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View Poll Results: Who is the Redskins best free agent acquisition?
Carter 81 39.51%
Lloyd 34 16.59%
Randle El 64 31.22%
Archuleta 19 9.27%
Dockery (tendered RFA) 7 3.41%
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Old 03-16-2006, 07:58 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins best free agent move

I voted Carter. On an attacking D like we run he should be a huge factor even if he doesn't get 10+ sacks which I think he will do. He is going to demand double teams in pass protection which should open things up for Griff, Daniels and the blitzers. Griffin and Daniels are both decent pass rushers if not doubled which they have been the past two years(when Daniels played). If healthy this D-line should be hugely improved in rushing the passer.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:10 AM   #2
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Re: Redskins best free agent move

I take Dockery. I thought he had a solid year last year, and will get better. He's the youngest of the o-lineman and has the most upside potential. I think his signing alone will go along way in making this the most solid and cohesive unit on the team.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:24 AM   #3
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Re: Redskins best free agent move

I think both Carter and Randle El were huge for us. We need the pass rush DE of Carter and the versitility of Randle El's WR/PR/KR skills not to mention his runs out of the backfield, his throwing ability, speed, and his hands. Both were big but since our D was pretty good last year, I voted Randle El. Don't get me wrong Lloyd was big to, hes just not as versitile as Randle El and to me Lloyd is still mostly unproven.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:25 AM   #4
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I'm in the Randle-El camp. You look at his stats and they're unimpressive. Just like Santana Moss's were with the Jets the year before we got him. Until you get to the Yards Per Catch number. Moss was in the 18 range, tops in the league. But Randle-El isn't far off from that, sitting at 15.9.

That's a key number. The total catches and yards that a receiver puts up are a function of the times a team throws to him, more than anything. Randle-El was good enough to handle a much bigger workload there, but they had better options in that amazing running game and Hines Ward. But the Yards Per Catch says it all, when he got the chance he made big plays. Same theory applied to Moss, and we know how that turned out. The Redskins saw big-play ability in his 18 yards per catch, and just figured out how to use him better than the Jets did.

I'm not saying Randle-El is going to blow up like Moss. But I think he's going to have a big impact on our passing game. And he'll give defensive coordinators absolute fits trying to scheme for him throughout the week. And just as Moss helped Portis, this move will help Portis even more.

Plus he returns punts. And returns them very well.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:48 AM   #5
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I'm in the Randle-El camp. You look at his stats and they're unimpressive. Just like Santana Moss's were with the Jets the year before we got him. Until you get to the Yards Per Catch number. Moss was in the 18 range, tops in the league. But Randle-El isn't far off from that, sitting at 15.9.

That's a key number. The total catches and yards that a receiver puts up are a function of the times a team throws to him, more than anything. Randle-El was good enough to handle a much bigger workload there, but they had better options in that amazing running game and Hines Ward. But the Yards Per Catch says it all, when he got the chance he made big plays. Same theory applied to Moss, and we know how that turned out. The Redskins saw big-play ability in his 18 yards per catch, and just figured out how to use him better than the Jets did.

I'm not saying Randle-El is going to blow up like Moss. But I think he's going to have a big impact on our passing game. And he'll give defensive coordinators absolute fits trying to scheme for him throughout the week. And just as Moss helped Portis, this move will help Portis even more.

Plus he returns punts. And returns them very well.
moss had a 1000 yard year before he came here. randle el hasn't really gotten over 600. Not saying he can't beat it, but now with 4-5 legit receiving threats it'll be hard.
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moss had a 1000 yard year before he came here. randle el hasn't really gotten over 600. Not saying he can't beat it, but now with 4-5 legit receiving threats it'll be hard.
But it's the fact that we have 4 legit receiving threats that will make our offense so much more productive. And Randle-El adds more than just another legit receiving threat, he adds punt returns and trick plays.

I'm not saying he will duplicate Moss (which I stated in my original post), but his impact will be enormous, especially in the ripple effects it creates for the entire offense. With him on the field, Portis could blow away all previous Redskin records for RBs.

