'Skins number game

[cosellfan]

Originally Posted by Dave Butz Baby!

Nice list, DWins. Can't believe I forgot Joe Lavender. Now anyone remember what Cosell called #89 Alvin Garrett?

This is a very old topic but since it's still open, here are my two cents worth.

Taken in context, Howard Cosell didn't actually call Garrett anything. One of the politically (in)correct words he used at least four times that I know of is listed below along with the context of how he used it.

FOR THE RECORD: It has already been proven that these comments had nothing to do with racism. Cosell was a strong civil-rights supporter of all athletes including Curt Flood, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Arthur Ashe, Muhammed Ali, and John Carlos/Tommy Smith (1968 Olympics) among others.

FACT: There are at lease FOUR separate "little monkey" comments made by Cosell, (not just one or two).

#1. "You know that little monkey... again, the theorem was that he was too small for pro football." - August 29, 1972 K.C. Chiefs vs. N.Y. Giants preseason HOF game (re: Mike Adamle)

#2. "Look at that little monkey run!" (Unidentified player, mid 70's game, punt or kickoff return?) Does anyone remember who this one was about???

#3. "Joe Gibbs wanted to get that kid, and that little monkey gets loose doesn't he?" - September 5, 1983 Dallas at Washington (re: Alvin Garrett)

#4. "That little monkey can really pick it." 1982, Cosell called white Atlanta Braves second baseman a "little monkey" while praising his fielding skills. (re: Glenn Hubbard)

I have already eliminated Alvin Garrett (Washington Redskins), Mike Adamle (K.C. Chiefs), and Joe Washington (Baltimore Colts and Washington Redskins) with my review of those games and players above. Note: It was not the game where Joe Washington ran a last minute 91 yd kickoff return for a touchdown to win the game 34-27 during the September 18, 1978 Monday night game between the Baltimore Colts at New England Patriots.

[SKINSnCANES]

damn, I dont have a computer for a few days and you guys go haywire on posts, lol. Only other time ive ever seen so many posts was on draft day.

[SKINSnCANES]

none of those names mean anything to me, except Mitchell of course. Of course I was born in 82 so that would explain it.

are any skins number officially retired?

[Dave Butz Baby!]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

none of those names mean anything to me, except Mitchell of course. Of course I was born in 82 so that would explain it.

are any skins number officially retired?

Only one number is officially retired... Sammy Baugh's #33. There was talk last year that there will probably be one more, maybe this season. Mr. Green's #28.

[Hogskin]

DefenseWins, WOW, I had forgotten all about Mul-Key. Yeah, he was real good on the returns for a while. I guess Mitchell has to be considered the greatest of our kick returners, but Nelms was definitely my favorite. Amazing guy. Just refused to fair catch, period. And always seemed to hold onto the ball and make something happen.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

DefenseWins, WOW, I had forgotten all about Mul-Key. Yeah, he was real good on the returns for a while. I guess Mitchell has to be considered the greatest of our kick returners, but Nelms was definitely my favorite. Amazing guy. Just refused to fair catch, period. And always seemed to hold onto the ball and make something happen.

Hogskin, you're right about Nelms. I don't think Nelms ever made a fair catch in his entire career. I wish that rule was abolished altogether. No fair catches, I say!

So here's my question for you. Mitchell has all these return records and only Payton and Jerry Rice have more total yards in their NFL careers, so is Mitchell a Hall-of-Famer? Is he first ballot? Anyone can jump in and answer this

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

DefenseWins, WOW, I had forgotten all about Mul-Key. Yeah, he was real good on the returns for a while. I guess Mitchell has to be considered the greatest of our kick returners, but Nelms was definitely my favorite. Amazing guy. Just refused to fair catch, period. And always seemed to hold onto the ball and make something happen.

Hogskin
Mike Nelms was my favorite as well. I know this might piss the younger fans off, but I liked Nelms slightly better than Brain Mitchell as well. Mitchell has much more yards because he played alot longer and played on better and more talented teams. But after watching them both play, Mike Nelms (in my opinion) was slightly more explosive as a pure play maker on kick returns.
Plus do you remember Mike Nelms was also the #2 safety and the #1 goal line safety. He would tackle and hit so hard that coaches limited his play on defense because he would end up bruising/hurting his shoulders and they did not want to lose him on returns. He was a big hitter.

[MTK]

Is Brian Mitchell a Hall of Famer?

That's a tough one. As a special teams ace he's pretty much done it all, I would think that eventually he would have to get in. First ballot..... probably not.

[JWsleep]

Man, I'm away from the computer for a few hours, and y'all come up with a 19 page thread!

I was trying to remember the names and numbers of the original Hogs. Anyone?

(and if we ever get custom avatars, save me one of Big Route 66, Joe Jacoby.)

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Is Brian Mitchell a Hall of Famer?

That's a tough one. As a special teams ace he's pretty much done it all, I would think that eventually he would have to get in. First ballot..... probably not.

Wow, you don't think mitchell is a first ballot HOF? I know it's special's, but he is the best of all time, I think he deserves to be a first ballot HOF, who know's the way some of these guy's vote.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by offiss

Wow, you don't think mitchell is a first ballot HOF? I know it's special's, but he is the best of all time, I think he deserves to be a first ballot HOF, who know's the way some of these guy's vote.

the guy is second all time in yards behind Jerry Rice. Thats total yards for anyplayer all time. Second to Jerry Rice should be a shoe in for the hall of fame in my opiinion.

[Dave Butz Baby!]

Original Hogs were C Jeff Bostic #53, G Russ Grimm #68, G Mark May #73, T Joe Jacoby #66, T George Starke #74, and TE Doc Walker #88.

Hmmmm... Or was Don Warren the Hog?

[SmootSmack]

I think both Doc and Warren were Hogs

[azskinsfan2]

I didn't see Kenny Houston mentioned anywhere in there but I can't remember his number. He did a great job for the Skins!!!!

[Dave Butz Baby!]

Originally Posted by azskinsfan2

I didn't see Kenny Houston mentioned anywhere in there but I can't remember his number. He did a great job for the Skins!!!!

Here ya go!