Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?

GTripp0012 · 05-31-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I was having this discussion with some friends earlier.. Make an argument that the Redskins aren't the most balanced team with the least number of question marks going into training camp. Here's my case:
Offense-Brunell is the popular punching bag, but when healthy he was very effective in '05. WR corp was upgraded, line is the best in the division, Portis is proven.

Defense-Ryan Clark and Renaldo Wynn are the only every down starters replaced because Arrington was taken out on 3rd downs and Carter/Archuleta are clear upgrades. The only true question mark is McIntosh at WLB since he is a rookie.

Cowboys question marks-OL, RB health, TO (off field questions aside, he's only played in 16 games once since '99), secondary

Eagle question marks-WR!!!, OL health, secondary, OLB

Giants question marks-QB consistency, secondary, WR consistency

The Skins are easily the most balanced team in the league. That alone will not net a championship, but it's a good place to start.

That Guy · 06-01-2006, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Skins are easily the most balanced team in the league. That alone will not net a championship, but it's a good place to start.

broncos, colts, steelers, seahawks.

mcalderone10 · 06-01-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

broncos, colts, steelers, seahawks.

agree with everyone except the colts. W/o edge they have a HUGE Question mark?

GTripp0012 · 06-02-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mcalderone10

agree with everyone except the colts. W/o edge they have a HUGE Question mark?

Obviously I don't agree with any of them or I wouldn't have made the statement. The Broncos have Stars and holes. Little in between. Thats not balance. The Steelers are without offensive identity right now, which is important. I do believe that they will finish the best of the 4 teams listed. Mcalderone said it best about the Colts. Also the defense is a question mark whenever it plays good O's. It needs to generate turnovers for that team to be successful. The seahawks have yet to prove that their D can get it done. That playoff D did well, but they were playing the beat up Skins and one dimensional Panthers. So I don't think they are more balanced than us, but rather a close 2nd.

All teams have weaknesses, some more than others, but if you have balance, you can always rely on another part of your game to make up for injuries, drops in production and other unforseen events.

Giantone · 06-01-2006, 08:51 PM

Questions on the Skins ........

1) OL...very suspect

2) QB...age , health ,ability

3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns .

4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ?

5) DB's ...health

6) DE's ???

....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

DCsports · 06-01-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Questions on the Skins ........

1) OL...very suspect

2) QB...age , health ,ability

3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns .

4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ?

5) DB's ...health

6) DE's ???

....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

OL will hold, we got 1 or 2 years left outta Brunell, working on kicking game and are returns are fine now becasue we have Thrash and Randel El, DBS- Spring will be questionable but i think he will hold up along w/ rodgers, and DE's are improvong

And don't question our OL: THE Randy Thomas and NO thumbed Janson are superb

MTK · 06-01-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Questions on the Skins ........

1) OL...very suspect

2) QB...age , health ,ability

3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns .

4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ?

5) DB's ...health

6) DE's ???

....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

Just one gripe here, the OL is far from being "very suspect".

Samuels was a Pro Bowler last year, and Thomas and Jansen are two of the more underrated lineman in the league who perform at Pro Bowl levels but never get the cred they deserve. Rabach and Dockery are both solid as well. This was a line that helped crank out a 1500 yard rusher and helped produce a 1400+ yard WR.

Darrell_Green_28 · 06-02-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Questions on the Skins ........

1) OL...very suspect

2) QB...age , health ,ability

3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns .

4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ?

5) DB's ...health

6) DE's ???

....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

I don't understand #3.. normally Both = 2, correct? but then lists Punting AND Kickoffs AND Returns I count 3 things there.

Giantone · 06-03-2006, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

I don't understand #3.. normally Both = 2, correct? but then lists Punting AND Kickoffs AND Returns I count 3 things there.

1) Field goals ..pretty good
2)Kickoffs........not bad ,need more downed in the end zone
3)Kickoff returns ....better starting average
4)Punter ..better hang time and placement = better coverage and less return yards.
5)Punt returns need more return yards from your guys and better pressure on the other teams punter .

That Guy · 06-02-2006, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Questions on the Skins ........

1) OL...very suspect

2) QB...age , health ,ability

3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns .

4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ?

5) DB's ...health

6) DE's ???

