Skins getting heat again over name issue

[Warthog]

I’m really surprised that ppl are saying the NFL is “just about done”. Ready to go out of business. Seriously??

1. MLB lost a season and it’s still here. Baseball is boring as shitte and people still go to games or watch it in tv.

2. All the NFL teams are owned by BILLIONAIRES. They can lose a few bucks because the COVID 19 Pandemic has cut the preseason by 2 games.

3. Lets just take one of the worst owners in the NFL. Our own Dan Snyder. He bought the team for $800 mill and the team is now worth over $3 bill. That’s after 20 years of pure mediocrity and piss poor football- most of it caused by Snyder himself. Our 20 year history under Snyder has seen our team go from a SB contender to 28th in the NFL (underneath us - Browns and Bengals). Our stadium is horrible and run down. All the food and beverages at FEDEX are way overpriced and service is really bad. There are as many fans from TGE OTHER TEAM - as from actual Redskins fans.

I personally think that the team is going to FINALLY turn it around. But the teams value has increased even with all of Snyder’s gross buffoonery. WHY? Because the NFL is the most popular sport in this country. Games are on 4-5 days a week. Teams play in England and people THERE go to see the games. The NFL has games on ENGLISH TV (admittedly at 1:00 or 2:00 am). This is a country where the people understand and like cricket .

The reason the NFL makes so much money is TELEVISION. That is why even a numbnut like Snyder has seen his team increase in value. Because the NFL is a huge cash cow. The SB sells a 30 second spot of advertising for over a million$$. Hell, the NFL even makes money on the COMBINE and the DRAFT. Over 25 years ago ppl didn’t even know what the Combine was! The NFL has ppl watching the draft - with most of the players that are drafted are out of the NFL five years later.

The Redskins will NOT lose fans because the name or uniform changes. The fan base will INCREASE. Why? It will show that even a bad owner like Snyder can change. After 20 years he finally gave control to the HC, without a GM like Cerrato or Allen to secretly do his bidding. Rivera said yesterday that he wanted to change the team’s name. He’s been talking it over with Snyder for the last couple weeks. Rivera wants the team name to HONOR THE MILITARY. What’s wrong with that? Snyder wants to honor the Native Americans. What’s wrong with that?

Changing the name gets money flowing to the team so they can pay BIG BUCKS to the coaches, GM, scouts, executives, etc who wouldn’t come work for this crappy team otherwise. That is until this team starts to win.

Changing the name gets the team back to DC, with a new, modern Stadium. Maybe it gets the team a new practice facility.

Change just for changes sake is bad. But it’s time for this team to change for the better. Picking a new name that honors the military is a great idea. That new name may get the military servicemen and women and veterans who are a big part of the DC population to come for OUR team, not the opponent. Picking a name that honors a tribe or the Native Americans is going to show Snyder can change and improve as an owner.

Changing the name gets ppl excited about this team again. New name, new HC, new GM (hopefully), new DC, new OC, Chase Young! This team will turn around. In 5-7 years we may have a new stadium (if Snyder abandons the FEDEX contract early - not likely but here’s hoping).

The old name is going. I hope that Snyder gets the new name right. But he’s got Rivera and probably Alex Smith to help him improve.

Oh yeah, and the NFL will be around long after we are gone. Lol.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I’m really surprised that ppl are saying the NFL is “just about done”. Ready to go out of business. Seriously??

1. MLB lost a season and it’s still here. Baseball is boring as shitte and people still go to games or watch it in tv.

2. All the NFL teams are owned by BILLIONAIRES. They can lose a few bucks because the COVID 19 Pandemic has cut the preseason by 2 games.

3. Lets just take one of the worst owners in the NFL. Our own Dan Snyder. He bought the team for $800 mill and the team is now worth over $3 bill. That’s after 20 years of pure mediocrity and piss poor football- most of it caused by Snyder himself. Our 20 year history under Snyder has seen our team go from a SB contender to 28th in the NFL (underneath us - Browns and Bengals). Our stadium is horrible and run down. All the food and beverages at FEDEX are way overpriced and service is really bad. There are as many fans from TGE OTHER TEAM - as from actual Redskins fans.

I personally think that the team is going to FINALLY turn it around. But the teams value has increased even with all of Snyder’s gross buffoonery. WHY? Because the NFL is the most popular sport in this country. Games are on 4-5 days a week. Teams play in England and people THERE go to see the games. The NFL has games on ENGLISH TV (admittedly at 1:00 or 2:00 am). This is a country where the people understand and like cricket .

