Ravens at Redskins Post Game Thread (RG3 MRI Result-Sprained Knee)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Look...everyone take a real deep breath here. We are all relieved...very relieved RGIII hasn't suffered significant ligament damage.

But...

The Cleveland Browns is just one damn game. And if RGIII doesn't play and we lose and miss the playoffs, so effin what. We have 10-15 years to think about. Stop being so short-sighted. We have a great thing going here guys

There's always next year.

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

Watch the game before commenting. Most if not all the hits he took today were on him for holding the ball too long or on scrambles.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Most if not all the hits he took today were on him for holding the ball too long or on scrambles.

LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?

A QB who can run and plays fearless like RG3 is going to take some hits. Fact of life. If you like the 76 yard TD runs you have to live with the scary hits too. As his career develops I doubt we'll see him running as much as he does now.

Watch the game and let's talk.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by The Goat

LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?

Well then let's get him a better pass coverage OL and more threats at WR.

I think the play calling was great today on O, and some of those ol breakdowns were on the pistol shotgun play action passes. The ravens got great push on our guys all day. They are a solid group of pass rushers.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

His run was an unfortunate hit, but most of the times he got smashed today was in the pocket trying to throw the ball.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Bushead

His run was an unfortunate hit, but most of the times he got smashed today was in the pocket trying to throw the ball.

Again I haven't seen it, but this sounds like a replay of the season up to this point. It's not a tenable situation.

[12thMan]

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[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

I thought we actually were more of a traditional offense today. If you want to save RG III get him a RT and another playmaker. He was running more because of oline break downs. He didn't run much except when he was trying to win the game and the oline broke down and the Ravens had the coverage.

Today wasn't a game in which they called 5 running plays for him. He ran when he had to. Honestly I thinks that's why when Cousins ran a draw on the 2 point conversion it worked. Tey hadn't seen anything like that all day, then bam hit up with it. Never mind that it was Cousins over RG.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I thought we actually were more of a traditional offense today. If you want to save RG III get him a RT and another playmaker. He was running more because of oline break downs. He didn't run much except when he was trying to win the game and the oline broke down and the Ravens had the coverage.

Today wasn't a game in which they called 5 running plays for him. He ran when he had to. Honestly I thinks that's why when Cousins ran a draw on the 2 point conversion it worked. Tey hadn't seen anything like that all day, then bam hit up with it. Never mind that it was Cousins over RG.

Good post, I'm already pumped to watch us win but this makes it more interesting.

When I said RG3 running is a main ingredient to the offense I didn't distinguish between pass blocking breakdowns and/or option reads/pistol/etc. The end result is the same...right? I don't care if he's running for his life based on play design or play break down, it's the same risk/results over the long haul.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Good post, I'm already pumped to watch us win but this makes it more interesting.

When I said RG3 running is a main ingredient to the offense I didn't distinguish between pass blocking breakdowns and/or option reads/pistol/etc. The end result is the same...right? I don't care if he's running for his life based on play design or play break down, it's the same risk/results over the long haul.

I don't think you will get many arguements on your second point.

Also you gotta believe someone as smart as Robert and a guys as smart as Kyle they will mold this offense. Taking into account that they need to lessen the blows on Robert.

You still need to watch it though. It was amazing. Lots of highs and some lows then... Ecstasy!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I thought we actually were more of a traditional offense today. If you want to save RG III get him a RT and another playmaker. He was running more because of oline break downs. He didn't run much except when he was trying to win the game and the oline broke down and the Ravens had the coverage.

Today wasn't a game in which they called 5 running plays for him. He ran when he had to. Honestly I thinks that's why when Cousins ran a draw on the 2 point conversion it worked. Tey hadn't seen anything like that all day, then bam hit up with it. Never mind that it was Cousins over RG.

its beacuse our running QB was out if the game so thinking the would pass he ran. Perfect play calling.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

So you're saying I'm off, but you haven't watch the fukcing game? #GTFOH You're the one who's off. I didn't guarantee that RG3 would play 10-15 more years, I merely suggested it. It was a reasonable one at that.

And given the context of the discussion: Playing RGIII in seven days and risk exaggerating a severe injury or resting him for a possible playoff run seems like a reasonable assessment on my part.

I'll let you play GM and head coach about what type of quarterback Robert will in 10 years.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So you're saying I'm off, but you haven't watch the fukcing game? #GTFOH You're the one who's off. I didn't guarantee that RG3 would play 10-15 more years, I merely suggested it. It was a reasonable one at that.offense.

And given the context of the discussion: Playing RGIII in seven days and risk exaggerating a severe injury or resting him for a possible playoff run seems like a reasonable assessment on my part.

I'll let you play GM and head coach about what type of quarterback Robert will in 10 years.

Why should Goat watch the game? Facts inconsistent with his opinion are irrelevant.

Lecturing people without seeing a play. Words fail me.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Haven't watched the game yet ...

I think everybody should have stopped reading there. I know I did.





Goat...it's one thing to see the game and then base your opinion on something and comment, but to try and provide a opinion about a game you didn't even see is retarded. Watch the game like you did last time and then come back in. Thanks in advance.