Dictator Trump Takeover

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If you do something illegal, aren't you a lawbreaker?

Are all law breakers handcuffed and sent to detention camps are their families deported. All of this without "Due Process"? You run a stop sign what happens I mean you broke the law, you drop a gum wrapper you broke the law, right? Many of the ones being taken have been good tax paying citizens here for years with jobs. So tell me their crime , wanting a better life for themselves and their families by being a good American citizen and doing what every other "good American does"........they at the least deserve due process.


Due process, particularly procedural due process, refers to the legal requirement that an individual must be given a fair and adequate legal procedure before being deprived of life, liberty, or property.


Supreme Court of the United States plays a crucial role in interpreting and enforcing these principles, tracing their roots back to the Magna Carta of 1215, which established early concepts of lawful judgment. The Fifth Amendment, part of the Bill of Rights, and the Fourteenth Amendment extend these rights to protect individuals against actions by the federal and state governments, respectively.

The Court has determined that procedural due process encompasses key elements such as notice and the opportunity to be heard, ensuring that individuals have a fair chance to contest governmental actions that could affect their rights. It applies across various legal contexts, including criminal and civil proceedings, and addresses issues like the adjudication processes of lower courts and the treatment of individuals in mental health institutions. The Court's decisions emphasize the necessity of a neutral judge and the importance of safeguarding individual rights against arbitrary governmental actions. Through landmark cases, the Supreme Court continues to shape the understanding and application of due process in American law, reflecting a commitment to fairness and justice in legal proceedings.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Are all law breakers handcuffed and sent to detention camps are their families deported. All of this without "Due Process"? You run a stop sign what happens I mean you broke the law, you drop a gum wrapper you broke the law, right? Many of the ones being taken have been good tax paying citizens here for years with jobs. So tell me their crime , wanting a better life for themselves and their families by being a good American citizen and doing what every other "good American does"........they at the least deserve due process.


Due process, particularly procedural due process, refers to the legal requirement that an individual must be given a fair and adequate legal procedure before being deprived of life, liberty, or property.


Supreme Court of the United States plays a crucial role in interpreting and enforcing these principles, tracing their roots back to the Magna Carta of 1215, which established early concepts of lawful judgment. The Fifth Amendment, part of the Bill of Rights, and the Fourteenth Amendment extend these rights to protect individuals against actions by the federal and state governments, respectively.

The Court has determined that procedural due process encompasses key elements such as notice and the opportunity to be heard, ensuring that individuals have a fair chance to contest governmental actions that could affect their rights. It applies across various legal contexts, including criminal and civil proceedings, and addresses issues like the adjudication processes of lower courts and the treatment of individuals in mental health institutions. The Court's decisions emphasize the necessity of a neutral judge and the importance of safeguarding individual rights against arbitrary governmental actions. Through landmark cases, the Supreme Court continues to shape the understanding and application of due process in American law, reflecting a commitment to fairness and justice in legal proceedings.

If you commit a crime, you get arrested (handcuffed) and go to jail (detention center). Or at least you should.

I wish people that did litter and didn't pick up their dog's shit went to a detention center. Fuck those people.

I believe that due process is for American citizens. Also, if I broke into your home and stayed there, should I get to stay there until I have a court hearing and all of my appeals are completed? Of course not. You would want me removed immediately. Doesn't matter if I vacuumed and washed my plate after I was done eating.

If you come across the border illegally, you should be returned to your home country. Why was Joe Biden allowed to let millions of people flood our country illegally? But then Trump can't return them to their country? Democrat politicians are all for it because it gives them more power. More house seats now when they get counted for in the census and more votes later when democrats get what they are truly after, legal voting rights for all of them. If it was millions of conservatives from Poland crossing our border, democrats would build a wall to the moon as soon as possible and love enforcing border laws. It is a huge power play for rich democrats (and phony republicans) to get richer and to obtain power for themselves. They don't give one flying fuck about you or me.

Also, you can't claim to be for the lower and middle class and also be an open-border globalist.

[mooby]

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/file...TA01660679.pdf

This is who you are defending Chico.

Edit: The DOJ was very quick to take the file down, however the internet was quicker to save the documents.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16r5...ew?usp=sharing

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If you commit a crime, you get arrested (handcuffed) and go to jail (detention center). Or at least you should.

I wish people that did litter and didn't pick up their dog's shit went to a detention center. Fuck those people.

