DB help next year ?

[#56fanatic]

I would not draft a CB. that is one area I would bring in a FA. I dont know if they will release Arch. My guess is they can see how he progresses in the offseason and pre-season. It will cost them less of a cap hit next offseason than this offseason. (i think) Springs moving over may be good coverage wise, but I am not sure about the run support part of it. I guess it can be worked out to where he is in coverage most of the time and let Taylor roam around.

[JoeRedskin]

I think Springs as a safety would be a terrific move IF we can then get a guarranteed No.1 corner. Sorry, Rogers just looks like a solid number 2 corner to me (A slightly - and I do mean slightly - more physical corner than Smoot).

If we can get a solid no. 1 corner then it seems to me that Springs has the perfect skill set to compliment Taylor - better in coverage, good blitzer, and a solid, if not spectacular tackler.

[JoeRedskin]

Oops - My bad. Thanks CC.

[CrazyCanuck]

Here's what we have now:

Under contract thru 2007
Sean Taylor S
Adam Archuleta S
Pierson Prioleau S
Reed Doughty S
Mike Rumph DB
Troy Vincent DB
Shawn Springs CB
Carlos Rogers CB

2007 free agents
Vernon Fox DB
Adebola Jimoh CB
Kenny Wright CB

Despite our recent FA busts I'd still like to bring in a top corner (ie Clements). I'd move Springs to S. That way we'd have Clements and Rogers at the corners and Taylor and Springs at safety. Prioleau, Fox, and The Ade can come off the bench, and Springs can go back to CB in certain situations or in case of injuries.

I'd like to keep Vincent but he's expensive at $1.5M for 2007. Maybe if he resigns for something closer to the vet min ($425K). I think we cut AA, and then fill in the remaining slots with the Doughty, Rumph, Wrights of the world.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Here's what we have now:

Under contract thru 2007
Sean Taylor S
Adam Archuleta S
Pierson Prioleau S
Reed Doughty S
Mike Rumph DB
Troy Vincent DB
Shawn Springs CB
Carlos Rogers CB

2007 free agents
Vernon Fox DB
Adebola Jimoh CB
Kenny Wright CB

Despite our recent FA busts I'd still like to bring in a top corner (ie Clements). I'd move Springs to S. That way we'd have Clements and Rogers at the corners and Taylor and Springs at safety. Prioleau, Fox, and The Ade can come off the bench, and Springs can go back to CB in certain situations or in case of injuries.

I'd like to keep Vincent but he's expensive at $1.5M for 2007. Maybe if he resigns for something closer to the vet min ($425K). I think we cut AA, and then fill in the remaining slots with the Doughty, Rumph, Wrights of the world.

How will cutting AA impact things? Is it a bullet we can afford to bite? To me it seems like it's inevitable, I just hope it doesn't handcuff us too much.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

How will cutting AA impact things? Is it a bullet we can afford to bite? To me it seems like it's inevitable, I just hope it doesn't handcuff us too much.

He'd be a $9M deadcap hit if we cut him before June 1. If we cut him after June 1 we'd take a $1.833M deadcap hit in '07 and a $7.167M deadcap hit in '08.

$9M seems like a lot to take on our 2007 cap, but god knows it wouldn't be the first time. I think a post June 1 cut makes more sense, especially with the $116M cap figure for 2008.

[724Skinsfan]

I thought Don Warren was a head coach at a high school?

Anyway, you want DB help next year and get the most out of current Redskins DB's? Easy answer....Bring in a 5-6 year veteran and...(this is the best part)....Hire #28 as the new Secondaries coach!

[SmootSmack]

Let's not forget about Prieoleau though. And what do you guys think of Tory James?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Do we really want another 30+ year old DB?

[dmek25]

Ade has proven his worth on special teams. but he must have taken a step back wards in pass coverage. as lousy as the skins secondary has played this season, jimoh has hardly stepped on the field

[JWsleep]

About the cap, the skins anticipated these increases--they back-loaded contracts to 2007 and 2008. So we'll have some cash in the next couple of years, especially if we get some decent restructuring from our vets.

But without a GM, all the money in the world aint gonna help...

It sucks to have to be investing in the DB yet again--Taylor, Springs, Rogers, AA, not to mention the long list of scrubs, ahve all been picked up in recent years, and we've ended up with a bad secondary. We have needs elsewhere as well, so it would be nice to not have to keep throwing cash in that direction!

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

It sucks to have to be investing in the DB yet again--Taylor, Springs, Rogers, AA, not to mention the long list of scrubs, ahve all been picked up in recent years, and we've ended up with a bad secondary. We have needs elsewhere as well, so it would be nice to not have to keep throwing cash in that direction!

I totally agree. Unfortunately I think this year showed us how bad things can get with a weak secondary. I'd like to rebuild the D from back to front. I'd gladly take a "bend, don't break" defense over what we had this year.

[redsk1]

I'd hate to see the Ade become available on the free agent market. I'd hate to add him to the list of core redskins that got away Pierce, Smoot, the Ade??

Hmmm...I wonder if he is the "mole."

[The Zimmermans]

I feel like, if we hire a GM, it needs to be someone who knows the redskin organization well, and knows the current players they have, and their strengths, weaknesses and future pluses and minuses. I feel like bringing in a random GM from another organization would be like starting over again, since HE too would have to get to know his players just like the process Gibbs had to go through. Anyone know of anyone who suits that description???

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I feel like, if we hire a GM, it needs to be someone who knows the redskin organization well, and knows the current players they have, and their strengths, weaknesses and future pluses and minuses. I feel like bringing in a random GM from another organization would be like starting over again, since HE too would have to get to know his players just like the process Gibbs had to go through. Anyone know of anyone who suits that description???

Did you just move? Weren't you in Cabin John just a few hours ago? Anyhow I don't know the answer to your question specifically. I do think, however, that just like I suggested maybe we need to critique at a lower level as far as the coaches we should consider doing the same at the front office level. Yes it's Gibbs' job as President to know what's happening as well as Ceratto's (as whatever his title is), but he's certainly getting a lot of his info on players (strengths, weaknesses, etc.) from the scouting department. So, do we have the wrong scouts in place?

Isn't Don Warren a scout?