smoot's future

Daseal · 09-02-2006, 12:14 PM

3rd ID soldier -- find me one instance of Smoot badmouthing this organization. When he left DC he actually talked about how he LOVED DC and didn't want to leave. The Redskins refused to pay him (which was stupid, in my opinion) so he went to Minnesota where they offered him a very solid contract.

I'd love to have Smoot back in D.C. Especially with Rogers looking like he's just not quite ready (though I really like what I see, he just needs some more work on timing) and Springs injured/getting older.

Smoot was one of them few Redskins that thought like a fan. He openly admitted he hated the Dallas Cowboys, which in my book is enough to pay a player. We overpay all these free agents like Archelletta, Trotter, etc. Yet we can't offer a draft pick, solid starter, and a guy that loves the organization and team a decent contract because he would be getting paid more than our #1 corner? Welcome to the era of the salary cap, as the cap goes up, so do the salaries. Worst move Joe Gibbs made while in DC was letting Smoot walk.

MTK · 09-02-2006, 12:21 PM

Smoot just wasn't a good fit in this defense. GW likes corners that are physical and can hit. Smoot is not that type of corner.

Defensewins · 09-02-2006, 12:38 PM

Smoot is not a complete corner, so he is not deserving of #1 corner money. If Smoot does not rework his deal sometime in the near future, he will eventually be cut and replaced by somebody cheaper & with better skills.

I was never crazy about Smoot when he was here. I am glad we did not overpay to keep him a few years back.

Serviceable? Yes.

Great corner? No.

His skills are diminishing.
No need to hate the guy though.

mooby · 09-02-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd ID SOLDIER

riggo rules you are an idiot he talked so much shit about the redskins organization and he talks shit like he is a number 1 corner in the league but he was exposed he signed a deal worthy of a number 1 corner but can't tackle and if he were to be released the redskins would not take him back because greg williams knows he is a weak bitch that cant lay the wood the only thing he can do is run his mouth and the majority of you guys think he is a number 1 corner you guys can't be serious it is not hate it is tellin it like it is so for the ones that think i am crying keep it real if he were a redskin right now we would really be in trouble!

I think that's the longest sentence I've ever read. Why are you getting so worked up about one player that played for us two seasons ago? Move on man.

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-02-2006, 02:00 PM

does anyone besides me know what made fred smoot good when he was here? That answer is Champ Bailey. Champ covered most teams number one reciever and that left fred covering whoever else was out there.

3rd ID SOLDIER · 09-02-2006, 03:40 PM

thank you my point exactly it is nice to know that i am not in this by myself but i do see some of the points you guys did make about this but like i said time will reveal and i will be right afterall.

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-02-2006, 05:13 PM

hes proven himself in minnesota...not. all he's done there is gone on the sex cruise and got himself some legal problems. He's a bone head

itvnetop · 09-02-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

hes proven himself in minnesota...not. all he's done there is gone on the sex cruise and got himself some legal problems. He's a bone head

I think his "bone head" was the reason he threw the "love boat".

In all seriousness, I still like smooty... fun player to watch on and off the field.

dmek25 · 09-02-2006, 09:18 PM

dont get me started on champ overrated bailey. i saw all i needed last season when T.O. walked around bailey like he was an orange pylon for about an 80 yard touchdown. close to mike vick as far as being the nfl's most over rated player

charlielyons · 09-02-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

dont get me started on champ overrated bailey. i saw all i needed last season when T.O. walked around bailey like he was an orange pylon for about an 80 yard touchdown. close to mike vick as far as being the nfl's most over rated player

i totally agree with mike vick being the most overrated, i would love to have fred smoot back though he is a product of the system and him did williams system well.

3rd ID SOLDIER · 09-03-2006, 12:38 PM

until he was being stiff armed by a runningback!

STPainmaker · 09-03-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd ID SOLDIER

until he was being stiff armed by a runningback!

The premier running backs in this league will stiff arm any CB in this league. No cornerback is gonna lay out Larry Johnson or LaDanian. Smoot in our system would prove useful give us that extra few seconds of coverage to allow some of our blitzes to materialize. It remains to be seen .

All I know is I hope he looks like a turd on sept 11th.

skinsguy · 09-03-2006, 04:32 PM

Sorry, but I completely disagree with this thread. I thought Smoot was and still is a very good and serviceable starting corner. My opinion, I wished he was still here in D.C., but heck, I also wished Darrell Green was still here (in his prime mind you.)

