Weight Of Division Record

ArtMonkDrillz · 05-10-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Damn, we all just gang-raped Grillz. LOL

it's like juvie all over again

. I knew I wasn't that clever.

Daseal · 05-10-2006, 11:56 AM

I agree with the above poster, pretty much everyone in our division plays the same teams, I like how it's setup now.

Schneed10 · 05-10-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I got into an arguement with a random Vag-iants (I just came up with that one and I'm very proud) fan over this a couple of months ago. He randomly started talking shit to me because of my Skins hat at a bar even though (at the time) we were still in the playoffs and they had been shut out at home by Carolina. He tried to say they had such a great season b/c they won the division, but he wouldn't listen to my arguement that we had a better division/playoff record.

I honestly believe that if you go 6-10 with your only wins coming against division teams, you should have every right to claim the division championship. If the other teams couldn't beat you at least once, are they really that much better?

division.

This argument makes no sense to me. We don't just play the 6 games within the division, we also play 8 other games against opponents that each of the NFC East teams also has to play. That makes 14 games against common opponents, and each one is a fair measuring stick to use to compare to your division.

Division champion based on six games??? Are you guys crazy? That would render the other 10 games of the season almost meaningless. There are 12 playoff spots, 8 of which are reserved for division champs.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 05-10-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

it's like juvie all over again

. I knew I wasn't that clever.

But you still came up with it on your own without seeing it anywhere, right? You didn't know it was already around, so you can feel good about that.

warriorzpath · 05-10-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Sorry Grillz, that reference is old unfortunately. If there's a hilarious name to call the other teams, we've all thought of it.

I always liked the OBGYants.

The ones I like for the division teams are:
Gay-Ain'ts
Dall-Asses
E-Girls

MTK · 05-10-2006, 12:14 PM

It's fine as it is now... imagine having a division winner with less overall wins than the 2nd place team?? That would be a real head scratcher. With only 6 division games, it would place way too much emphasis on those games.

crlesh · 05-10-2006, 12:19 PM

I never advocated basing the championship soley on divisional record... rather wanted to see if others thought there was merit in giving some weight to divisional record as a separate entity.

Divisional rivalries might become overemphasized, however. Some good thoughts being thrown out.

BigSKINBauer · 05-10-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Maybe at 1000...500 is too insignificant to honor him with.

yes, you are reaching that 1000 mark rather quickly so the 500 mark is considered to miniscule to bother THE BSB with. I will be watching at 1000, yet today I don't know why I feel like I should be honored, almost like it is a special day... HMMMM.

SmootSmack · 05-10-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

yes, you are reaching that 1000 mark rather quickly so the 500 mark is considered to miniscule to bother THE BSB with. I will be watching at 1000, yet today I don't know why I feel like I should be honored, almost like it is a special day... HMMMM.

Today is a very special day...Happy Birthday Itvnetop!!!!! Woooh!!!!

Happy Birthday to you as well BSB

BigSKINBauer · 05-10-2006, 12:42 PM

no, i like the fact that we play the same teams as our competition outside of 2 games and it makes more than just 6 games important but those six are still extremely important because you can serve up a loss to someone.

I do think the season could be extended though. Add 1 more bye take away 2 pre season games and play 2 more games every year agaist 2 teams of the 6 that are not played in the conference. If 4 games could be added I would say play 1 full division in each conference and 1 game in the other 5 conferences plus 6 inside the division games being 8+6+6=20 games. ehhh, 20 might be to much but I would like 2 more games a year. The off season is just to long.

BigSKINBauer · 05-10-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Today is a very special day...Happy Birthday Itvnetop!!!!! Woooh!!!!

Happy Birthday to you as well BSB

Thanks, but I almost forgot it was my birthday, being Itvnetop's today too. YAY ITVNETOP!!!!

ArtMonkDrillz · 05-10-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's fine as it is now... imagine having a division winner with less overall wins than the 2nd place team?? That would be a real head scratcher. With only 6 division games, it would place way too much emphasis on those games.

But the way it is now, a team can go 10-6, losing all of their divisional games, and they could still win the division based on overall record. That makes no sense either, IMO.

dmek25 · 05-10-2006, 12:56 PM

itvnetop and bsb,happy bday!

BigSKINBauer · 05-10-2006, 12:58 PM

thanks dmek

MTK · 05-10-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

But the way it is now, a team can go 10-6, losing all of their divisional games, and they could still win the division based on overall record. That makes no sense either, IMO.

Of course that could happen, but chances are pretty slim.

Even if that did happen, I wouldn't have a problem with that vs. a team going 6-10 and winning the division.

05-10-2006, 11:56 AM	#17
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Weight Of Division Record I agree with the above poster, pretty much everyone in our division plays the same teams, I like how it's setup now. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Weight Of Division Record It's fine as it is now... imagine having a division winner with less overall wins than the 2nd place team?? That would be a real head scratcher. With only 6 division games, it would place way too much emphasis on those games. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-10-2006, 12:19 PM	#22
crlesh Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Age: 50 Posts: 142	Re: Weight Of Division Record I never advocated basing the championship soley on divisional record... rather wanted to see if others thought there was merit in giving some weight to divisional record as a separate entity. Divisional rivalries might become overemphasized, however. Some good thoughts being thrown out.

05-10-2006, 12:42 PM	#25
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Weight Of Division Record no, i like the fact that we play the same teams as our competition outside of 2 games and it makes more than just 6 games important but those six are still extremely important because you can serve up a loss to someone. I do think the season could be extended though. Add 1 more bye take away 2 pre season games and play 2 more games every year agaist 2 teams of the 6 that are not played in the conference. If 4 games could be added I would say play 1 full division in each conference and 1 game in the other 5 conferences plus 6 inside the division games being 8+6+6=20 games. ehhh, 20 might be to much but I would like 2 more games a year. The off season is just to long.

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dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Weight Of Division Record itvnetop and bsb,happy bday! __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Weight Of Division Record thanks dmek

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