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Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

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View Poll Results: Is it time to bench Brunell?
Yes 141 61.84%
Give him another week 37 16.23%
Give him a few more weeks 35 15.35%
No 15 6.58%
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:02 PM   #256
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Re: Brunell Solely Responsible for Loss?

brunell is our biggest problem in my mind. yeah we're hurting in some others areas (DB) but it all starts there i think. the defense has played rather poorly but it'd be nice to give them some rest.

they actually started to do okay in the second half and ST i thought might spark them but....... shit no. in my mind we're gonna possibly need a look at QB after this week pending the outcome. it's really hard to say right now.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:04 PM   #257
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Re: Brunell Solely Responsible for Loss?

Ladell sucked as a runner, and as a blocker. wiped out our ground dimension then we had to pass, couldn't stop a blitzer.

T.J. sucked too, but i'll give him slack time because he's new. and at least when HE runs straight smack into somebody like Ladell does, he may actually get some positive yardage.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:19 PM   #258
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Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)

Pull Brunell already? NO!

Let's give EVERYONE, including Brunell a chance to get comfortable with the new Saunders playbook first.

Let Portis come back and give us a running attack AND block in front of Brunell first. We won't have a passing game until we can get defenses to respect our running game.

Remember last year...we started out playing badly and were one win away from the NFC championship, with Brunell leading the way.

I saw some bright spots in Brunell's game. Despite being pressured on every play from not having Portis back there to block or get the defense out of pass rush mode, I saw Brunell avoid some sacks and big losses with his legs. Dallas sacked him 6 times, but they should've had a few more. He made SOME nice throws, so I don't think his arm has left him, just his confidence in the playbook. Campbell has the same number of practice days under the new system as Brunell has, without the experience.

We're one loss behind everyone in the division, it's NOT panic time. We seem to start out slow every year and come on strong in the end. When we get Portis and Springs back, it will help IMMENSELY.

We should get our first win in week 3, with or without Portis. We could even consider resting him to make sure he's as healthy as possible for the Jags in week 4.

Even with our watered-down secondary, we played great for the most part on defense. Rumph and Kenny Wright had some great plays, but also had a lot of penalties too. Knocking the TD pass away from Owens was huge at the time. Speaking of knocking and Owens, Sean Taylor rocked him all night. It was great to watch. Arch had some nice hits on him too and led us in tackles. Punishing Owens like we did almost made up for losing, it was great to watch and no one else in the league deserves Taylor's wrath like Owens does. Frost averaged 51.6 yards a punt. That's awesome, especially for him. He seems to have found his foot. Hall made a 39-yard FG. I was cringing when he walked onto the field but he made a perfect kick.

Watching the self-annointed "best player in the NFL" get 3 catches for 19 yards and a broken finger was VERY satisfying.

Rock Cartright can return kicks. Who knew? Even Madden said "how does Dallas let a guy named Rock do that to them?"

Yes, we lost but the game wasn't THAT ugly. I thought we played well on defense for the first 3 quarters. We're missing 2 VERY KEY PLAYERS including one of the best RBs in the NFL and we were still in the game for most of the game. It hurts to lose to the Cowboys, but I saw improvements in many areas over last week. We lost 6 out of 8 games at one point last season but we stepped up when it mattered. We've only improved our roster over the offseason and we'll get better every week. If the playbook is really 700 pages, I can completely understand the leaning curve.

Be thankful there is no undefeated team in the NFC East. We're still in it. I watched the Eagles and Giants game and they didn't impress me very much. Dallas, especially Bledsoe, isn't Super Bowl caliber. When our offense begins rolling like Saunders offenses can, we WILL be the top team in the division. I think benching Brunell right now would only set us back a few weeks as Campbell has to start where Brunell did, in week 1. Even if Campbell does get the offense, it would likely shave 2 wins off our final record, something we can't afford if we want to be in the playoffs in this division.

I have faith in Brunell and Gibbs. Any team that knew we were going to be passing (or trying to) could shut down the passing game. Dallas knew Betts and Duckett were NOT going to replace Portis' role. It was bound to happen.

The last time we were 0-2 under Gibbs, it was 1989. We finished with 10 wins. This year, 10 wins will get us in the postseason.

Don't jump off the bandwagon like Cowboys fans jump ON it.

Hail to the Redskins.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:21 PM   #259
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:21 PM   #260
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well if they do'nt find somebody to block#1 draft pick mario williams next week,brunnell wo'nt make it out of the 1st series!we could always trade for marcus vick!(rofl)
You mean the Mario Williams who has 5 tackles and 0 sacks in 2 games?

