(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

[SmootSmack]

Those "Hog Heaven" articles were written by our very own GTripp

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Those "Hog Heaven" articles were written by our very own GTripp

that is cool

[Dirtbag59]

I've just about had it with JLC's blog. It used to be a great source but right now it's at the point where I can learn more about the Skins on ES (aka the neverending sea of pointless threads).

And personally I love ES these days. Kids over there are so quick to click on the New Thread button, it's hilarious. Some of my personal favorites playing right now:
If Kenny Phillips gets drafted by a division rival(21 related)
Chris Wilson future Pro Bowl sack specialist?
Check Out my Mock Draft...give me your thoughts
Will Zorn win an NFC East game in '08?
If The Skins Had The 1st Overall Pick - Smootsmack!! You didn't!!!
This is the best year to take a QB in the Draft!!!!!

Anyway heres more of the neverending bitching from JLC's blog. The post is so bad it doesn't really deserve it's own thread. Hell it doesn't really belong in this thread but one post in a 'sideways 8' page thread can't hurt. Can it?

(JLC's Blog Is) In The Tank

In a blog recently concerning the Redskins' spending, I made reference to owner Daniel Snyder's other businesses being "in the tank."
David Donovan, the Redskins' General Counsel, took issue with this and sent a letter to washingtonpost.com and The Washington Post complaining that the statement unfairly and inaccurately characterized Snyder's business acumen.
The businesses I had in mind were those with prominent local ties - his Red Zebra radio stations, and Six Flags theme parks. I was not referring to any of Mr. Snyder's other businesses. My opinion was based on the fact that Red Zebra's Arbitron ratings have been poor and fans have complained about its weak signals, particularly during broadcasts of Redskins games. As for Six Flags, its stock price fell from around $12 a share to less than $2 a share after Snyder led a hostile takeover of the company in 2005, installing a new CEO and winning shareholder approval to oust the existing directors.
Mr. Donovan counters that "Red Zebra has continued to expand in an industry in which other companies are shedding stations and expects to achieve double-digit growth during 2008 and 2009." He also says that Mr. Snyder neither owns nor manages Six Flags - he is "a stockholder and non-managing Chairman of the Board" so it is therefore not his business.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I've just about had it with JLC's blog. It used to be a great source but right now it's at the point where I can learn more about the Skins on ES (aka the neverending sea of pointless threads).

And personally I love ES these days. Kids over there are so quick to click on the New Thread button, it's hilarious. Some of my personal favorites playing right now:
If Kenny Phillips gets drafted by a division rival(21 related)
Chris Wilson future Pro Bowl sack specialist?
Check Out my Mock Draft...give me your thoughts
Will Zorn win an NFC East game in '08?
If The Skins Had The 1st Overall Pick - Smootsmack!! You didn't!!!
This is the best year to take a QB in the Draft!!!!!

Anyway heres more of the neverending bitching from JLC's blog. The post is so bad it doesn't really deserve it's own thread. Hell it doesn't really belong in this thread but one post in a 'sideways 8' page thread can't hurt. Can it?

(JLC's Blog Is) In The Tank

In a blog recently concerning the Redskins' spending, I made reference to owner Daniel Snyder's other businesses being "in the tank."
David Donovan, the Redskins' General Counsel, took issue with this and sent a letter to washingtonpost.com and The Washington Post complaining that the statement unfairly and inaccurately characterized Snyder's business acumen.
The businesses I had in mind were those with prominent local ties - his Red Zebra radio stations, and Six Flags theme parks. I was not referring to any of Mr. Snyder's other businesses. My opinion was based on the fact that Red Zebra's Arbitron ratings have been poor and fans have complained about its weak signals, particularly during broadcasts of Redskins games. As for Six Flags, its stock price fell from around $12 a share to less than $2 a share after Snyder led a hostile takeover of the company in 2005, installing a new CEO and winning shareholder approval to oust the existing directors.
Mr. Donovan counters that "Red Zebra has continued to expand in an industry in which other companies are shedding stations and expects to achieve double-digit growth during 2008 and 2009." He also says that Mr. Snyder neither owns nor manages Six Flags - he is "a stockholder and non-managing Chairman of the Board" so it is therefore not his business.

Hot damn! I had no idea about that ES thread! I haven't read ES in weeks.

