Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[The Goat]

Jeez, I've been waiting all day to see 1) what's left over from the insanity of the last 24 hrs 2) reasonable scenarios of who we can sign to the o-line.

... c'mon people, i'm relying on you here

[Schneed10]

First post in the thread is updated. Note that numbers are very preliminary at this point, but should be in the ballpark. CC will nail down the numbers like he always does.

I have us at $7.0 million in cap space currently. This is based on Canuck's February 12th sheets, and reflecting the following moves which have taken place since:

- The addition of Haynesworth and Hall.
- The tenders of Golston, Monty, and Suisham.
- The release of Washington and Springs.
- The voiding of Phillip Daniels' contract.
- The restructures/extensions of Carter, Randle-El, Samuels, and Griffin.
- The re-signing of Ethan Albright.

I anticipate Dockery can be had for $3.5 in space (assuming 15 million guaranteed). I anticipate we can grab another lineman for $2.5 or so. That should still leave us enough room for our rookies, and either Daniels or Evans, assuming the price on them comes down over the few weeks (which I think it will, they can't be valued very highly outside of Redskins Park).

[Redskins8588]

Thats good that we have an opportunity to still bring back Dockery, he should have never left and our left side of the line would be top notch.

[Schneed10]

With the addition of Derrick Dockery, we move to $4.4 million in cap space. Per Schefter, he was signed for a bargain, $8.2 million in guaranteed money.

We still have the room to get another lineman.

We're at $4.4 million in space (ballpark). This is based on Canuck's February 12th sheets, and reflecting the following moves which have taken place since:

- The addition of Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery.
- The tenders of Golston, Monty, and Suisham.
- The release of Washington and Springs.
- The voiding of Phillip Daniels' contract.
- The restructures/extensions of Carter, Randle-El, Samuels, and Griffin.
- The re-signing of Ethan Albright.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

- The addition of Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery.
- The tenders of Golston, Monty, and Suisham.
- The release of Washington and Springs.
- The voiding of Phillip Daniels' contract.
- The restructures/extensions of Carter, Randle-El, Samuels, and Griffin.
- The re-signing of Ethan Albright.

I have updated my sheets to reflect everything above except:
- The addition of Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery.

Based on PCinOZ's info I was able to decipher the details of all the extensions.

I have us at $13.682M of cap room.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I have updated my sheets to reflect everything above except:
- The addition of Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery.

Based on PCinOZ's info I was able to decipher the details of all the extensions.

I have us at $13.682M of cap room.

The top thread was updated to reflect better details on the four contract extensions (Carter, Randle El, Griffin, and Samuels). JLC had reported a savings of 10.0 between them. Your numbers showed an actual savings of 9.1 between them.

This was changed. At this point, I'm getting 3.5 million in cap room, which now jumps off your 13.6 with added estimations for Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery, plus the $4 million increase in the cap limit.

It has occurred to me the Redskins may want to get a punter worth a crap. I haven't seen anything saying they plan to do so, though.

Thanks for the info, CC.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The top thread was updated to reflect better details on the four contract extensions (Carter, Randle El, Griffin, and Samuels). JLC had reported a savings of 10.0 between them. Your numbers showed an actual savings of 9.1 between them.

This was changed. At this point, I'm getting 3.5 million in cap room, which now jumps off your 13.6 with added estimations for Haynesworth, Hall, and Dockery, plus the $4 million increase in the cap limit.

It has occurred to me the Redskins may want to get a punter worth a crap. I haven't seen anything saying they plan to do so, though.

Thanks for the info, CC.

I think i heard they looked at hunter smith, but the money is pretty tight now.

if the deals were haynesworth (41/5 + .745 = 8.945) hall (22.5/5 + .745 = 5.245), and dockery (8.5/5 + .745 = 2.445) that's 16.635mill.

that's 5 years proration on bonuses + vet min for years in the NFL. If the bonuses are guaranteed, according the the rules for this year, they're either pro-rated, like the signing bonus, or count 100% or 50% towards 2009's cap (50% if the guaranteed money is to be paid after 2012). I don't know the status on at least 8mill of haynesworth's guarantees, so i'm assuming proration for now, since that's the smallest 2009 cap hit.

the 8mill might be some type of split bonus but i'm not sure you can call non-guaranteed money as part of the 41$mill guarantee.

2009 specific salary cap 101:
Salary Cap 101: The Final Capped Year - NFL UK Forums

again, if someone has better info, please share.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

I think i heard they looked at hunter smith, but the money is pretty tight now.

if the deals were haynesworth (41/5 + .745 = 8.945) hall (22.5/5 + .745 = 5.245), and dockery (8.5/5 + .745 = 2.445) that's 16.635mill.

that's 5 years proration on bonuses + vet min for years in the NFL. If the bonuses are guaranteed, according the the rules for this year, they're either pro-rated, like the signing bonus, or count 100% or 50% towards 2009's cap (50% if the guaranteed money is to be paid after 2012). I don't know the status on at least 8mill of haynesworth's guarantees, so i'm assuming proration for now, since that's the smallest 2009 cap hit.

the 8mill might be some type of split bonus but i'm not sure you can call non-guaranteed money as part of the 41$mill guarantee.

2009 specific salary cap 101:
Salary Cap 101: The Final Capped Year - NFL UK Forums

again, if someone has better info, please share.

Hunter Smith has interest in us, not sure how mutual it is at this point

[BigHairedAristocrat]

so we have 4.4M is actual money we can spend on free agents? The rookie pool has been accounted for seperately? And how much do we need for players to replace those who could become injured during the season?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

so we have 4.4M is actual money we can spend on free agents? The rookie pool has been accounted for seperately? And how much do we need for players to replace those who could become injured during the season?

It's 4.4 right now, before the rookies. We'll have 4 picks, and I'm estimating a rough number of 2.5 for them. There will be 4 of them though, and signing them will bump some players out of the top 51.

I think we can sign one guy to a deal similar to what Dock got, wait for Evans or Daniels and get them at a low price, then sign our rookies.

CC will nail down the numbers real tight though, then we'll really know what we're dealing with.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

well we'll have almost another full million if we hurry up and cut thrash.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

well we'll have almost another full million if we hurry up and cut thrash.

Is that really true? What the hell are we waiting for?

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

well we'll have almost another full million if we hurry up and cut thrash.

You mean our best special teamer? No thank you, Thrash is a true Redskin and has got a couple more in the tank.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

You mean our best special teamer? No thank you, Thrash is a true Redskin and has got a couple more in the tank.

what is up with the man crush on Thrash? some of those rookies will definitely be playing on special teams. i say see you later to Thrash

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by dmek25

what is up with the man crush on Thrash? some of those rookies will definitely be playing on special teams. i say see you later to Thrash

He plays a 100% percent. Both of our last two coaches rave about his pratice work ethic and locker room presence. Shoot, Joe Gibbs once said he wished he had 53 James Trashes. And last but not least, he never get any love on this board and has been a redskin forever.