....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

what are you talking about? our O line is in no way suspect, especially compared to the rest of the NFC east. our coverage was crazy last year and our return game wasn't bad with below average returners (ie, not Randle-El).

our DEs were solid last year and didn't hurt the team (even if they didn't have much pass rush), and both of last years starters are returning (though one will be a backup now), so i wouldn't list that as a question mark either.

LRT · 06-01-2006, 05:14 AM

I think we certainly have the pieces in place to make a deep run into the playoffs. Our D should continue to be outstanding. If the O-line can keep Brunell upright and healthy (or if Campbell steps it up in camp and lives up to his potential) we should - with our improved receiver corps - have enough of a passing game to keep some holes open for Portis.

Our biggest vulnerabilities, I think, will be whether Brunell can get through the season at a high level of productivity (or whether Campbell can step in for him if needed) and the risk of injury on the O-line, where we are a little shallow.

That said, I do think we have good balance. On paper, I'd say the Skins are among a half dozen to eight teams that are serious contenders. Which two make it will depend on which ones catch that elusive "lightning in a bottle" that no one can predict.

Daseal · 06-01-2006, 07:38 AM

I think our biggest problem (but very close to QB) is DB. We have no depth. One injury and we have Ade Jimoh single covering Terry Glenn. That's not good news for us.

Also, I'm not convinced Archeletta is an upgrade over Ryan Clark. Clark certainly wasn't an all-star but he was a VERY VERY solid safety who the players loved. He made some really big plays and rarely blew one. ASrcheletta is going to rock people up, but hes going to be a bigger liability in coverage (not something we can afford right now) and lets see if he can go a season without getting 5 concussions.

GTripp0012 · 06-01-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think our biggest problem (but very close to QB) is DB. We have no depth. One injury and we have Ade Jimoh single covering Terry Glenn. That's not good news for us.

We have Kenny Wright now, so 2 injuries.

#56fanatic · 06-01-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think our biggest problem (but very close to QB) is DB. We have no depth. One injury and we have Ade Jimoh single covering Terry Glenn. That's not good news for us.

Also, I'm not convinced Archeletta is an upgrade over Ryan Clark. Clark certainly wasn't an all-star but he was a VERY VERY solid safety who the players loved. He made some really big plays and rarely blew one. ASrcheletta is going to rock people up, but hes going to be a bigger liability in coverage (not something we can afford right now) and lets see if he can go a season without getting 5 concussions.

Arch is a ton better than Clark. More physical, better tackler, faster, and probably the most fit player in the NFL. And clark stunk at coverage. Arch strength insn't his cover skills, but they are better than clarks. Plus he wont get run over in OT when the game is on the line.

MTK · 06-01-2006, 09:20 AM

My question is who has a better coaching staff in the East??

That's probably good for an additional 2-3 wins at least.

06-01-2006, 05:14 AM	#11
LRT Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 60 Posts: 174	Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East? I think we certainly have the pieces in place to make a deep run into the playoffs. Our D should continue to be outstanding. If the O-line can keep Brunell upright and healthy (or if Campbell steps it up in camp and lives up to his potential) we should - with our improved receiver corps - have enough of a passing game to keep some holes open for Portis. Our biggest vulnerabilities, I think, will be whether Brunell can get through the season at a high level of productivity (or whether Campbell can step in for him if needed) and the risk of injury on the O-line, where we are a little shallow. That said, I do think we have good balance. On paper, I'd say the Skins are among a half dozen to eight teams that are serious contenders. Which two make it will depend on which ones catch that elusive "lightning in a bottle" that no one can predict.

06-01-2006, 07:38 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East? I think our biggest problem (but very close to QB) is DB. We have no depth. One injury and we have Ade Jimoh single covering Terry Glenn. That's not good news for us. Also, I'm not convinced Archeletta is an upgrade over Ryan Clark. Clark certainly wasn't an all-star but he was a VERY VERY solid safety who the players loved. He made some really big plays and rarely blew one. ASrcheletta is going to rock people up, but hes going to be a bigger liability in coverage (not something we can afford right now) and lets see if he can go a season without getting 5 concussions. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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06-01-2006, 08:51 PM	#5
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,603	Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East? Questions on the Skins ........ 1) OL...very suspect 2) QB...age , health ,ability 3)Kicking game ....? both punting and Kickoffs and returns . 4)New coaching ,how will team react to new OC ? 5) DB's ...health 6) DE's ??? ....but as every team has done at least on paper it'seems that the Skins have improved some .

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