Do you want the Redskins to win?

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by mooby

wow. I don't even know what to say. Clearly a lesson in being a fan needs to be taught here. You never, under any circumstances, want your team to lose. Forget draft position. Do you think the Redskins actually care about the draft? Exactly. I want the Redskins to win every game from here on out by at least 20 points. I would love nothing better then to end this season on a high note. It's not about draft position or planning for the future. It's about pride. It's about bragging rights.

Do you have any pride in your team when they are 4-8? We have nothing to brag about here, and draft position means alot for our future pride.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If we went on the road would we be favored to beat Oak or Det? Probably not. We are no better than either of those teams. Ok maybe a little bit better. But not by much.

FYI we are favored over philly this week, granted the line is 1 1/2 points, but hey good news is good news.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Do you have any pride in your team when they are 4-8? We have nothing to brag about here, and draft position means alot for our future pride.

Yes, I have pride. A lot of pride actually. Nothing to brag about? We had some pretty incredible wins against Jacksonville and Dallas (ANY win against Dallas in the season is a cause for pride), hell, we even set an NFL passing completion record. I don't care about the draft, you don't win the draft with a blocked FG by Troy Vincent.

I think you need to take a good look at what kind of fan you are. I'm sure there are a bunch of bandwagons you can jump on. I will never root against the Skins.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Do you want the Redskins to win or lose? And if you are on the fence, say how much they have to win for you to want them to win (and they can't get farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs). Honestly, I don't want the Skins to go to the playoffs at all. I've basically given up on this year, I'm just not feelin the Skins this year, even if they make the playoffs, its like so what, we suck, this isn't going anywhere. I'd perfer us to get the best draft picks we can get so we have hope next year. BTW, I'm a skins fan till death, If they lose every game for the next 50 years, 51 years from now I'll be cheering them on untill it seems like they're done, like it is this season.

For the life of me I cannot understand what the hell you're talking about.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Next year when the Skins pick a stud with our high draft pick, or make a real good trade, you all are gonna be like, "yea I'm so happy we did this", but you all are gonna forget about the pointless games that we lost at the end of the season because those dont matter anymore. Our future is potentially decided by who we get in the draft, and nothing comes from pointless games.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

For the life of me I cannot understand what the hell you're talking about.

Forget about everything mentioned, I know its confusing, all I was trying to say is, would you perfer to win some pointless games at the end of the season, or get a significantly higher pick in the draft?

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Next year when the Skins pick a stud with our high draft pick, or make a real good trade, you all are gonna be like, "yea I'm so happy we did this", but you all are gonna forget about the pointless games that we lost at the end of the season because those dont matter anymore. Our future is potentially decided by who we get in the draft, and nothing comes from pointless games.

so basically tank the season for an unproven rookie? top picks can be busts just as easily as superstars... how can you actually root for a loss during a game? do you cheer the other team on every sunday?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

FYI we are favored over philly this week, granted the line is 1 1/2 points, but hey good news is good news.

Wow. I would assume that Phily would be 3. If I were not a diehard skins fan I would bet on Philly.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Do you have any pride in your team when they are 4-8? We have nothing to brag about here, and draft position means alot for our future pride.

Are we only supposed to have pride in our team when they are winning? To me, that seems quite fair weathered don't you think? I'm not calling you a fair weather fan and hope you don't take it as such. It is an honest question. I do understand what you are saying, but having pride in your favorite team goes deeper than their record sometimes. We all definitely want our team to win --- I hate watching my team lose, but we got into a tough position this year.

We have to stay the course (no I'm not getting this from President Bush) and work through our troubles. I believe that is how our Redskins grow as a team and becomes stronger. People nowadays want to be entertained and want their money's worth so bad, that they become quite impatient with the process. People expect results now, but it doesn't always happen that way. I've also heard it say, "well in today's NFL, results have to happen now!" Maybe that is true with some NFL owners, but alot of those owners who have been impatient (Dan Snyder in 2000 for example) have not been very successful.

While I will agree that I think we do need a good GM to help with personnel, I don't agree that we should blow this team up after three seasons, because someone decides that 3 is the magic number. Who the heck came up with that? Not that I want the process to take very long, but let's remember that good ol' Norv Turner finally got this team going in the right direction some 5 or 6 seasons after he was first hired to coach the skins. I still believe to this day that if Snyder would've kept that team together AND coaching staff, it would've progressed even further.

My point is, let us be patient. I do tend to have more patiences with a former HOF Redskins head coach than I probably would any other coach, but when it comes down to it, it's football and this guy knows how to coach to win. Give him just a little more time.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Root against the Skins? Maybe if sex were on the line - but even that's only a maybe, 'cause would you really want to have sex with a chick who would only do it if the Skins lost?

(I'd be in so much trouble if my wife read this forum)

Seriously, though - never. There are plenty of games where I've said they didn't deserve to win, but I still wanted them to win.

LOL! Yes. I live in Arlington too and with all the hot ass women down here there is plenty of temtation!

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

so basically tank the season for an unproven rookie? top picks can be busts just as easily as superstars... how can you actually root for a loss during a game? do you cheer the other team on every sunday?

Read my 2nd post, and top picks can be busts, 7th rounders can be superstars, but odds are the higher the pick, the higher the possibility of that unproven rookie being a superstar.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Next year when the Skins pick a stud with our high draft pick, or make a real good trade, you all are gonna be like, "yea I'm so happy we did this", but you all are gonna forget about the pointless games that we lost at the end of the season because those dont matter anymore. Our future is potentially decided by who we get in the draft, and nothing comes from pointless games.

There's no such thing as a pointless game, every game has meaning. If, or when this team takes the attitude that the games don't mean anything, or are pointless, and we can lose to gain draft leverage, that's the day I will no longer continue to support them.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Does Grady Jackson get his money's worth at CiCis pizza?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Read my 2nd post, and top picks can be busts, 7th rounders can be superstars, but odds are the higher the pick, the higher the possibility of that unproven rookie being a superstar.

Let us not forget that the older players we got (Ernest Byner, George Rogers) can sometime be the superstars that we need to fill the gaps.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

'cause would you really want to have sex with a chick who would only do it if the Skins lost?

Yeah, but think of all the sex you'd have gotten over the past 15 years!