Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[Trample the Elderly]

I'll be happy with the decision that the new administration makes, because it's not Cerrato's dumb ass.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.

mark brunell had similar numbers and everyone wanted to run him off.

[MTK]

A new coach usually means a new QB. Especially with a guy who is so hands on with his QB's like Shanahan. I've got no problem with drafting a QB if that's the decision.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A new coach usually means a new QB. Especially with a guy who is so hands on with his QB's like Shanahan. I've got no problem with drafting a QB if that's the decision.

I agree that a new coach usually means a new QB but the only QB Shanny had success with is Elway who was a superstar before Shanny got there.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree that a new coach usually means a new QB but the only QB Shanny had success with is Elway who was a superstar before Shanny got there.

Cutler played his best ball under him, who knows where that could have led to.

Elway had some of his best years under Shanahan.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Cutler played his best ball under him, who knows where that could have led to.

Elway had some of his best years under Shanahan.

I think Elway had great years under his other coach too.

Cutler might have played good ball but they didnt win so it didnt seem like it was going to lead anywhere. In his last 3 seasons at Den Shanny was 24-24. Who knows, maybe had they stuck with him it might have but I wonder if DS will stick with him if he's 24-24 after 3 seasons.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree that a new coach usually means a new QB but the only QB Shanny had success with is Elway who was a superstar before Shanny got there.

This is simply not true. He got both Griese and Cutler to the pro bowl as well as securing a pro bowl alternate spot for Jake Plummer in 2005. To say he hasn't had success with QB's since he won the Super Bowl is like saying that up until now the Saints have failed with Drew Brees because they haven't even been to the Super Bowl with him as their QB.

This will be said a lot over the next few weeks, heck it's already been said, but Elway had lost 3 Super Bowls before Shannahan came in.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

This is simply not true. He got both Griese and Cutler to the pro bowl as well as securing a pro bowl alternate spot for Jake Plummer in 2005. To say he hasn't had success with QB's since he won the Super Bowl is like saying that up until now the Saints have failed with Drew Brees because they haven't even been to the Super Bowl with him as their QB.

This will be said a lot over the next few weeks, heck it's already been said, but Elway had lost 3 Super Bowls before Shannahan came in.

I dont recall saying he didnt have success with QB, what I think I said (or meant to say) is that once Elway left his teams didnt really have much success. If they did have success I'm pretty sure he'd still be in Denver.

Hopefully it works out and with Vinny gone I think chances are better than ever that it will.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont recall saying he didnt have success with QB, what I think I said (or meant to say) is that once Elway left his teams didnt really have much success. If they did have success I'm pretty sure he'd still be in Denver.

Hopefully it works out and with Vinny gone I think chances are better than ever that it will.

Alright, yeah on that point I agree. However I think that was mainly due to a lack of talent on defense. Maybe that was his fault since he was in charge of putting together the roster, but in looking at his numbers his offenses have never had a problem. On top of that I don't think he's had a D-Coordinator that has been on the level Zimmers currently at for a while.

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont recall saying he didnt have success with QB, what I think I said (or meant to say) is that once Elway left his teams didnt really have much success. If they did have success I'm pretty sure he'd still be in Denver.

Hopefully it works out and with Vinny gone I think chances are better than ever that it will.

Keep in mind that not only did he lose Elway, he also lost Terrell Davis to injury. T.D played in only 17 games in 3 seasons after their last Superbowl victory. He also lost 2 other Pro Bowlers on offense Shannan Sharpe and Mark Schlereth. Lastly, he lost his 4 time pro bowler CB Dale Carter to the Ravens. That 98-99 Denver team was stacked, it wasn't just Elway, Elway proved 4 times before he couldn't carry the team by himself.

[Kalisto2010]

I can only conjure 2 words to define this poll. Stockholm Syndrome.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

I can only conjure 2 words to define this poll. Stockholm Syndrome.

San Francisco!


Let me guess, you were on the Sanchez wagon.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

From the Press Conference, Bruce Allen on Campbell: While he's had 51 starts, his best days are ahead of him.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

From the Press Conference, Bruce Allen on Campbell: While he's had 51 starts, his best days are ahead of him.

[SmootSmack]

Allen also said there will be no status quo with the new coach. Translation-if the new coach doesn't want Campbell, Campbell's current starter status will not afford him any benefit of the doubt

Sanchez's best days are ahead of him as well Buster