A prediction after reading some news

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by offiss

Hopefully it's arrington, but Abraham's heart has been questioned in his carreer, I don't know if he's the kind of person Gibbs is looking for?

Ok his hearth hasn't been question he didn't play in the playoffs 2 years ago because he was hurth and he didn't had a contract and didn't wanted to risk further injury when he didn't knew he will get resign it was a bussiness decision

we as fan might not like it but I understand his point of view imagine he plays and agrevates the injury maybe to the point that he has to sit the next year or at least 8 month... no franchise tag, no signing bonus no nothing I'm sorry but it's his carrier if it ends early they don't have anything else going.... it's like the center of minesota this year Brith i think his name is he had an hernia needed surgery he said he would play hurth if the team warrenty his salary for the 2006 season the team didn't want 2 do that so he went to IR is passion but it also bussines they don't want to take risk if it going to mean no salary next year.

BIG C ud rather trade arrington than ramsey?? franchising abraham would mean he would hav a big cap number, bad news

The franchise tag is only to secure the player before the trade it mean squad once he is traded because the team the signs him allready has agreed with the player for a long term contract.

It just buys the team more time to make it happend and not lose him in FA and get nothing for him

but it's true he wants big time money, money you don't have so I don't see it happening and I also believe losing ramsey is way better than losing LA.

ANd with the CBA not sign yet you can only spred a singing bonus for 4 years that hurths the chances of a long term big contract

[backrow]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok his hearth hasn't been question he didn't play in the playoffs 2 years ago because he was hurth and he didn't had a contract and didn't wanted to risk further injury when he didn't knew he will get resign it was a bussiness decision

we as fan might not like it but I understand his point of view imagine he plays and agrevates the injury maybe to the point that he has to sit the next year or at least 8 month... no franchise tag, no signing bonus no nothing I'm sorry but it's his carrier if it ends early they don't have anything else going.... it's like the center of minesota this year Brith i think his name is he had an hernia needed surgery he said he would play hurth if the team warrenty his salary for the 2006 season the team didn't want 2 do that so he went to IR is passion but it also bussines they don't want to take risk if it going to mean no salary next year.




The franchise tag is only to secure the player before the trade it mean squad once he is traded because the team the signs him allready has agreed with the player for a long term contract.

It just buys the team more time to make it happend and not lose him in FA and get nothing for him

but it's true he wants big time money, money you don't have so I don't see it happening and I also believe losing ramsey is way better than losing LA.

ANd with the CBA not sign yet you can only spred a singing bonus for 4 years that hurths the chances of a long term big contract

Can someone provide us with a Nowegian/brokeback cowboy translation for the above? My spell check just will not correct it! Maybe it's the lack of punctuation, but I can't be sure. Do the schools in brokeback-cowboy land teach punctuation?

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

John Abraham will be franchised by the Jets on Feb. 23 and then will be traded to the Redskins for Patrick Ramsey or Lavar Arrington straight up. We have been tade partners with the Jets before and I can see the same thing happening again.

it would seem to make some sense
but you never know

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by offiss

Hopefully it's arrington, but Abraham's heart has been questioned in his carreer, I don't know if he's the kind of person Gibbs is looking for?

that and the fact that every time something bothers him he goes public with his complaints

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Big C

ud rather trade arrington than ramsey?? franchising abraham would mean he would hav a big cap number, bad news

i do not think it will happen unless the skins and abraham can reach some kind of understanding as to what a long term deal would look like.. same as with moss

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by skinnyfan

We don't have the money to pay Abraham, which is exactly what he wants.....P......A......I.......D. PAID. And the Jets would be stupid to trade Abraham for Ramsey.......staight up......or Arrington for that matter. Keep dreaming man because that is exactly what this trade would be.

the jets are 30 mil over the cap and have major problems at qb. keeping abraham happy has proved to be elusive for them. they need to close the book on him and move on

[D'BOYZ]

Backrow

Look man I'm from mexico English isn't my mother lenguage, if you can translate any thought of yours in fluent spanish I take my hat off but comming from a guy that doesn't have anything smart to say I don't expect much... If I remmeber correctly this is a football Skins Forum we come here to talk FOOTBALL this ain't a gramar test so if you have anything interesting to add FOOTBALL wise again I guess I'm asking to much,I will be more than happy to repply if not, keep your tought 2 yourself

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If Rivers isn't ready to play at this point they're really in trouble.

brees might be ready.. if not, you are correct that rivers better be ready. so i see no trade for him for the time being

[BigSKINBauer]

i wouldn't trade lavar AND ramsey for that junxt . Now if we are talking draft picks i am all ears.


What could the skins sell ramsey and arrington together and seperately for in terms of draft picks?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

i wouldn't trade lavar AND ramsey for that junxt . Now if we are talking draft picks i am all ears.


What could the skins sell ramsey and arrington together and seperately for in terms of draft picks?

I'd be very happy with a 3rd rounder for Ramsey, but I'd take a 4th and like it. For Arrington I'd want a 2nd rounder, but I'd take a 3rd and like it.

There's no way you'd ever find a team that would take both Ramsey and Arrington at the same time. The NFL just doesn't work like that.

[BigSKINBauer]

I would trade Ramsey then but not arrington. NOT ARRINGTON!!! so we aren't ever gonna be able to package them together? What about a superduper trade. Our 3rd, ramsey, and arrington for their first and abraham. as you can see i suck at trade talk but put up a scenerio and i will say if i like it or not and abraham for arrington is no good for me.

[diehardskin2982]

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=11019

My link... it not saying anything but that its exspected that Jets will franchise him. But I could see this situation turning out like this because

A: It was rumored on ESPN that there was going to be a trade Ramsey for Abraham earlier in the season.

B: The deal could happen, it would be like the Champ for Portis deal. Numbers can always be worked out to fit under the cap.

C: Why would the jets do it?~ To get something for a person they would otherwise just lose for nothing in the offseason.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

C: Why would the jets do it?~ To get something for a person they would otherwise just lose for nothing in the offseason.

In addition to the fact that Pennington is a huge question mark for this season and, basically, the rest of his career. Some experts are saying that his arm will never be as strong as it once was, others are saying it will take a very long time (more than one season or two) to get back to normal. So, Patrick Ramsey is not only a good short term option, but could also prove to be the long term solution. You never really know, Ramsey could have a great season and supplant Pennington or he could have a mediocre season and then be replaced by him. I think the deal would make since from the Jets standpoint because I heard a NY writer on Sirius saying there's no way they can pick at #5 and keep Abraham, they have to unload one or the other.

[That Guy]

JA is too expensive for our current situation. DE is a second need to WR, and while WR #2 and our draft picks wont cost much, a long term deal for JA would mean cutting people next year when his number explodes or this year. He's not a great charcter guy and he's not even a good character guy. He whines to the media, and gibbs HATES that.

[jdlea]

I gotta disagree, I think that DE should be the #1 priority. I think Patten will be fine if he and Brunell get together and develop some chemistry. I think depth at WR is the issue. I think this team needs a new starter at RE and we should move Daniels to LE. Wynn just isn't a very good football player, I think he's a great guy and he like his versatility, I just don't think he's a starter in these league.

If the Skins had a legit threat at DE the D would be insane. I think the offense should be concerned with getting more #3 and #4 wide receiver types. Possibly, a big, possession receiver, if they come cheap, but IMO DE is a far greater concern.