I believe that due process is for American citizens. Also, if I broke into your home and stayed there, should I get to stay there until I have a court hearing and all of my appeals are completed? Of course not. You would want me removed immediately. Doesn't matter if I vacuumed and washed my plate after I was done eating.

If you come across the border illegally, you should be returned to your home country. Why was Joe Biden allowed to let millions of people flood our country illegally? But then Trump can't return them to their country? Democrat politicians are all for it because it gives them more power. More house seats now when they get counted for in the census and more votes later when democrats get what they are truly after, legal voting rights for all of them. If it was millions of conservatives from Poland crossing our border, democrats would build a wall to the moon as soon as possible and love enforcing border laws. It is a huge power play for rich democrats (and phony republicans) to get richer and to obtain power for themselves. They don't give one flying fuck about you or me.

Also, you can't claim to be for the lower and middle class and also be an open-border globalist.

Due Process cannot just be for citizens.

In your example: someone breaks into my home.

in your version as a citizen with due process:

my neighbor sees someone breaking into my house. It's me I forgot my keys. I explain this to the officer but my deed is in my safety deposit box. I am given a court date, show up with my deed and the court verifies my documents(due process ) I go home a free and safe person

in your example a citizen with ICE version of due process:
my neighbor sees someone breaking into my house. It's me I forgot my keys. ICE immediately arrests me and sends me to the colorado supermax. i object the whole way saying it's my house, but am not given the opportunity to show the deed,(no due process) and once in Colorado I have no access to my safety deposit box so i can't prove it.

in your example with a non citizen with normal due process
my neighbor reports a breakin at my house. the police arrive and the man claims he has the right to be there but his identity can't be verified. They detain him and he has a fast court date where a judge says he did NOT have the right to be there (due process) and he is sent, appropriately to the maryland jail system.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I will always hold these words as truth -

- Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!".


To lump all immigrants, even those who came illegally, into a bucket of evil is simply wrong. Instead of rounding up people based on ethnicity, ICE and DHS should be focusing on the lawbreakers. And abidng by the laws themselves. But that is not what is happening. And killing US citizens that clearly are not acting in a life threatening method is not acceptable. ever.

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We have existing federal laws and an extremely generous immigration policy in place. Doing it the right way is not too much to ask.

[BaltimoreSkins]

It is hard not to see what is happening to the immigrant community and for me not to take it personally. My mother in law met her husband in Bermuda while he was serving in the US Air Force. They were married in 1971 and moved to the United States in 1974 where he began to work for the NSA. She was unable to get citizenship until 1985. For anyone that thinks we have a logical and "generous" immigration system is just not thinking clearly.

If what was happening now happened in 1976 my mother in law would've been deported along with my wife. This is a situation that has happened multiple times since ICE has started their heinous and unconstitutional tactics. Arresting people with no warrants, holding them without lawyers etc etc

We have deported military veterans and American citizens. Many without due process. I keep hearing about criminals and yes we should deport those that have committed certain crimes. However I never hear anyone ever say we should go after the real criminals, the corporations and businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers to take advantage of them and their labor. The truth is we will go after those with no voice because it is easier than going after Exxon or Amazon.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Due Process cannot just be for citizens.

In your example: someone breaks into my home.

in your version as a citizen with due process:

my neighbor sees someone breaking into my house. It's me I forgot my keys. I explain this to the officer but my deed is in my safety deposit box. I am given a court date, show up with my deed and the court verifies my documents(due process ) I go home a free and safe person

in your example a citizen with ICE version of due process:
my neighbor sees someone breaking into my house. It's me I forgot my keys. ICE immediately arrests me and sends me to the colorado supermax. i object the whole way saying it's my house, but am not given the opportunity to show the deed,(no due process) and once in Colorado I have no access to my safety deposit box so i can't prove it.

in your example with a non citizen with normal due process
my neighbor reports a breakin at my house. the police arrive and the man claims he has the right to be there but his identity can't be verified. They detain him and he has a fast court date where a judge says he did NOT have the right to be there (due process) and he is sent, appropriately to the maryland jail system.

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Your examples are so infrequent and absurd, I can't answer all of these. You're making up random stories to justify your position.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It is hard not to see what is happening to the immigrant community and for me not to take it personally. My mother in law met her husband in Bermuda while he was serving in the US Air Force. They were married in 1971 and moved to the United States in 1974 where he began to work for the NSA. She was unable to get citizenship until 1985. For anyone that thinks we have a logical and "generous" immigration system is just not thinking clearly.