The Six Flags thing while technically true (not really being his business) it still seems a bit like a cop-out

As for Red Zebra, they will probably very soon announce some new additions to their station lineup in the DC area that will make them very potent

[SmootSmack]

Anyway, back to the thread right now I'm thinking

1. Merling or Campbell
2. Best available receiver

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Anyway, back to the thread right now I'm thinking

1. Merling or Campbell
2. Best available receiver

1. Albert, Merling, Chris Willams, Trevor Laws, L. Jackson, Calais Campbell in that order.
2. Anyone who falls well past their draft slot at the following positions: CB, S, DT, DE, OG, OT, WR.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1. Albert, Merling, Chris Willams, Trevor Laws, L. Jackson, Calais Campbell in that order.
2. Anyone who falls well past their draft slot at the following positions: CB, S, DT, DE, OG, OT, WR.

Ok, so now this iwaht I am thinking about the draft

1. Quentin Groves/Godser Cherilus/Chris Williams
2. Jordy Nelson/Trevor Laws/Calais Campbell

[Dirtbag59]

Interesting article from NFL Draft Countdown. Personally I don't consider them the best source for information on prospects but they do provide very manageable info as well as college stats for all four years, which to me is a huge reason why I frequently visit their site. Anyway I thought it was funny that some of the players the Redskins were looking at were being compared to current Redskin players.

Quarterbacks

Matt Ryan - Matt Hasselbeck
Brian Brohm - Marc Bulger
Joe Flacco - Ben Roethlisberger
Chad Henne - Jon Kitna
André Woodson - David Carr
J.D. Booty - Brian Griese

Running Backs

Darren McFadden - Edgerrin James
Jonathan Stewart - Jamal Lewis
Rashard Mendenhall - Shaun Alexander
Felix Jones - Brian Westbrook
Chris Johnson - Tatum Bell
Ray Rice - Travis Henry
Matt Forté - Ladell Betts - Redskins are currently looking into him
Kevin Smith - Chris Brown
Jamaal Charles - Willie Parker

Fullbacks

Peyton Hillis - Brian Leonard
Owen Schmitt - Mike Karney
Jacob Hester - Nick Goings

Wide Receivers

Devin Thomas - Javon Walker
Limas Sweed - Larry Fitzgerald
DeSean Jackson - Ted Ginn
James Hardy - Plaxico Burress
Mario Manningham - Isaac Bruce
Malcolm Kelly - Dwyane Jarrett

Tight Ends

Dustin Keller - Chris Cooley - err not really looking but still interesting
John Carlson - Anthony Becht
Martellus Bennett - Marcedes Lewis
Fred Davis - Chris Baker

Offensive Tackles

Jake Long - Jamaal Brown
Ryan Clady - Jason Peters
Jeff Otah - Kareem McKenzie
Gosder Cherilus - Jonas Jennings
Chris Williams - Chris Samuels

Offensive Guards

Branden Albert - Vernon Carey
Chilo Rachal - Derrick Dockery
Roy Schuening - Steve Neal

Centers

Mike Pollak - Hank Fraley
Jeremy Zuttah - Chris Chester


Defensive Ends

Chris Long - Mike Vrabel
Vernon Gholston - Shawne Merriman
Derrick Harvey - Will Smith
Phillip Merling - Trevor Pryce
Calais Campbell - Tommy Kelly
Quentin Groves - LaMarr Woodley
Lawrence Jackson - Kenechi Udeze

Defensive Tackles

Glenn Dorsey - Anthony McFarland
Sedrick Ellis - Casey Hampton
Kentwan Balmer - Vonnie Holliday
Trevor Laws - Chris Hovan

Outside Linebackers

Keith Rivers - Derrick Johnson
Erin Henderson - E.J. Henderson
Cliff Avril - Shaun Phillips
Xavier Adibi - Demorrio Williams

Inside Linebackers

Jerod Mayo - Al Wilson
Dan Connor - Paul Posluszny
Curtis Lofton - David Harris

Cornerbacks

D. Rodgers-Cromartie - Antonio Cromartie
Leodis McKelvin - Philip Buchanon
Mike Jenkins - Carlos Rogers
Antoine Cason - Antrel Rolle
Aqib Talib - Chris McAlister

Safeties

Kenny Phillips - Chris Hope
Reggie Smith - Brodney Pool
DaJuan Morgan - Sean Jones
Tyrell Johnson - Daniel Manning

[Dirtbag59]

1st - Traded for Chad Johnson or Anquan Boldin

2nd - Charles Godfrey - CB/S - Iowa - Great combination of physical tools and versitility

3rd - Kendall Langford - DT/DE - Hampton - Aggresive inside pass rusher that can also play end. They could also draft a guy like Marcus Harrison from Arkansas if he falls this far with Langford off the board

3rd Comp - Tony Hills - T/G - Texas - The Redskins get a talented O-line prospect that unfortunatley comes with injury concerns

5th - Chad Rhinehart - G/T - Northern Iowa - Redskins try to make sure they come away from this draft with at least one good lineman by drafting two guys from the same position like they have in years past, but then again 5th round picks have had trouble making the team in recent years.