Carter is a very valuable addition as well. But if you're going to doubt Randle-El for not putting up a 1000 yard season, by the same token you have to be concerned that Carter hasn't surpassed 10 sacks since 2002. Randle-El's versatility will help us more than anyone else.
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But it's the fact that we have 4 legit receiving threats that will make our offense so much more productive. And Randle-El adds more than just another legit receiving threat, he adds punt returns and trick plays.

I'm not saying he will duplicate Moss (which I stated in my original post), but his impact will be enormous, especially in the ripple effects it creates for the entire offense. With him on the field, Portis could blow away all previous Redskin records for RBs.

Carter is a very valuable addition as well. But if you're going to doubt Randle-El for not putting up a 1000 yard season, by the same token you have to be concerned that Carter hasn't surpassed 10 sacks since 2002. Randle-El's versatility will help us more than anyone else.
as a DE he averages 8 sacks a year, and an LB, its 4.5
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:24 PM   #8
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as a DE he averages 8 sacks a year, and an LB, its 4.5
good point, after reading the wp article today it makes sense that his sack #s dropped off, he was playing out of position at LB, and peterson was their weakside guy who was blitzing more.
his downside is his run stopping, but I'm not too worried about that. Can't wait to see how quick this defense gets to the ball!
on O, I'm worried about Loyd too, hope the other guys can keep him level. Players often get into little spats over things when the team sucks, maybe it was the losing that made his actions look worse.
Next priority, sign Dock to a 4-5 yr. deal, we need to keep this o-line in tact.
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Re: Redskins best free agent move

Lloyd is the better player long term than Randle-el.
Carter will have the biggest immediate impact.

The thing that I like about this purge is that except for Fauria, all of these guys are young and have their best days ahead of them. I guarantee that at least two (if not all of them) of these guys will be studs.
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Re: Redskins best free agent move

Does anyone else feel nervous about Lloyd? Tony K pointed out his excuse for not feeling welcomed in SF was people weren't "feeling my style". Also if you watch the interview with carter he all but says he didn't like the man.

Just seems to have some maturity issues.
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Does anyone else feel nervous about Lloyd? Tony K pointed out his excuse for not feeling welcomed in SF was people weren't "feeling my style". Also if you watch the interview with carter he all but says he didn't like the man.

Just seems to have some maturity issues.
we knew that going in and some of us complained loudly :/

we just have to hope it got left in san fran or winning will fix it. but he sounded like a guy that laughed after losses (which tends to piss people off). Carter though, seems like an absolute stand up guy (actually he came off as a typical piano dork, only much much bigger).
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:58 PM   #12
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Does anyone else feel nervous about Lloyd? Tony K pointed out his excuse for not feeling welcomed in SF was people weren't "feeling my style". Also if you watch the interview with carter he all but says he didn't like the man.

Just seems to have some maturity issues.

What is important Carter choose to come here knowing Lloyd was going to be his team-mate again. He had other options, so obviously he didn't think he was so much of a distraction he could no longer be on the same team with him. Further, Lloyd will not be laughing after a loss on a JG coached team, his first laugh will be his last.
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Does anyone else feel nervous about Lloyd? Tony K pointed out his excuse for not feeling welcomed in SF was people weren't "feeling my style". Also if you watch the interview with carter he all but says he didn't like the man.

Just seems to have some maturity issues.
The best part with Lloyd if he does cause problems we have enough depth to bench or cut him. My vote is for El because he should get more chances touching the ball. If we use him on punt and KO and then as a receiver he sould produce some nice numbers. Does anyone remember the last player we had that was this versatile?
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The best part with Lloyd if he does cause problems we have enough depth to bench or cut him. My vote is for El because he should get more chances touching the ball. If we use him on punt and KO and then as a receiver he sould produce some nice numbers. Does anyone remember the last player we had that was this versatile?
brian mitchell. Played QB in the body bag game (1 drive, ending with a TD), 23k return yards... some running and catching. was also on the team forever.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:47 AM   #15
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I went with Randle El based on his versatility... he's basically like picking up 3 players all in one.
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