Whether its a new perspective (cancer) or simply taking advantage of the opportunity presented, he's saying we might as well try and win now, than sit back and be spectators as the East implodes.

Agree on Haskins. He needs to show over the remainder of the season he's willing to work to be what his physical attributes give him the potential to be. I hope he turns it around, but I fear the damage is already done.

[AnonEmouse]

Thought; did Alex Smith getting injured ruin Haskins? OK, maybe a little stretch, but consider what was likely in the event Smith didn't get hurt:

Keenum likely wouldn't have been here.
Smith would most likely still be the starter with a view to Haskins taking over maybe next year.
Haskins would have had at least 2 seasons behind and being mentored by Smith.
Haskins would have seen a fraction of the scrutiny and criticism he's had in less than a full season of play.

Maybe he was already broken when he came here, but we'll never know that. Maybe the results would have been the same if he'd held the clipboard for 2 full seasons instead of 1/2 of one (so far). But maybe he'd have come in next year in a much better situation than last year?

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Thought; did Alex Smith getting injured ruin Haskins? OK, maybe a little stretch, but consider what was likely in the event Smith didn't get hurt:

Keenum likely wouldn't have been here.
Smith would most likely still be the starter with a view to Haskins taking over maybe next year.
Haskins would have had at least 2 seasons behind and being mentored by Smith.
Haskins would have seen a fraction of the scrutiny and criticism he's had in less than a full season of play.

Maybe he was already broken when he came here, but we'll never know that. Maybe the results would have been the same if he'd held the clipboard for 2 full seasons instead of 1/2 of one (so far). But maybe he'd have come in next year in a much better situation than last year?

If smith stayed in, maybe we don't get the 15th pick. He was our guy, based on his contract.
If ifs and whats were maybes and buts, we'd all be kings on candy mountain.

[skinsfaninok]

Baker went to a team that had lost 33 games out of 34 or some shit like that, he's been solid and looks like he's a legit starter.

Burrow = same situation, looks great so far.

Rosen = Same situation and sucks

Darnold = Just like Rosen, he's played poorly but not as bad as Rosen.

Haskins has had 11 games to show improvement and he hasn't.

[MTK]

Haskins had 11 starts under 3 different head coaches. That's tough.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Haskins had 11 starts under 3 different head coaches. That's tough.

It is for sure, Rosen hasn't had it any better though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ed-washington/

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by MTK

Haskins had 11 starts under 3 different head coaches. That's tough.

Yes, unlike Rosen who looked like a deer in the headlights from the off.

Rivera might see Haskins as a reclamation project that needs 1-2 seasons of training and something of a reality check. Or he sees him as a wasted pick and we'll know that next spring.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Yes, unlike Rosen who looked like a deer in the headlights from the off.

Rivera might see Haskins as a reclamation project that needs 1-2 seasons of training and something of a reality check. Or he sees him as a wasted pick and we'll know that next spring.

Given the leaks coming out I'm pretty sure Rivera is done with him

[Back2RFK]

Originally Posted by MTK

Haskins had 11 starts under 3 different head coaches. That's tough.

And if I'm correct only started 14 college games. He has little experience playing at a high level I'll give him time.

[MTK]

I know some will scoff given the author, but it's hard to argue against much here

Dwayne Haskins benching: With no Washington advocates, young QB caught in vortex of organizational failure

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

I know some will scoff given the author, but it's hard to argue against much here

Dwayne Haskins benching: With no Washington advocates, young QB caught in vortex of organizational failure

I agree with the jist of it, but I didn't even have to read the name to know it was some national writer with some petty horseshit grudge against us. I would have more respect for JLC if he would just do his job objectively without the bitterness he always has for DC.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

I know some will scoff given the author, but it's hard to argue against much here

Dwayne Haskins benching: With no Washington advocates, young QB caught in vortex of organizational failure

Good article. Its hard to argue with anything in it. I'm not sure any young QB could be successful in this cluster F of an organization.

I also agree with you that RR is done with Haskins. I'm still not sold on RR. He is essentially a .500 coach. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see RR here in 2024.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Rivera was basically hired as the GM and HC. I'm not holding him accountable for anything that happened before this year. He was brought in to restart this motherfucker. That always means some players are gonna be cut, etc. The situation is shitty by how it was handled with Gruden. No pretty way to handle it if he doesn't think Haskins is it. Let's see Allen this week and see if the offense looks way better.

Justin Fields > Trevor Lawrence

You heard it here 1st. I'm jumping back on the OSU horse.

[Chico23231]

Everything just seems like a shit show...first Haskins being chosen by the owner and NOT the football people in the org, then Jay handling of Haskins and now Ron telling me he wants to win now replacing Haskins but not a couple games ago where he didn’t use time outs to extend games.

Same ole shit

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Everything just seems like a shit show...first Haskins being chosen by the owner and NOT the football people in the org, then Jay handling of Haskins and now Ron telling me he wants to win now replacing Haskins but not a couple games ago where he didn’t use time outs to extend games.

Same ole shit

It sure is! If DH is being judged after his performance in 4 games I think RR can also be judged. He's also failing.