Coaching and Front Office Changes

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Agree. I think you need it in a balanced form...you still need that instinctual sense in your coordinating coaches. Game has feel and rhythm to it...also you need to know when to make adjustments. In planing, analytics really helps, real time, I’ll trust a harden football coach with instinct about the game

I think this is exactly how Rivera sees it based on his comments.

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[AnonEmouse]

Agree with last 3 posts. You take what you see on film AND the numbers.

[SFREDSKIN]

Good for KOC and McVay

Rams are finalizing a deal to make former Redskins offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell their offensive coordinator, per source. O’Connell succeeded McVay as OC in Washington, now will work with him in LA.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Good for KOC and McVay

Rams are finalizing a deal to make former Redskins offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell their offensive coordinator, per source. O’Connell succeeded McVay as OC in Washington, now will work with him in LA.

Here you go, forgot this:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...l-coordinators

I'm really surprised it only took like a week for KOC to get snatched up, thought he did nothing to deserve playcaller or coordinator responsibilities while he was here.

[punch it in]

Rivera can do whatever he wants. Bring over your gang from Carolina. They have been a better franchise than we have for years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Rivera can do whatever he wants. Bring over your gang from Carolina. They have been a better franchise than we have for years.

Really. If you want to change the culture a good way is to import it en masse from a franchise that is respected.

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Really. If you want to change the culture a good way is to import it en masse from a franchise that is respected.

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Exactly

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Exactly

Two things on this.

I really hope he’s right letting Hilliard and KOC walk. We will see.

I’m concerned that he’s not making hiring decision on who’s truly best for the job or who has the most talent. He’s only hiring everyone from Carolina and old friends.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Two things on this.

I really hope he’s right letting Hilliard and KOC walk. We will see.

I’m concerned that he’s not making hiring decision on who’s truly best for the job or who has the most talent. He’s only hiring everyone from Carolina and old friends.


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One of the huge gripes before was that there were multiple voices with multiple directions, ie callahan wanting run heavy, jay wanting whatever his offense was etc.

If Rivera wants a staff that is in tune AND inline with his vision of the team, that has to be part of the best man for the job decision. Hilliard or KOC might go on to do great things, I hope they do. But my understanding is that KOC wanted final say on his coaches, and that is asking for little fiefdoms, IN the Redskins past structures.

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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Rivera can do whatever he wants. Bring over your gang from Carolina. They have been a better franchise than we have for years.

I agree with you 100%. I've always felt that an NFL owner should hire the best person he can find as the unquestioned leader of football operations and judge that person's performance primarily on W's and L's over a fair and reasonable period of time.

- No responsibilities unrelated to winning football games.

- No murkiness over who is responsible for what.

- No finger pointing.

- No palace intrigue.

- No "but we're winning off the field" nonsense.

Hopefully, it's all about the W's now. Any of us should be able to appraise the job Rivera does under the new setup. Just look at the standings. That's the way it should be.

[skinsfan69]

It's really not a big deal about the Carolina coaches. My thing is I don't want Cam Newton and the gang coming here.

[Warthog]

To break down the old failed personnel in one of the worst and most dysfunctional football franchises in the last 20 years, you have to replace people, both coaches, executives and players. First Rivera must change out the old executives and coaches who might be beholden to SNYDER.

Besides Bruce Allen’s terrible tenure as our GM, which is now over - Snyder has had his fingers in the management and mismanagement of this team. By having no one in the team structure that will do Snyder’s bidding, he is being locked out of a lot of the football decisions.

This is the biggest strategic change with the Redskins. No built-in sycophant and no Snyder being part of tactical football decisions. The fact that many of these people were brought over from Carolina is not nearly as important that Snyder is out of the small stuff as many of us hoped!


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Warthog

To break down the old failed personnel in one of the worst and most dysfunctional football franchises in the last 20 years, you have to replace people, both coaches, executives and players. First Rivera must change out the old executives and coaches who might be beholden to SNYDER.

Besides Bruce Allen’s terrible tenure as our GM, which is now over - Snyder has had his fingers in the management and mismanagement of this team. By having no one in the team structure that will do Snyder’s bidding, he is being locked out of a lot of the football decisions.

This is the biggest strategic change with the Redskins. No built-in sycophant and no Snyder being part of tactical football decisions. The fact that many of these people were brought over from Carolina is not nearly as important that Snyder is out of the small stuff as many of us hoped!


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I imagine my opinion will be unpopular, but I think locking Snyder out is the absolute worst thing Rivera can do.

Right now, Rivera clearly has carte blanche with Snyder, and holds the cards. If he turns around and locks Snyder out, in a few years, regardless of how the team is doing, Dan will get that itch to interfere. IF he has not been involved to that point then he will find back channels to get his point across. And our cycle will reset.

I want Snyder to have an open line with Rivera, and the ability to ask questions, give input and learn to respect how coaches make decisions. Further if he has something or someone he firmly believes should be played, drafted, hired I want Rivera to hear Snyder and work through to the best solution.

I know some owners do best up in the box and never heard, but I don't think that will ever be DS's style so we need Rivera to mentor and coach our owner as well as our team.



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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I imagine my opinion will be unpopular, but I think locking Snyder out is the absolute worst thing Rivera can do.

Right now, Rivera clearly has carte blanche with Snyder, and holds the cards. If he turns around and locks Snyder out, in a few years, regardless of how the team is doing, Dan will get that itch to interfere. IF he has not been involved to that point then he will find back channels to get his point across. And our cycle will reset.

I want Snyder to have an open line with Rivera, and the ability to ask questions, give input and learn to respect how coaches make decisions. Further if he has something or someone he firmly believes should be played, drafted, hired I want Rivera to hear Snyder and work through to the best solution.

I know some owners do best up in the box and never heard, but I don't think that will ever be DS's style so we need Rivera to mentor and coach our owner as well as our team.



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Unpopular is an understatement. Lol. Why do you think Snyder is not at least briefed on these moves though?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Unpopular is an understatement. Lol. Why do you think Snyder is not at least briefed on these moves though?

Right now, I assume he is. My comment was directed against the thought of locking Snyder out of the discussions as was mentioned in the post I quoted. I actually don't think my opinion should be unpopular, because we all know Snyder is the owner and will be for the next 30 years, so it is in our interest to want Rivera to teach him how to be a good owner and what boundaries are appropriate. Ie Yes you can give me your thoughts on draft prospects, no you can not pick the player on draft day. If Rivera and Snyder don't keep open lines of communication and/or Snyder doesn't learn the appropriate boundaries, then regardless how succeasful Rivera is, Snyder will fall into dysfunction after Rivera leaves.

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