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-03-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

dont get me started on champ overrated bailey. i saw all i needed last season when T.O. walked around bailey like he was an orange pylon for about an 80 yard touchdown. close to mike vick as far as being the nfl's most over rated player

be that as it may which the last season they were both here i like smoot outplayed bailey but bailey did primarily cover most teams number 1 reciever...so with that being said is smoot minnesota's top corner? i think the answer maybe no

That Guy · 09-06-2006, 04:51 AM

champ is over rated (he seems to figure out how to magically trip on the turf any time a WR beats him).

smoot is not the #1 in minn, its winfield. that doesn't mean he's terrible, but it really wouldn't be worth it for the skins to pay him what the viking were offering, unlike pierce.

09-02-2006, 12:14 PM	#16
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: smoot's future 3rd ID soldier -- find me one instance of Smoot badmouthing this organization. When he left DC he actually talked about how he LOVED DC and didn't want to leave. The Redskins refused to pay him (which was stupid, in my opinion) so he went to Minnesota where they offered him a very solid contract. I'd love to have Smoot back in D.C. Especially with Rogers looking like he's just not quite ready (though I really like what I see, he just needs some more work on timing) and Springs injured/getting older. Smoot was one of them few Redskins that thought like a fan. He openly admitted he hated the Dallas Cowboys, which in my book is enough to pay a player. We overpay all these free agents like Archelletta, Trotter, etc. Yet we can't offer a draft pick, solid starter, and a guy that loves the organization and team a decent contract because he would be getting paid more than our #1 corner? Welcome to the era of the salary cap, as the cap goes up, so do the salaries. Worst move Joe Gibbs made while in DC was letting Smoot walk. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-02-2006, 12:21 PM	#17
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: smoot's future Smoot just wasn't a good fit in this defense. GW likes corners that are physical and can hit. Smoot is not that type of corner. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-02-2006, 12:38 PM	#18
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: smoot's future Smoot is not a complete corner, so he is not deserving of #1 corner money. If Smoot does not rework his deal sometime in the near future, he will eventually be cut and replaced by somebody cheaper & with better skills. I was never crazy about Smoot when he was here. I am glad we did not overpay to keep him a few years back. Serviceable? Yes. Great corner? No. His skills are diminishing. No need to hate the guy though.

09-02-2006, 02:00 PM	#20
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 52 Posts: 806	Re: smoot's future does anyone besides me know what made fred smoot good when he was here? That answer is Champ Bailey. Champ covered most teams number one reciever and that left fred covering whoever else was out there. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

09-02-2006, 03:40 PM	#21
3rd ID SOLDIER Special Teams Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 197	Re: smoot's future thank you my point exactly it is nice to know that i am not in this by myself but i do see some of the points you guys did make about this but like i said time will reveal and i will be right afterall. __________________ YALL DON'T WANNA SEE ME SHINE THAT'S OKAY CAUSE I LOVE ME SOME ME BELIEVE IT!!

09-02-2006, 05:13 PM	#22
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 52 Posts: 806	Re: smoot's future hes proven himself in minnesota...not. all he's done there is gone on the sex cruise and got himself some legal problems. He's a bone head __________________ The future is obviously right now!

09-02-2006, 09:18 PM	#24
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: smoot's future dont get me started on champ overrated bailey. i saw all i needed last season when T.O. walked around bailey like he was an orange pylon for about an 80 yard touchdown. close to mike vick as far as being the nfl's most over rated player __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

09-03-2006, 12:38 PM	#26
3rd ID SOLDIER Special Teams Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 197	Re: smoot's future until he was being stiff armed by a runningback! __________________ YALL DON'T WANNA SEE ME SHINE THAT'S OKAY CAUSE I LOVE ME SOME ME BELIEVE IT!!

09-03-2006, 04:32 PM	#28
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: smoot's future Sorry, but I completely disagree with this thread. I thought Smoot was and still is a very good and serviceable starting corner. My opinion, I wished he was still here in D.C., but heck, I also wished Darrell Green was still here (in his prime mind you.) __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

09-06-2006, 04:51 AM	#30
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: smoot's future champ is over rated (he seems to figure out how to magically trip on the turf any time a WR beats him). smoot is not the #1 in minn, its winfield. that doesn't mean he's terrible, but it really wouldn't be worth it for the skins to pay him what the viking were offering, unlike pierce.

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