70Chip Presents the #56Fanatic "Does LaVar Deserve Special Treament" Poll

[70Chip]

If Greg Williams and Dale Lindsey determine that Lavar can be a solid contributor for the next few years , then we should do whatever is necessary to ease his cap burden and keep him here. If they believe his best days are behind him, then they should cut him loose unless keeping him for say, one more year somehow benefits our cap.

Any sentimental or heartstring type b.s. should not be considered when dealing with any personel decision. Those days ended when #28 retired (and well before that for all the other numbers) This is a league wher Joe Montana was let go by the 49ers. Where Emmitt Smith became a Cardinal. Jerry Rice was cut in pre-season by the Broncos. Art Monk, my God, Art Monk played for the gd Eagles. No special treatment.

BTW. Why is it that three seperate Lavar threads are booming while may brilliant, insightful post regarding the League of 9 Extraordinary Gentleman is ignored. I think it's because the anti-Lavarites enjoy hearing the pro-Lavarites make verbal googly eyes. I lova Lavara soa mucha. I can'ta liva without hima.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by offiss

I think the Skins have been more loyal to Lavar than he has to them. Has Lavar lived up to his contract? NO! Has he lived up to the elite status that a #2 pick in the draft should be? NO! And the fact that Lavar has been grossly overpaid he has the nerve to make a major stink about another 6 mil that he never had coming to begin with, as if the 68 mil wasen't double what he was worth to begin with, kind of like knocking off fort knox, and then going back to accuse someone of lifting your wallet.

Lavar has proven this much, he can easily be replaced by the likes of Lamar Marshall, and Chris Clemons, kind of funny we start winning as soon as Lavar hits the bench, so far he's shown we can lose with him, and win without him. You don't win football games because you have charisma, you win by playing smart football, that's something Lavar has yet to prove.

dude, what are you talking about? Did he play his ass off before being injured? YES. did he put up pro-bowl numbers every year? YES. He had major knee injury that forced him out for basically two years. And to say about winning, our defense started playing alot better when he was in the games full time, if him being on the bench helped, I do believe Williams would have kept him there. Fact was, williams knew LaVar deserved, and earned PT. As he proved again the second half and in the playoffs, when he was as close to 100% as hes been in two years. Are you kidding me with this Clemons crap?, he is a 3rd down player, if he was any kind of player wouldn't he have been infront of Holdman. Hey, Danny gave him that money, LaVar signed the contract. Has Danny ever overpaid anybody? I believe about almost all the free agents he has signed have been overpaid compared to what other players with their stats generally get. This contract thing was dropped by LaVar, the Player Association did not drop it, hense the law suit against his agent filed by the PA. Get your facts straight before talking. of course I am going to be the LAVAR LOVER, bla bla bla, doesn't matter! I would stick up for any player on the team that deserved it.

[BigSKINBauer]

lavar is the man. I want him here. does he deserve "Special" treatment? no

[SmootSmack]

I'd like to hear what those who have voted "yes" have to say

[jordanz301]

im the first to vote yes.......even tho i agree witht hte fact that the team comes before the player, but a couple yrs ago he was the face of our franchise, he was good when we sucked and hes good now that were good, aanyone who was ever the face of the franchise should get BETTER* treatment than a player who just "showup." also he got that big a contract b.c "HE CAN PLAY"..... he performed this season even after the problems he had with coaches and front office....( contract greivence, being benched, media, comming off season ending injury) he deserved his pay............honestly how many big plays have u seen holdman make?......hes jst an average person who plug the gaps when he was supposed to. when LA was in he made big plays...he had more TFL then any redskin on the team this season and he oplayed 1/3 of a season.......

Year Team GP/GS T S Sack PD FF FR INT Yds TD
2005 Redskins 13/8 53 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2004 Redskins 4/2 18 10 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
2003 Redskins 16/16 116 71 6 10 7 2 0 0 0
2002 Redskins 16/16 107 73 11 8 4 3 0 0 0
2001 Redskins 14/14 118 76 0.5 6 0 2 3 120 1
2000 Redskins 16/11 73 53 4 4 0 0 0 0 0
Total 79/67 467 335 22.5 30 11 7 3 120 1

2005: Arrington played in 13 games and started eight, recording 53 tackles (45 solo). He also started two games in the playoffs, recording 12 tackles and one interception with a 21-yard return.
(http://www.redskins.com/team/profile)

these stats show that the guy can play.....look at his sack column in 03' when he was 100% he has the ability to make the big play! hes fast, he can hit, he can get off his blocks, the only thing that slows him down is his so called "freelancing" and this season since he did a lot better job executing the play call, he didnt make the big plays he usually did when "freelancing".........work with LA! work with him to rework his contract..........this guy is a "core guy" as u guys love to ssay and love for gibbs to have........you want "core guy" its this guy...........micheal irvin used to run his mouth to the media also look at him now.....what im trying to say is no ones perfect and this guy talks with, and plays with emotion.........