If what was happening now happened in 1976 my mother in law would've been deported along with my wife. This is a situation that has happened multiple times since ICE has started their heinous and unconstitutional tactics. Arresting people with no warrants, holding them without lawyers etc etc

We have deported military veterans and American citizens. Many without due process. I keep hearing about criminals and yes we should deport those that have committed certain crimes. However I never hear anyone ever say we should go after the real criminals, the corporations and businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers to take advantage of them and their labor. The truth is we will go after those with no voice because it is easier than going after Exxon or Amazon.

We need to make legal immigration way faster than this!

But we also need to handle illegal immigration way faster too. You can't just walk to the border from any country and say "Asylum" then stay forever. Or have Joe Biden create some bullshit app and say every person that used that app gets to stay here forever. The most recent story is the dad that ditched his kid, still gets sent back to Minnesota with his kid he ditched to save himself. He came across the border in January 2024 with the Biden App, but somehow in February 2026, he still didn't have his "Asylum" hearing held. 2 fucking years, and he was still here with no hearing.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We need to make legal immigration way faster than this!

But we also need to handle illegal immigration way faster too. You can't just walk to the border from any country and say "Asylum" then stay forever. Or have Joe Biden create some bullshit app and say every person that used that app gets to stay here forever. The most recent story is the dad that ditched his kid, still gets sent back to Minnesota with his kid he ditched to save himself. He came across the border in January 2024 with the Biden App, but somehow in February 2026, he still didn't have his "Asylum" hearing held. 2 fucking years, and he was still here with no hearing.

I know you're not one for facts but he didn't "ditch his kid" but please make up so more pretend outrage at Biden you're a good little trumpett.

[Giantone]

sorry

[Giantone]

This will make you smile.................


https://youtube.com/shorts/5HaIwF8Tw...tRhAOPXy7KL4xS

[Chico23231]

BREAKING: DHS confirms to
@FoxNews
that a semi-truck driver arrested for causing a head on crash in Indiana that killed 4 people on Tuesday is a Kygryzstani national who entered the US via the Biden administration's CBP One cell phone app on 12/19/2023 at the Nogales, AZ port of entry, and was released into the US via parole by the Biden admin.

Police say 30-year-old Bekzhan Beishekeev was driving on SR 67 in Jay County, Indiana when he didn’t stop for another slowed semi-truck, swerving instead into oncoming traffic and crashing head-on into a van, killing four people, several of whom were reportedly Amish, according to local media.

ICE records show Beishekeev is now in ICE custody, meaning local law enforcement honored a detainer and already handed him over.

A reminder, the Biden era CBP One cell phone app allowed 50,000 to 60,000 otherwise inadmissible aliens to enter the US legally every month for two year humanitarian parole grants. President Trump terminated the program the day he was inaugurated, and has since turned it into a self deportation app.


Absolutely shameful

[Chico23231]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...uss-rcna257693

Maryland man faces attempted murder charges after allegedly showing up at OMB Director Russell Vought's home last year
Colin Demarco, 26, is also charged with carrying a firearm without a permit and the unlawful wearing of a mask.


Justice Kavanugh, Charlie Kirk, President Trump twice, Russell Vought, Health care CEO

The democrat party is the party of violence and assassination

Shameful, anyone who supports this trash

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...uss-rcna257693

Maryland man faces attempted murder charges after allegedly showing up at OMB Director Russell Vought's home last year
Colin Demarco, 26, is also charged with carrying a firearm without a permit and the unlawful wearing of a mask.


Justice Kavanugh, Charlie Kirk, President Trump twice, Russell Vought, Health care CEO

The democrat party is the party of violence and assassination

Shameful, anyone who supports this trash

both sides have their terrorists because the extremists rule the narrative of both parties at this point.

here is a list chronologically sorted of politically motivated attacks. neither side is innocent :

https://www.kcra.com/article/charlie...tates/66054815

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Your examples are so infrequent and absurd, I can't answer all of these. You're making up random stories to justify your position.

i took your example and put it in context of ICE and due process. They were metaphors because you said the following:

I broke into your home and stayed there, should I get to stay there until I have a court hearing and all of my appeals are completed? Of course not. You would want me removed immediately. Doesn't matter if I vacuumed and washed my plate after I was done eating.

Obviously that is more infrequent than any of my metaphors.

Bottomline - due process is what allows a citizen to prove they are entitled to the rest of the protections given only to citizens. It is the gatekeeping mechanism that checks everyone so no one that is eligible to enjoy our constitutional protections gets denied them. That's the point I was trying to make with my post, sorry if it wasn't conveyel clearly.

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