6th - Kevin O' Donnell - QB - San Diego State - The Redskins get a raw and talented QB prospect that has the type of mobility and arm you look for in a West Coast QB

7th - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State - Redskins get a productive OLB that will be sure to be a hit on special teams

7th - Joey Haynos - TE - Maryland - Big local product that can contribute as a 2nd TE in passing plays

7th - Andrew Crummy - C/G - Redskins get another local product that can play Center.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

1st - Traded for Chad Johnson or Anquan Boldin

2nd - Charles Godfrey - CB/S - Iowa - Great combination of physical tools and versitility

3rd - Kendall Langford - DT/DE - Hampton - Aggresive inside pass rusher that can also play end. They could also draft a guy like Marcus Harrison from Arkansas if he falls this far with Langford off the board

3rd Comp - Tony Hills - T/G - Texas - The Redskins get a talented O-line prospect that unfortunatley comes with injury concerns

5th - Chad Rhinehart - G/T - Northern Iowa - Redskins try to make sure they come away from this draft with at least one good lineman by drafting two guys from the same position like they have in years past, but then again 5th round picks have had trouble making the team in recent years.

6th - Kevin O' Donnell - QB - San Diego State - The Redskins get a raw and talented QB prospect that has the type of mobility and arm you look for in a West Coast QB

7th - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State - Redskins get a productive OLB that will be sure to be a hit on special teams

7th - Joey Haynos - TE - Maryland - Big local product that can contribute as a 2nd TE in passing plays

7th - Andrew Crummy - C/G - Redskins get another local product that can play Center.

Woah, wait a minute! How is that possible???!!!! Don't you know that trading for Chad Johnson means we're not allowed to make any other moves. There's no way, NO WAY, we can make a trade for Chad Johnson (getting a big-time WR to help the offense and Campbell) and still get a potential a CB, DE, OL (two in fact!), not to mention depth at other positions to! How is that even possible!!!!

Your logic has no place here

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Woah, wait a minute! How is that possible???!!!! Don't you know that trading for Chad Johnson means we're not allowed to make any other moves. There's no way, NO WAY, we can make a trade for Chad Johnson (getting a big-time WR to help the offense and Campbell) and still get a potential a CB, DE, OL (two in fact!), not to mention depth at other positions to! How is that even possible!!!!

Your logic has no place here

Tomfoolery is afoot.

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Woah, wait a minute! How is that possible???!!!! Don't you know that trading for Chad Johnson means we're not allowed to make any other moves. There's no way, NO WAY, we can make a trade for Chad Johnson (getting a big-time WR to help the offense and Campbell) and still get a potential a CB, DE, OL (two in fact!), not to mention depth at other positions to! How is that even possible!!!!

Your logic has no place here

The problem with that is just because you draft a CB and so on doesn't mean he can play, there is a reason they are not projected in the early part of the draft. We should be looking to replace starters with youth not find backups for them.

[SmootSmack]

So this morning I was telling Matty (Matty and I talked a lot this morning) that rumors around here and Redskins Park were that Kelly might even be available late in round 2...and then BAM! He reportedly runs a 4.63 and a 4.66 in his private pro day.

He bitched and moaned only to drop from a 4.68 to a 4.63 (at best)? He's plumetting

So we can go

1. Merling
2. Kelly

or if Merling isn't there, we can possibly trade down out of the first round and into the early second and get Campbell or Jackson. Next Saturday is going to be fun

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So this morning I was telling Matty (Matty and I talked a lot this morning) that rumors around here and Redskins Park were that Kelly might even be available late in round 2...and then BAM! He reportedly runs a 4.63 and a 4.66 in his private pro day.

He bitched and moaned only to drop from a 4.68 to a 4.63 (at best)? He's plumetting

So we can go

1. Merling
2. Kelly

or if Merling isn't there, we can possibly trade down out of the first round and into the early second and get Campbell or Jackson. Next Saturday is going to be fun

Yes, it will be my friend. With 9 picks, yes, it will be.

[SmootSmack]

So DRC reminds them of his cousin? Erin Henderson reminds them of his brother? Fascinating