Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF

70Chip · 02-03-2007, 04:43 PM

Adding insult to injury is the elevation to the Hall of Micheal Irvin - a man whose ongoing substance abuse problem is a ticking time bomb sure to embarass the National Football League and his employer - ESPN. They succeeded in largely covering up his unbelievable comments to Dan Patrick, but the nature of his problem is such that he is sure to strike again.

This vote today signifies the media engaging in the ultimate act of "enabling". They have by their vote endorsed the reckless behaviour of Irvin and renounced the responsible behaviour of Monk. They are saying more about themselves than they are about the candidates. They are saying loudly, 'We are all moral shitbags!" I take them at their word.

BrudLee · 02-03-2007, 04:43 PM

I think what we ought to do now is focus on honoring Monk in another way. We should ask the Redskins to officially retire his number.

There are several players who deserve this. Jurgenson, Riggins, and Darrell Green have also distinguished themselves in a manner befitting this honor. Indeed, their numbers are all "unofficially" retired -they haven't been issued to new players. The difference is, those players have either been inducted, or will be.

Art Monk has been slighted for years now. Football's greatest individual honor has been denied him by prejudicial voters. What the Redskins can do is offer their highest honor to him. And they can do it now.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-03-2007, 04:49 PM

that's a great idea

mooby · 02-03-2007, 04:58 PM

I'm sick of these stupid idiots from the media holding the privelege of being the ones who get to vote players in. It's time for the NFL to get rid of all these guys that have never played the game before, and make a up a new selection committee, made up of older generation players who've retired at least 10 seasons ago, because they know a hell of a lot more about football than those douchebags in the media. The NFL could ask each team to nominate one player, or perhaps two, players from the older generation to be on the selection committee. That would leave either 32 or 64 older generation players to vote on who should be in.

12thMan · 02-03-2007, 05:05 PM

Excuse me Mods and guys.....un****ing believable!

12thMan · 02-03-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I think what we ought to do now is focus on honoring Monk in another way. We should ask the Redskins to officially retire his number.

There are several players who deserve this. Jurgenson, Riggins, and Darrell Green have also distinguished themselves in a manner befitting this honor. Indeed, their numbers are all "unofficially" retired -they haven't been issued to new players. The difference is, those players have either been inducted, or will be.

Art Monk has been slighted for years now. Football's greatest individual honor has been denied him by prejudicial voters. What the Redskins can do is offer their highest honor to him. And they can do it now.

There absolute must be a strong push of some sort, motivated, by the fans to get Art Monk into the Hall. Or better yet, retire his number.

I mean, we spend countless hours here petitioning our opinions, one way or another. Let's petition something that every true Redskins fan will get behind.

ArtMonkDrillz · 02-03-2007, 05:10 PM

My dad and I were carrying a new LCD TV into the house when I heard that Art didn't make it again, I swear I almost dropped the damn thing because I was so F'ing pissed. It honestly felt like I got kicked in the nuts.

12thMan · 02-03-2007, 05:11 PM

I'm so hot right now. Somehow it would be somewhat redeeming if our team was playing good ball or came out next year and kicked some serious ass. Not solely for Art Monk, per se, but this city is hungry for something to cheer about!

70Chip · 02-03-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Due to requests for a new Monk thread to discuss Monk's denial, here goes! Vent.

I am trying to create a letter to the HoF selection committee.

Here is a list of the voters. Does anyone care enough about Monk to google these guys' emails so we can send a letter?

Arizona Kent Somers, Arizona Republic
Atlanta Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com
Baltimore Scott Garceau, WMAR-TV
Buffalo Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News
Carolina Charles Chandler, Charlotte Observer
Chicago Don Pierson, Chicago Tribune*
Cincinnati Chick Ludwig, Dayton Daily News
Cleveland Tony Grossi, Cleveland Plain Dealer
Dallas Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News*
Denver Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
Detroit Jerry Green, The Detroit News*
Green Bay Cliff Christl, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Houston John McClain, Houston Chronicle*
Indianapolis Mike Chappell, Indianapolis Star
Jacksonville Sam Kouvaris, WJXT-TV
Kansas City Bob Gretz, KCFX Overland Park, KS
Miami Edwin Pope, Miami Herald*
Minnesota Sid Hartman, The Minneapolis Star-Tribune
New England Ron Borges, Boston Globe
New Orleans Pete Finney, Times-Picayune
New York (Giants) Vinny DiTrani, Bergen Record
New York (Jets) Paul Zimmerman, Sports Illustrated
Oakland Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange
Philadelphia Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News
Pittsburgh Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
St. Louis Bernie Miklasz, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
San Diego Jerry Magee, San Diego Union Tribune*
San Francisco Ira Miller, The Sports Xchange*
Seattle John Clayton, ESPN/ESPN Magazine
Tampa Bay Ira Kaufman, Tampa Tribune
Tennessee David Climer, The Tennessean
Washington David Elfin, Washington Times
PFWA Charean Williams, Ft. Worth Star Telegram
At Large Howard Balzer, The Sports Xchange
At Large Jarrett Bell, USA Today
At Large Dave Goldberg, Associated Press*
At Large Peter King, Sports Illustrated
At Large Bob Oates, Los Angeles Times
At Large Len Shapiro, Miami Herald*
At Large Jim Trotter, San Diego Union-Tribune