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Old 09-18-2006, 03:22 PM   #261
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:32 PM   #262
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Ladell sucked as a runner, and as a blocker. wiped out our ground dimension then we had to pass, couldn't stop a blitzer.

T.J. sucked too, but i'll give him slack time because he's new. and at least when HE runs straight smack into somebody like Ladell does, he may actually get some positive yardage.
Betts has performed really badly while subbing for Portis.

TJ's pass protection was not at all good (this was not the case in ATL, so it is probably just a system thing), but his running was solid. He really should have been in on the 3rd and one where Betts got stoned. One of the demotions should be Betts. TJ should be the backup.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:36 PM   #263
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Betts has performed really badly while subbing for Portis.

TJ's pass protection was not at all good (this was not the case in ATL, so it is probably just a system thing), but his running was solid. He really should have been in on the 3rd and one where Betts got stoned. One of the demotions should be Betts. TJ should be the backup.
He probably will be once he has more than a week of playing under his belt.

Betts has a LOT more practice under this "complicated" system I keep hearing about.

Ladell certainly didn't help himself stay ahead of Duckett last night, but we now have to wonder if he'll get his kick returning job back from Rock.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:41 PM   #264
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Pull Brunell already? NO!

Let's give EVERYONE, including Brunell a chance to get comfortable with the new Saunders playbook first.

Remember last year...we started out playing badly and were one win away from the NFC championship, with Brunell leading the way.

Yes, we lost but the game wasn't THAT ugly. I thought we played well on defense for the first 3 quarters. We're missing 2 VERY KEY PLAYERS including one of the best RBs in the NFL and we were still in the game for most of the game. It hurts to lose to the Cowboys, but I saw improvements in many areas over last week. We lost 6 out of 8 games at one point last season but we stepped up when it mattered. We've only improved our roster over the offseason and we'll get better every week. If the playbook is really 700 pages, I can completely understand the leaning curve.
I think it is time to bench him (hear me out I am not trash talking or anything)

Brunell, if you can remember, has not been good since his injury last year. The Redskins offense has been depending on Portis to win the game all by himself.

Eversince his game in Tampa he has not done anything to help the Skins. He's more of a burden, Portis could be better off with out him. Teams are not respecing the pass, so they bring as many men as they can to the line and let Brunell win the game with his arm and it is not happening. He hasn't thrown a TD yet this year.

The other reason why the Skins went so far last year and are kept in games till the end is their great defense, but they can only do so much. I mean last night it wasn't untill late in the game that the Cowboys took them out of the game. they were down by a TD right till the end of the 3rd qurater.

I watched Campbell at Auburn and thought he was good enough to win games, the sooner they get him started they better. Yes he will lose a game or two but that is how they learn. As a Cowboys fan, I would love to see Romo in now. Gibbs and Parcells are in love with their QBs who are proven to be way past their prime.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:42 PM   #265
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:45 PM   #266
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We need a playmaker at that position. There are plenty of QBs NOT named Brunell that are out there who would NOT lose us games, like Collins and many others we could have gotten. Campbell could be that playmaker.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:47 PM   #267
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:52 PM   #268
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I've never been a fan of Brunell, but when he played well last year I gave him his props. But you know what, career over. He ran into pressure way too many times. Just trying to run out and running right into pressure that probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere near him. Brunell was, as usual, missing wide open throws, just like the preseason. Campbell has sat, he's been dedicated to learning this offense, and if we're going to have poor play from the QB position, I want one that's learning from his mistakes rather than regressing and just soaking up some money to end his career.

Brunell didn't get great protection, but a lot of that pressure he brought on himself. Pump faking, not making good reads, running out of the pocket or throwing way before he had real pressure. Some plays he didn't have a chance, but you'll get that sometimes. The INT to R. Will. was just an awful ball.

It's time for the Campbell era. I'm sorry Joe Gibbs -- this pickup failed, time to admit it and move on.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:53 PM   #269
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I'm wondering....

There has been quite a bit of assumption on this board that Gibbs will go down with the Brunell ship. I'm questioning if that is really accurate.

He also has a pretty big investment and commitment in JC.

He's been watching the same games as everyone else and is clearly most unhappy. Watching his presser after the game last night, he seemed to take great pains to not even mention the QB position. For him, that is a pretty big vote of no confidence.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:57 PM   #270
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Brunell needs to go. He is not going to win us a Superbowl we will be lucky to be 8-8 with him under center. Campbell is and has been here long enough to get started. I truely believe our RUN game and Passing game will be better off with Campbell as our QB.

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