Betts better than Portis?

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Nope.

Especially when Portis has never done for us what Betts just did.

Wow, Ladell betts rushed for 171 yards and we lost, tell me exactly what he did. Pretty much everytime Clinton runs for 100 yards we win, and dont forget he almost single handidly ran us into the playoffs last year

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Wow, Ladell betts rushed for 171 yards and we lost, tell me exactly what he did. Pretty much everytime Clinton runs for 100 yards we win, and dont forget he almost single handidly ran us into the playoffs last year

What kind of comment is that? You can't win without and entire team! We of all teams should know that. You especially can't win without a defense. Portis could run for 250 yards and lose because this defense of ours sucks.

ps. take Betts out of the equasion today and we would have lost big. He was by far our MVP today.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Wow, Ladell betts rushed for 171 yards and we lost, tell me exactly what he did. Pretty much everytime Clinton runs for 100 yards we win, and dont forget he almost single handidly ran us into the playoffs last year

Ya , 171 yds ,,,, big deal ? So if Portis runs for 110 yds , 3.9 yd avg ,,, HE wins for us , If Betts gets near 200 it is the line doing it ? Guess the line likes blocking for Betts , and they let CP do it all by himself ? Maybe the question should be what have a dozen draft picks , Campbell , Brunell , Loyd , L. Coles , Cooley ,Duckett and the millions we paid for the others do for us ? We won those games last year because of our defence , our offence with CP could not find the endzone against Arizona and Oakland ,, lucky our D bailed us out vs Philly , maybe Portis played as # 21 and ran back the fumble for a td , not Taylor ?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Nope.

Especially when Portis has never done for us what Betts just did.

Typical knee jerk reactions. No one loves Betts more than I do. We can win with him as our starting RB. And if someone offers a boatload of draft picks I would trade CP. But how can you compare Betts to CP after three games?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Typical knee jerk reactions. No one loves Betts more than I do. We can win with him as our starting RB. And if someone offers a boatload of draft picks I would trade CP. But how can you compare Betts to CP after three games?

It's fun

Besides, we've pretty much talked about everything there is to talk about over these past 14 weeks, why not something new?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Nope.

Especially when Portis has never done for us what Betts just did.

its all about wins and losses. lets talk about those numbers when betts starts, as compared to when clinton starts. its not even close

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

its all about wins and losses. lets talk about those numbers when betts starts, as compared to when clinton starts. its not even close

Again, T-E-A-M.
This isn't tennis or golf.

ps- Portis 06 3-6, Betts 1-2. Even. (see how dumb that argument is now?)

[dgack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

its all about wins and losses. lets talk about those numbers when betts starts, as compared to when clinton starts. its not even close

We've covered this already, but we the team hasn't even posted a winning record with Portis starting, so it's a pretty lame (IMO) way to make your argument.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by dmek25

its all about wins and losses. lets talk about those numbers when betts starts, as compared to when clinton starts. its not even close

That's what it comes down to. Plus, like others have said, Betts has had some nice blocking the last few games. The announcers even noted that anyone could have run through some of those holes today. Not to take away from Betts, but he has yet to put the team on his shoulders and carry them through a game (let alone 6 in a row like CP did last year).

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

its all about wins and losses. lets talk about those numbers when betts starts, as compared to when clinton starts. its not even close

Are you saying we have a better chance to win the game when Clinton Portis runs for 100 yards than we do if Ladell Betts runs for 200 yards?

If so, I think you're way off on this one.

[Smurf85]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Nope.

Especially when Portis has never done for us what Betts just did.

Yeah its not like Portis had 1500 yds last year and 11 tds.I have said this before and i guess i have to say it again.Look at the carries guys and wake up.Portis never got more than 23 carries in one game this year.He was getting 14 to 17 carries a game.Betts has got 24,28 and now 33.Give Portis that many carries and you will see better numbers.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

Yeah its not like Portis had 1500 yds last year and 11 tds.I have said this before and i guess i have to say it again.Look at the carries guys and wake up.Portis never got more than 23 carries in one game this year.He was getting 14 to 17 carries a game.Betts has got 24,28 and now 33.Give Portis that many carries and you will see better numbers.

That's a really good point. I never even thought about it.

[Longtimefan]

I really don't see where it matters which one is better. I'm delighted we have them both on the team, and look foreward to good things from them both in the future.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's a really good point. I never even thought about it.

You might want to read my earlier post, and rethink your thought of it being a good point...it's not when you examine the facts.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

Look at the carries guys and wake up.Portis never got more than 23 carries in one game this year.He was getting 14 to 17 carries a game.Betts has got 24,28 and now 33.Give Portis that many carries and you will see better numbers.

Another questionable argument, since we know he was hurt pretty bad and Joe didn't want to kill him by over-using him. He was so beaten up that he ran out of gas entirely in the playoffs last year, so what does that tell you?

Betts is more of a pounder, Clinton's more of a slasher, I don't understand the problem here. It's pretty clear to me that we could have been using Betts as a workhorse and uncorking Clinton for a big play threat for a year now.