Also, please chime in as to why Monk belongs in Canton.

The first step is to find out who voted for Monk and who didn't. Then, to select one of those no voters and target him with a campaign of mayhem, deceipt, trickery and hate. And it should be someone other than Fat Lenny. He seems to be immune to reason at this point. Someone from a smaller market will be more vulnerable to overreaction and therefore be more likely to make an example of himself. Someone less well known might say, "Who needs this?" and pass the word of his ordeal on.

70Chip · 02-03-2007, 05:34 PM

Statements From Snyder, Gibbs On Monk

February 3, 2007

Statement on Art Monk from Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder:
"A good man and legitimate Hall of Famer is being denied entry for reasons we never know, by people who secretly vote. Art Monk is a Hall of Famer by any measure. This is not right."

Statement on Art Monk from Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs:
"I'm disappointed that Art wasn't recognized for election into the Hall of Fame today, but I remain confident that he will be recognized for all the positive contributions he has brought to the game. I can't think of a more deserving player or person that possesses more Hall of Fame credentials than Art."

Gmanc711 · 02-03-2007, 05:38 PM

I honestly can't even comment right now. Last year, and the year before I really never felt that he was going to get voted in. When I woke up today, I actually got my Monk jersey out and ready to wear tommraow becuase I was positive he was going in. This is a f***ing travisty. How the hell Irvin got in before him, is absolutley rediculous to me. I think Irvin was HOF bound regardless and probaboly should be, but Art Monk is being robbed. The guy will one day be in the HOF, but will he even live to see that day. I agree with what Brud said, the Redskins need to make a serious statment about this injustice and do somthing for Art.

davy · 02-03-2007, 06:36 PM

I've long held the belief that sports writers know **** all about **** all.

Case proven.

wilsowilso · 02-03-2007, 06:50 PM

I was going to post earlier, but I would have gotten in trouble for writing what I wanted to. This caps off a bad bad year for the Redskins nation. Monk will get in some day. It will be impossible to keep him out forever.

724Skinsfan · 02-03-2007, 06:53 PM

If character and leadership are not supposed to be factors why the hell is Carson in? Carson did not provide any more or less HOF statistics/intangibles to his team than Art Monk. The only reaonable excuse I'm kind of begrudgingly willing to settle for would be for Monk to have to wait the length of time Carson did. Which was...how long?

...So who's eligible next year? Are we to hope for a Green/Monk dual induction ceremony? I'd almost enjoy waiting to see that from a totally selfish perspective.

SUNRA · 02-03-2007, 06:59 PM

I found out about this travesty after leaving the movie theater and turning on ESPN. As the announcer gave the names I knew Monk's name would be last. And when I heard Micheal Irvin's name, I lost my religion for a minute.

The very thing that these hypocrites overlooked about Art Monk is the very thing that Micheal Irvin possessed. A bunch of personal flaws and headlines that sold a lot of their shitty newspapers that aren't worth wrapping fish in. The great Art Monk played the game, declined interviews and went home. Peter King mentioned several years ago that Art Monk didn't do interviews. But Monk sure did the hell out of King's New York Giants.