The reason the NFL makes so much money is TELEVISION. That is why even a numbnut like Snyder has seen his team increase in value. Because the NFL is a huge cash cow. The SB sells a 30 second spot of advertising for over a million$$. Hell, the NFL even makes money on the COMBINE and the DRAFT. Over 25 years ago ppl didn’t even know what the Combine was! The NFL has ppl watching the draft - with most of the players that are drafted are out of the NFL five years later.

The Redskins will NOT lose fans because the name or uniform changes. The fan base will INCREASE. Why? It will show that even a bad owner like Snyder can change. After 20 years he finally gave control to the HC, without a GM like Cerrato or Allen to secretly do his bidding. Rivera said yesterday that he wanted to change the team’s name. He’s been talking it over with Snyder for the last couple weeks. Rivera wants the team name to HONOR THE MILITARY. What’s wrong with that? Snyder wants to honor the Native Americans. What’s wrong with that?

Changing the name gets money flowing to the team so they can pay BIG BUCKS to the coaches, GM, scouts, executives, etc who wouldn’t come work for this crappy team otherwise. That is until this team starts to win.

Changing the name gets the team back to DC, with a new, modern Stadium. Maybe it gets the team a new practice facility.

Change just for changes sake is bad. But it’s time for this team to change for the better. Picking a new name that honors the military is a great idea. That new name may get the military servicemen and women and veterans who are a big part of the DC population to come for OUR team, not the opponent. Picking a name that honors a tribe or the Native Americans is going to show Snyder can change and improve as an owner.

Changing the name gets ppl excited about this team again. New name, new HC, new GM (hopefully), new DC, new OC, Chase Young! This team will turn around. In 5-7 years we may have a new stadium (if Snyder abandons the FEDEX contract early - not likely but here’s hoping).

The old name is going. I hope that Snyder gets the new name right. But he’s got Rivera and probably Alex Smith to help him improve.

Oh yeah, and the NFL will be around long after we are gone. Lol.


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You wrote this long ass story without even realizing, it's not "people" that are saying the NFL is just about done. It's "person" as in one guy.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by mooby

You wrote this long ass story without even realizing, it's not "people" that are saying the NFL is just about done. It's "person" as in one guy.

Sorry, I write long posts.

I fought for my country so I will say or wear whatever I want. That includes Redskins gear. Hell, I’ve always worn Redskins stuff in an Eagles-Redskins game in the Vet & Lincoln Stadium in Philly, AND had REDSKINS signs to boot. Nasty, drunk ass fans there wanted to fight me when I had my 8-year old son or daughter with me, holding my hand. I just laughed at them and walked away. Also had the Eagles fans cuss me out in front of the same.

Last year I stopped going to the Linc in Philly because it just wasn’t fun to be surrounded with all those drunken jerkoffs. Of course going to FEDEX isn’t much better with so many fans from the other team!

Hope it starts to change this season.

Don’t be afraid to say what you think or wear what you want. “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”.

Of course, getting super pissed off and upset over a football game seems ridiculous to me. To my mind, there are a lot of bigger things to worry about. But I DO hate when we lose!


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Sorry, I write long posts.

I fought for my country so I will say or wear whatever I want. That includes Redskins gear. Hell, I’ve always worn Redskins stuff in an Eagles-Redskins game in the Vet & Lincoln Stadium in Philly, AND had REDSKINS signs to boot. Nasty, drunk ass fans there wanted to fight me when I had my 8-year old son or daughter with me, holding my hand. I just laughed at them and walked away. Also had the Eagles fans cuss me out in front of the same.

Last year I stopped going to the Linc in Philly because it just wasn’t fun to be surrounded with all those drunken jerkoffs. Of course going to FEDEX isn’t much better with so many fans from the other team!

Hope it starts to change this season.

Don’t be afraid to say what you think or wear what you want. “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”.

Of course, getting super pissed off and upset over a football game seems ridiculous to me. To my mind, there are a lot of bigger things to worry about. But I DO hate when we lose!


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Well said..and agree

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Sorry, I write long posts.

I fought for my country so I will say or wear whatever I want. That includes Redskins gear. Hell, I’ve always worn Redskins stuff in an Eagles-Redskins game in the Vet & Lincoln Stadium in Philly, AND had REDSKINS signs to boot. Nasty, drunk ass fans there wanted to fight me when I had my 8-year old son or daughter with me, holding my hand. I just laughed at them and walked away. Also had the Eagles fans cuss me out in front of the same.

Last year I stopped going to the Linc in Philly because it just wasn’t fun to be surrounded with all those drunken jerkoffs. Of course going to FEDEX isn’t much better with so many fans from the other team!

Hope it starts to change this season.

Don’t be afraid to say what you think or wear what you want. “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”.

Of course, getting super pissed off and upset over a football game seems ridiculous to me. To my mind, there are a lot of bigger things to worry about. But I DO hate when we lose!