[Warpath]

I love Lavar as much as the next guy, but he does not deserve anything special. Business is business and nothing is personal. People like Lavar get cut every year from their football team. Will I miss him, YES.

[BigSKINBauer]

He should be on this team and he won't be getting special treatment. Lavar will be a pro bowler again. I don't get understand all that CBA stuff but if lavar will restructure it isn't anything "special"; it will be deserved. Its not like because he was the face of the team he will be getting a new contract but rather because he has the ability to be the face of the team in the future. Lavar is the man.

[jordanz301]

thank you

[diehardskin2982]

yes, he has done nothing but has been a good player for the skins. he gets hurt and people turn their back on him... when we were terrible he said he wanted to stay a skin for life and continues to say it now. he should not be traded for Ray Lewis on anyone else for that matter

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Some say that LaVar deserves better (perhaps special) treatment because he's been with us through the lean years and was once our best player. (and may still be if he could stay healthy). LaVar has been loyal and we should show him we'll go the extra mile for him.

Others say...so what. Bottom line is we were bad and now we're better and we've shown that we can win without him and his huge salary. We need to do what's best for the Redskins, not LaVar

What sayest thou?

(Thanks to TheMalcolmConnection for inspiring me to start another thread about LaVar)

I'm not sure if you’re trying to be humorous...if so I missed the joke. No one is saying that Lavar deserves to be placed above the team...the fact of the matter is that we don't know the real story behind Lavar and fans shouldn't be so quick to draw conclusion.

"Treated better"...No...How about being treated like a person; a human being!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I'm not sure if you’re trying to be humorous...if so I missed the joke. No one is saying that Lavar deserves to be placed above the team...the fact of the matter is that we don't know the real story behind Lavar and fans shouldn't be so quick to draw conclusion.

"Treated better"...No...How about being treated like a person; a human being!

Well there have been posts in the past that talk about how he's meant so much to the team, and he's the face of the organization, and remember how he was our best player back in 2002. Some quotes from TheWarpath.net:

"For all the Lavar Bashers...I'm not sure where all the negativity towards Lavar is coming from but it is not deserved. This guy has been the face of our franchise since he came on board and is guilty of nothing but wanting to win."

"Who cares about what he makes...he must of done something right to recieve the contract in the first place. As I stated before...it's not our place as fans to worry about what a player makes and rather he deserves it or not. If he is "overpaid", consider it compensation for all the BS that everyone has been putting him through."

"The man gave our defense an attitude and ferocity back when the 'skins were a struggling team."

"He was the face of the organization through thick and thin, during those bad years. He wants to be a Redskin for life. LOYALTY, us fans bitch about loyalty, that the players are here for the money, they have no loyalty. This guy has more loyalty to the Redskins than I have ever seen out of todays players."

And all I'm saying is should that matter? I think truthfully it's a factor, but it should not be the deciding factor. But for those that believe (and I'm pretty sure there are quite a few who do) that we "owe" LaVar something all I'm asking is why?

[GoSkins!]

I think that we should keep Lavar because he likes apple pie... my favorite.

[skinsguy]

No he doesn't deserve special treatment. Do I want him off the team? No, I can't say I do. I think Lavar is a shell of what he used to be, but I believe that probably has to do with all the playing time he missed with being injured. I'd give him another healthy season to make my decision on Lavar.

[MTK]

Poor LaVar.

Give me a break, I can't believe people actually fall for his sad sack routine.

[That Guy]

those that say yes are mainly argueing an emotional attachment. his contract is horrible and he runs to the media to whine too much. If you give him special treatment than moss needs it too, and portis, and taylor, and....

moss and taylor are playing WAY above their contracts, have started every game, haven't whined to the media and have consistantly been more concerned with winning than playing time. of all the people on the team, lavar deserves nothing because he hasn't really played in two years and he's complained to the media every other week.

as for loyalty, you realize he's gotten MILLIONS to ride the bench and has 12mill more this year. he's been paid for his loyalty, and its killing the team due to the cap concerns its brought.

and you CANNOT rework his contract without a new CBA. If it isn't signed lavar's contract (danny's fault, not his) will single handedly nuke the roster.