02-03-2007, 04:43 PM	#16
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF Adding insult to injury is the elevation to the Hall of Micheal Irvin - a man whose ongoing substance abuse problem is a ticking time bomb sure to embarass the National Football League and his employer - ESPN. They succeeded in largely covering up his unbelievable comments to Dan Patrick, but the nature of his problem is such that he is sure to strike again. This vote today signifies the media engaging in the ultimate act of "enabling". They have by their vote endorsed the reckless behaviour of Irvin and renounced the responsible behaviour of Monk. They are saying more about themselves than they are about the candidates. They are saying loudly, 'We are all moral shitbags!" I take them at their word. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

02-03-2007, 04:43 PM	#17
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I think what we ought to do now is focus on honoring Monk in another way. We should ask the Redskins to officially retire his number. There are several players who deserve this. Jurgenson, Riggins, and Darrell Green have also distinguished themselves in a manner befitting this honor. Indeed, their numbers are all "unofficially" retired -they haven't been issued to new players. The difference is, those players have either been inducted, or will be. Art Monk has been slighted for years now. Football's greatest individual honor has been denied him by prejudicial voters. What the Redskins can do is offer their highest honor to him. And they can do it now. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

02-03-2007, 04:49 PM	#18
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 39 Posts: 896	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF that's a great idea

02-03-2007, 04:58 PM	#19
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I'm sick of these stupid idiots from the media holding the privelege of being the ones who get to vote players in. It's time for the NFL to get rid of all these guys that have never played the game before, and make a up a new selection committee, made up of older generation players who've retired at least 10 seasons ago, because they know a hell of a lot more about football than those douchebags in the media. The NFL could ask each team to nominate one player, or perhaps two, players from the older generation to be on the selection committee. That would leave either 32 or 64 older generation players to vote on who should be in.

02-03-2007, 05:05 PM	#20
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF Excuse me Mods and guys.....un****ing believable!

02-03-2007, 05:10 PM	#22
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF My dad and I were carrying a new LCD TV into the house when I heard that Art didn't make it again, I swear I almost dropped the damn thing because I was so F'ing pissed. It honestly felt like I got kicked in the nuts. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

02-03-2007, 05:11 PM	#23
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I'm so hot right now. Somehow it would be somewhat redeeming if our team was playing good ball or came out next year and kicked some serious ass. Not solely for Art Monk, per se, but this city is hungry for something to cheer about!

02-03-2007, 05:34 PM	#25
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF Statements From Snyder, Gibbs On Monk February 3, 2007 Statement on Art Monk from Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder: "A good man and legitimate Hall of Famer is being denied entry for reasons we never know, by people who secretly vote. Art Monk is a Hall of Famer by any measure. This is not right." Statement on Art Monk from Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs: "I'm disappointed that Art wasn't recognized for election into the Hall of Fame today, but I remain confident that he will be recognized for all the positive contributions he has brought to the game. I can't think of a more deserving player or person that possesses more Hall of Fame credentials than Art." __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

02-03-2007, 05:38 PM	#26
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I honestly can't even comment right now. Last year, and the year before I really never felt that he was going to get voted in. When I woke up today, I actually got my Monk jersey out and ready to wear tommraow becuase I was positive he was going in. This is a f***ing travisty. How the hell Irvin got in before him, is absolutley rediculous to me. I think Irvin was HOF bound regardless and probaboly should be, but Art Monk is being robbed. The guy will one day be in the HOF, but will he even live to see that day. I agree with what Brud said, the Redskins need to make a serious statment about this injustice and do somthing for Art. __________________ #21

02-03-2007, 06:36 PM	#27
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 939	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I've long held the belief that sports writers know ** all about ** all. Case proven. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

02-03-2007, 06:50 PM	#28
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I was going to post earlier, but I would have gotten in trouble for writing what I wanted to. This caps off a bad bad year for the Redskins nation. Monk will get in some day. It will be impossible to keep him out forever.

02-03-2007, 06:53 PM	#29
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF If character and leadership are not supposed to be factors why the hell is Carson in? Carson did not provide any more or less HOF statistics/intangibles to his team than Art Monk. The only reaonable excuse I'm kind of begrudgingly willing to settle for would be for Monk to have to wait the length of time Carson did. Which was...how long? ...So who's eligible next year? Are we to hope for a Green/Monk dual induction ceremony? I'd almost enjoy waiting to see that from a totally selfish perspective. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

02-03-2007, 06:59 PM	#30
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF I found out about this travesty after leaving the movie theater and turning on ESPN. As the announcer gave the names I knew Monk's name would be last. And when I heard Micheal Irvin's name, I lost my religion for a minute. The very thing that these hypocrites overlooked about Art Monk is the very thing that Micheal Irvin possessed. A bunch of personal flaws and headlines that sold a lot of their shitty newspapers that aren't worth wrapping fish in. The great Art Monk played the game, declined interviews and went home. Peter King mentioned several years ago that Art Monk didn't do interviews. But Monk sure did the hell out of King's New York Giants. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

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