Bradford/Clausen now split among Mock Drafts

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Couldn't have said it better.

The thing with Bradford why everyone likes him is because he has the two traits which just about every football coach in america looks at;
Is he accurate?
and is he a winner?

Definitley, and yes.


and thank you Dirtbag for your evaluations of the two best QB's in this years draft.

No problem. Though I must say I disagree on the second trait. I'd say the ability to read defenses is the second most important trait for a QB to have. Football is the ultimate team game so assigning a win to one player is a little to much for me.

@Ruhskins: If you're reading this you can see what I was talking about with ESPN Insider under Clausens Mental Markup. I sware it's really starting to get to me.


Lol, the Bill fans have an idea of what we're going through.....ok it's kind of different because at least we have a good QB, Buffalo has nothing.

Edwards has coinflip chance?
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Trent Edwards | Bills Top Email

While he didn't appear to be the answer at QB in 2009, Trent Edwards has "at least a 50 percent chance" of being the starter at the outset of the 2010 season, according to Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News. That sound you hear is Bills Nation collectively hurling their laptops at the wall.

Gaughan notes that by improving in the trenches -- likely going with a blue-chip OT at No. 9 overall in the draft -- the team can "achieve respectability." If they go OT (or another non-QB position) at No. 9, the QB they take in a later round will likely be unready to start right out of the gates.

[CultBrennan59]

Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com

So now they'll need a QB.

And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick

Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com

now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.

So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com

So now they'll need a QB.

And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick

Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com

now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.

So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...

Apparently they're quite smitten with Vick right now.

Rams' interest in Vick intensifies?
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Michael Vick | Eagles | Interested: Cardinals?, Bills?, Panthers?, Rams?, Raiders? Top Email

Possible Vick landing spots
Buffalo Bills: The team desperately needs a QB, and there could be a scheme match as well: Bills coach Chan Gailey made a viable NFL starter out of Tyler Thigpen in 2008 running a spread offense, and Vick is a souped-up version of Thigpen.
St. Louis Rams: GM Billy Devaney has a relationship with Vick dating back to the Atlanta Falcons days, and Devaney even visited Vick in prison. Like the Bills, the Rams are in dire straits with their QB situation.
We've been speculating on some possible trade locations for Michael Vick for a while now. Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that Rams assistants were calling in to Philly to ask about Vick and during his lap around Radio Row at the Super Bowl last week, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo seemed genuinely interested in acquiring Vick, per Miklasz. With the word that Marc Bulger might not be long for St. Louis, this has increased speculation that the Rams are heavily in play for No. 7.

Vick had some interesting remarks on the radio recently (as reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution). He indicated that he was "complacent, somewhat lazy" while with the Falcons, and he vowed to work harder for his next team. Buzz on a possible Vick deal puts the price tag as a fourth-rounder, according to multiple sources.

In addition to the Bills and Rams -- considered the two front-runners -- Clifton Brown of the Sporting News opines that the Raiders, Panthers and Cardinals all make sense as trade destinations for No. 7.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Right now, I don't even think we will be able to get Bradford. This is the first sign right here Report: Bulger cleans out locker | ProFootballTalk.com

So now they'll need a QB.

And the team which picks in front of us, the Bucs may trade out of their 3rd overall pick

Dominik says Bucs are ready to trade up, or to trade down | ProFootballTalk.com

now if they were to trade down with the Bills or any other team in need of a QB, then its 50-50 as to which QB they take and the upper hand goes to Bradford.

So now maybe we may not even get Bradford even if we want to...

You trust PFT wayy too much. That being said, sounds like under these scenarios we would get our pick of the litter when it comes to tackles. Not a horrible situation to be in if you are a Redskins fan.

[CultBrennan59]

Redskins Insider - Kiper's argument for the Redskins drafting Clausen

Mel Kipers reasoning to Jason Reid as to why we should get Clausen and go QB first OL second.

[Ruhskins]

Here's some news about Bradford for all of you that have a boner for him...

Move the Sticks » Breaking News

[53Fan]

Stay The Course: Thursday And Long-Redskins Shouldn't Be Drafting A QB

NFL Team News, Scores, Standings, Schedules, Stats & Transactions

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Stay The Course: Thursday And Long-Redskins Shouldn't Be Drafting A QB

NFL Team News, Scores, Standings, Schedules, Stats & Transactions

Good article...nothing new but still pretty convincing. Honestly my best case scenario, the thing I'd like to see, is JC have a Pro-Bowl season in the B & G this year behind a totally revamped line.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Good article...nothing new but still pretty convincing. Honestly my best case scenario, the thing I'd like to see, is JC have a Pro-Bowl season in the B & G this year behind a totally revamped line.

Won't happen, if he were behind the Jets OL :smashfrea

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Won't happen, if he were behind the Jets OL :smashfrea

The Jets offensive line could make YOU look like a good QB if you play behind them.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Jets offensive line could make YOU look like a good QB if you play behind them.

No, and they couldn't make Campbell either...by the way Russell Okung from Oklahoma State has been getting strong comparisons to D'Brickashaw Ferguson, would that be a good enough OLineman for a Zone blocking shanahan offense?

[Ruhskins]

I give up.

[53Fan]

I really think the biggest point of contention here is Campbell. Some believe with a quality o-line we can go to the playoffs and beyond and question whether either Bradford or Clausen would truly be an upgrade at QB. Others believe we'll never go far with JC whether we improve the line or not and a change must be made at the position. Unfortunately due to the circumstances with, poor o-line play, system changes, unstability etc., it's become hard to come up with a conclusive answer. There are reasons to believe JC can do the job, improving stats behind a horrible o-line etc., and there are reasons to believe one of the top QB's in the draft could be elite, but there are still unanswered questions in both cases.
One thing I'm sure of, we cannot win with this o-line. If we decide to draft Bradford or Clausen, I will be behind it. But if we draft Okung in the first and Pouncey in the second for example, I'll feel like the days of the o-line taking a backseat to any and every skill position are over. And I will be damn happy about it.

[tryfuhl]

Either way, assuming we have a QB picked early.. and starts somewhat early on, you can be sure every mistake will be pointed out and used to trash him, though Campbell was sheltered from most of those

reminds me a lot of the political threads where everything is the new admin's fault

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Either way, assuming we have a QB picked early.. and starts somewhat early on, you can be sure every mistake will be pointed out and used to trash him, though Campbell was sheltered from most of those

reminds me a lot of the political threads where everything is the new admin's fault

Most of it is