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Old 09-18-2006, 12:33 PM   #16
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Re: Let's talk defense

The only two guys strapping it on for the defense are Taylor and Marshall. Everyone else leaves a lot to be desired honestly.

I actually think Rumph and Wright will improve shortly. I honestly think they are going through some growing pains. But they are definitely nickel material as far as I can see.

I don't know what in the hell is going on with Andre Carter....Arch isn't far behind him. I don't know, but Carter just seems too quiet, if you know what I mean? He seems to lack intensity on the field. I never see him slapping pads or stomping on the ground or yelling...he just seems invisible out there.

The defense has seemed to lost it's swagger.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:36 PM   #17
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Yup, and it left with Ryan Clark who always layed the lumber. For being a "workout warrior" Archuleta sure doesn't hit people very hard. I always see him like using every bit of his strength just to drive someone out of bounds.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:39 PM   #18
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I knew Archuleta was going to break our hearts as soon as I saw the size of his contract. Speaking of which, if we don't extend Sean Taylor's before season's end, we're out of our minds!
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:39 PM   #19
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Does this all go back to the short summer camp and the light practices we had. I think the coaching staff took things to light this summer and it is effecting our play.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:41 PM   #20
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Did you bug my house? I said that to my dad, but I don't think I posted it. In fact, I had to put my computer away because I was afraid I would get mad and throw it across the room (turns out I've become numb to our crappy play and I didn't over-react).
I am your father...seriously though, I think you posted it
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:42 PM   #21
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he bugged your house.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:43 PM   #22
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Our defense is no way near as aggresive as they were last year. I don't remember us blitzing with any DBs last night. Could be wrong, though. Also, with all those three and outs the defense was just worn down which could explain our shitty tackling later in the game.

This is the problem I have with way we build a team. We give up draft picks to get these free agents and they don't pan out like we hoped they would. So now our obvious need is the D-line and no draft picks to pick up some young stud.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:50 PM   #23
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You must have missed the first game, Randle El is the only one who IS doing shit...

Yeah I saw the game
5 passes 34 yards
2 runs 7 yards
and 1 good punt return for 15 yards

Sorry Man this isn't bringging the SHIT in my book.... again the most average gimmik/PR in the game for 30+ mill.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:51 PM   #24
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This is the problem I have with way we build a team. We give up draft picks to get these free agents and they don't pan out like we hoped they would. So now our obvious need is the D-line and no draft picks to pick up some young stud.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:54 PM   #25
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You know what's funny? Our team played this bad last year for the first couple of games but somehow came up winners. Now we're 0-2 and I can't figure how the hell we beat anybody playing like this last year.

Oh and I thought the D was not great last night but wasn't nearly as bad as last week. Getting Springs back would help but we need to put some front 4 pressure on QBs to win.
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I just dont understand the lack of pressure. Last two years we have made our name on pressuring the QB. Now, Springs being out probably contributes to how many people we can bring on a blitz, but come on. I would try moving Carter to left side and let Daniels go back to his original RE spot. Generally team put their best pass blocker on the QB's blind side. Maybe moving him to the LE spot, he would go up a RT that isn't quite as good at pass blocking. I speak in overall terms when saying the LT is usually your best pass blocker. Holdman looks better than last year, but I think he still get taken out of the play too much. Teams have run against that side of the D pretty effectively. I think when springs gets back on the field, we will be able to bring some more people on the blitz and create a little more pressure.
I think, this all goes on the offense's shoulders. If they continue to go 3 and out, the D is getting worn out. we need those guys to stay fresh and play with a lead. GW is very good at playing with a lead, when teams have to throw the ball more.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:08 PM   #27
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Yeah I saw the game
5 passes 34 yards
2 runs 7 yards
and 1 good punt return for 15 yards

Sorry Man this isn't bringging the SHIT in my book.... again the most average gimmik/PR in the game for 30+ mill.
have you seen our QB play? his numbers are vastly deflated. he's the only one that looks useful for the 2006 haul thusfar.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:12 PM   #28
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I just dont understand the lack of pressure. Last two years we have made our name on pressuring the QB. Now, Springs being out probably contributes to how many people we can bring on a blitz, but come on. I would try moving Carter to left side and let Daniels go back to his original RE spot. Generally team put their best pass blocker on the QB's blind side. Maybe moving him to the LE spot, he would go up a RT that isn't quite as good at pass blocking. I speak in overall terms when saying the LT is usually your best pass blocker. Holdman looks better than last year, but I think he still get taken out of the play too much. Teams have run against that side of the D pretty effectively. I think when springs gets back on the field, we will be able to bring some more people on the blitz and create a little more pressure.
I think, this all goes on the offense's shoulders. If they continue to go 3 and out, the D is getting worn out. we need those guys to stay fresh and play with a lead. GW is very good at playing with a lead, when teams have to throw the ball more.
The defense sucks because of Brunell. It's his fault!
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:27 PM   #29
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--Andre Carter sucks. At the very least, he was supposed to draw double teams and open things up for Philip Daniels. HA!

--They've put all of their stock into Cornelius Griffin and given him absolutely no help. How many seasons were they expecting him to stop the run all by himself?

-- Drafting Rocky was a mistake. The same mentality the coaching staff has with regard to Mark Brunell, equally applied to Shawn Springs. They blindly thought they could endlessly rely on him, and now it's come back to bite them.

-- Yet another season went by without any thought of addressing the pass rush other than throwing money at a 49er castoff. And now because Shawn Springs is out, they have no ability whatsoever to apply pressure to the opposing quarterback -- because, you know, you have to have a shutdown corner to in order to get sacks. How's that for some backwards logic?
Drafting McIntosh does seems questionable now that we have Posey but, the ex-Bill wasn't available at the time. If Coach Williams is smart he'll try to replace Masrhall at the MLB spot. We need a CB who can cover. People talked about why we let Smoot go after giving Champ up. I think us not re-signing Clark was a bigger setback.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:31 PM   #30
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Drafting McIntosh does seems questionable now that we have Posey but, the ex-Bill wasn't available at the time. If Coach Williams is smart he'll try to replace Masrhall at the MLB spot. We need a CB who can cover. People talked about why we let Smoot go after giving Champ up. I think us not re-signing Clark was a bigger setback.
Yep, the Ryan Clark thing was a mistake. Add him to a long list of players that we develop and then refuse to keep in exchange for the high priced free agent. Brilliant.

Seriously though, who'd have thought that our pass rush was so dependent on ... Shawn Springs? Huh?
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