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Man, that was a joke. The older I get, the less fucks I give about what anyone thinks. Especially when it's clear that all Native Americans are not in agreement about the name.

I don't care that the name is changing because at a certain point, the fight is not worth the effort. We're at that point.

Originally Posted by mooby

Man, that was a joke. The older I get, the less fucks I give about what anyone thinks. Especially when it's clear that all Native Americans are not in agreement about the name.

I don't care that the name is changing because at a certain point, the fight is not worth the effort. We're at that point.

That’s what’s wrong with the younger generation they just don’t fucking care and uneducated they don’t learn history anymore fuck they don’t even know how to write in cursive that’s just what the liberals and the far left wants a bunch of zombies.dumb fuck

[JackLord]

Suffice it to say, I think the name change controversy is one that has been manufactured and amplified by small, but voraciously vocal group. But where we are is where we are.

Still, this notion that changing it will Give Danny a new lease and the team will flourish is wishful thinking exemplified. Danny's ownership would the same if he owned the Giants, Saints, or any other franchise.

The problem has not been the name or the crappy stadium. It's been Snyder's much documented impatience, arrogance, and micro-managing. Changing the label and moving it to a new environment is not going to change that.

I am encouraged by Ron Rivera and hints that Snyder has changed. But we have seen that before. It is tempting to think that this might be time to cease being a fan of Washington. And perhaps the NFL.

[SunnySide]

One time I had someone ask me about wearing skins gear. A nice enough European guy running a coffee shop i frequented in the garden district of New orleans.

He asked something along the lines of "how do you feel about wearing that hat?"

me "it's kinda embarrassing because we continually suck and you guys are the saints but you know man, that's my team."

he tried to clarify he wasnt asking a sports question but I'm Just a smiling dummy and have some walk away non answer.

I can say I think I did take off my skins hat when I was in Nevada or somewhere walking into a reservation type shop along the side of a road.

Idk that's my only experience ...

[BaltimoreSkins]

Regardless even if an owner is in financial trouble there are plenty of billionaires that would be able to jump in. Hell it is more expensive to buy a house in southern California than it is to buy an NFL franchise. I bet SD has enough to buy the Skins in his cup holder in his car.

[The_Hangman_C_Hanburger]

Only other move I could support is Snyder moving the team to Virginia. Completely recast the name ..get rid of the name Washington... FU Washington DC...Retire the name Washington Redskins and enter a new era as Virginia "XXXX" or what ever. I would not let these fucks dictate to me what I do with my team.

Get out of Washington altogether.

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by The_Hangman_C_Hanburger

Only other move I could support is Snyder moving the team to Virginia. Completely recast the name ..get rid of the name Washington... FU Washington DC...Retire the name Washington Redskins and enter a new era as Virginia "XXXX" or what ever. I would not let these fucks dictate to me what I do with my team.

Get out of Washington altogether.

Virginia lol. What happened when Virginia tried getting a baseball team? Virginia isn't getting a football team. To bad that won't happen. Baltimore/DC are the best spots for sports teams to be in the DMV, and it will remain that way.

[The_Hangman_C_Hanburger]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

Virginia lol. What happened when Virginia tried getting a baseball team? Virginia isn't getting a football team. To bad that won't happen. Baltimore/DC are the best spots for sports teams to be in the DMV, and it will remain that way.

Maryland and DC are bastions of bullshit. Loudon County/Dulles AP area has all the high speed infrastructure to support the team without all the crime that comes from the RFK/ SE Washington area.

[irish]

Originally Posted by The_Hangman_C_Hanburger

Maryland and DC are bastions of bullshit. Loudon County/Dulles AP area has all the high speed infrastructure to support the team without all the crime that comes from the RFK/ SE Washington area.

High speed infrastructure? Metro doesn't go out there and the Toll Road is grid-locked most of the day. Getting out to Loudoun Co might be worse than getting to FedEx.

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by The_Hangman_C_Hanburger

Maryland and DC are bastions of bullshit. Loudon County/Dulles AP area has all the high speed infrastructure to support the team without all the crime that comes from the RFK/ SE Washington area.

But Virginia doesn't have any of the four major sports do they? Feel dumb now? Virginia lost the nationals to DC and Virginia couldn't get it done. DC is in the top ten for media markets I believe.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

But Virginia doesn't have any of the four major sports do they? Feel dumb now? Virginia lost the nationals to DC and Virginia couldn't get it done. DC is in the top ten for media markets I believe.

Montgomery County and PG County comprise 2 million people. Moving the team to VA and driving there for games vs easy access to Baltimore 23 miles up the road? There are finances the team would have to take into consideration. Would they gain more fans moving into VA than they would lose?