Super Bowl Gameday Thread

[Alvin Walton]

Oh, the pass was late?
Mr. Perfect Russel Wilson gave away a super bowl win?
tsk tsk

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Oh, the pass was late?
Mr. Perfect Russel Wilson gave away a super bowl win?
tsk tsk

I think it was more about Wilson than the bad call. Especially after looking at all the information.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I think it was more about Wilson than the bad call. Especially after looking at all the information.

The throw was bad but the call was worse imo. Butler made a great break on the ball.
It is strange though that I hear nobody talking about Wilson throwing the int. Can you imagine if that was Romo? Lmao. He would be absolutely crucified. People are acting like Wilson is a victim. I understand that he does not have a history of choking like Romo, but my God if I had a dollar for everytime i have heard the words bad pass or mistake when referring to Wilsons throw.....well.....id still be piss poor.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The throw was bad but the call was worse imo. Butler made a great break on the ball.
It is strange though that I hear nobody talking about Wilson throwing the int. Can you imagine if that was Romo? Lmao. He would be absolutely crucified. People are acting like Wilson is a victim. I understand that he does not have a history of choking like Romo, but my God if I had a dollar for everytime i have heard the words bad pass or mistake when referring to Wilsons throw.....well.....id still be piss poor.

I find that strange, too. Carroll and Bevell didn't throw that ball. The QB has to know that in that situation, don't throw a pick! At worst case, live for the next down.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The throw was bad but the call was worse imo. Butler made a great break on the ball.
It is strange though that I hear nobody talking about Wilson throwing the int. Can you imagine if that was Romo? Lmao. He would be absolutely crucified. People are acting like Wilson is a victim. I understand that he does not have a history of choking like Romo, but my God if I had a dollar for everytime i have heard the words bad pass or mistake when referring to Wilsons throw.....well.....id still be piss poor.

The public and some in the media always give "nice guys/teams" a lot of slack. If Wilson gets credit for winning last year's SB (even though his team was up 29-0 when he actually threw a TD), he should get the blame for this loss.

Still the coaches are not blameless, they should've given Lynch the ball.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The public and some in the media always give "nice guys/teams" a lot of slack. If Wilson gets credit for winning last year's SB (even though his team was up 29-0 when he actually threw a TD), he should get the blame for this loss.

Still the coaches are not blameless, they should've given Lynch the ball.

99% of the time that kind of throw play is either a catch or a drop. The probability of it being a pic was really low. It is probably the same percent probability that Lynch would have fumbled.

Everyone is just hind-sighting it. Everyone in that stadium figured he go Lynch, they tried to surprise the Pats with a throw. the odds were on the Seahawks side it either be dropped or caught just happen they got the low percent outcome; INT.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The public and some in the media always give "nice guys/teams" a lot of slack. If Wilson gets credit for winning last year's SB (even though his team was up 29-0 when he actually threw a TD), he should get the blame for this loss.

Still the coaches are not blameless, they should've given Lynch the ball.

I agree to an extent, but the coaches made the call to begin with and thats why they deserve the most blame. I certainly think Wilson could a have made a better throw, specifically putting the ball on the receiver and not leading him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The public and some in the media always give "nice guys/teams" a lot of slack. If Wilson gets credit for winning last year's SB (even though his team was up 29-0 when he actually threw a TD), he should get the blame for this loss.



Still the coaches are not blameless, they should've given Lynch the ball.

The Fonz would quote your post and give u a big ole "exactamundo"!

[Alvin Walton]

So much for massive security.

Two Irish guys sneaked into the Super Bowl without tickets and snagged $25,000 seats - The Washington Post

[over the mountain]

the call was designed to get the ball out super quick. 3 step drop throw slant, hope the chip route slowed the corner enough. the chip receiver didnt chip, the corner read and broke on the ball before the ball was out, receiver didnt body enough, ball wasnt as low as it could have been.

imo wilson did exactly what he was supposed to do on that play. maybe the ball could have been a little lower but wilson did his job.

imo the play design doesnt give wilson any options or discretion. its a quick 3 step dro so i dont think there is any defender wilson is supposed to read and then decide whether or not to throw it.

wilson has no choice/options/discretion with the way the play call was.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

the call was designed to get the ball out super quick. 3 step drop throw slant, hope the chip route slowed the corner enough. the chip receiver didnt chip, the corner read and broke on the ball before the ball was out, receiver didnt body enough, ball wasnt as low as it could have been.

imo wilson did exactly what he was supposed to do on that play. maybe the ball could have been a little lower but wilson did his job.

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Agree.

[MTK]

Based on my extensive knowledge as a play caller from Madden, I would have pounded Lynch again on 2nd down and immediately call a TO if we get stuffed. 3rd down playaction and boot out Wilson with a pass/run option, if nothing there throw it away and get to 4th down where I'd again pound it with Lynch. Boom championship.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Based on my extensive knowledge as a play caller from Madden, I would have pounded Lynch again on 2nd down and immediately call a TO if we get stuffed. 3rd down playaction and boot out Wilson with a pass/run option, if nothing there throw it away and get to 4th down where I'd again pound it with Lynch. Boom championship.

Lol. Come on Matty. Plenty of other NFL people including the Seahawks players have ripped the call. This is not a question of fans thinking they know better, this is a question of wtf were they thinking? They did have a TO and yes i would agree pound it with Lynch or Wilson on a boot.

[mredskins]

I honestly don't think there is anyone to "blame". Both plays; 1 yard run or the 1 yard slant pass are both low risk high reward plays on the goal line. I almost say it was more risky to run ML if you feared losing yards. I mean the Pats had just stopped him on 1st down from what the 4 yard line?

ML could have have easily done this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5rQmdKKQgI

PLUS NE has a top ten rush defense anchored by Vince Wilfork

2014 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

It was by no way the worst call ever made in NFL history as some say.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I honestly don't think there is anyone to "blame". Both plays; 1 yard run or the 1 yard slant pass are both low risk high reward plays on the goal line. I almost say it was more risky to run ML if you feared losing yards. I mean the Pats had just stopped him on 1st down from what the 4 yard line?

ML could have have easily done this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5rQmdKKQgI

PLUS NE has a top ten rush defense anchored by Vince Wilfork

2014 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

It was by no way the worst call ever made in NFL history as some say.

Plus in the regular season, in 5 attempts from the 1 yard line, Lynch only scored once. The running play was not as high percentage as some people think.