WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements

skinsfan69 · 02-13-2007, 11:57 PM

Sorry but bringing in Fletcher makes no sense to me. None what so ever. How about bringing in a MLB that is young and will perhaps have a chance to be with the team for several years. This is a total band aid approach.

Here is what messes up the locker room and team morale. Dock is still not signed yet. He should be the first priority! If they sign and give big $ to NC and leave Dock out there then that's not good. This is what pisses off guys in the locker room. Take care of your own first.

GTripp0012 · 02-14-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but bringing in Fletcher makes no sense to me. None what so ever. How about bringing in a MLB that is young and will perhaps have a chance to be with the team for several years. This is a total band aid approach.

We could do that...if we had any picks. If he can man the middle for just 2 seasons, we can draft a MLB next year in the first two rounds next season and cut Fletcher after 2008.

FRPLG · 02-14-2007, 12:05 AM

I was one of the first to tout Fletcher and I think he'd be a great addition provided we maintain a plan for replacing him accordingly as he ages. He is at most a stop gap until we have the luxury of spending a high pick on a good replacement.

He a heckuva play maker and knows the system. I cannot imagine that he wouldn't bring something we've missed since Pierce was gone. A play making MLB who can run the D.

As for Clements well we need help in the secondary and he seems to fit the best. Unless I hear a better idea I am on board.

Dirtbag59 · 02-14-2007, 12:13 AM

Where the hell do we get all this cap room? I sware we need a GM. Clements is fine. Fletcher would be nice to but for god sakes the guys gonna be 32 next season.

Skinz4life · 02-14-2007, 09:56 AM

I think both players are fine as long as we don't overspend, which may be asking alot, the concern I have is that last year G Williams hand picked both A.A and A. Carter and neither of them worked out, although Carter played well down the stretch. The defense did better with a bunch of unknown overachievers but when they started added high price free agents to the team the defense got worse.

Gmanc711 · 02-14-2007, 12:25 AM

OMG I just want Dockery Resigned...is there ANY news on that front? Its really all I care about at this point. I really think that it is such a glaring need to get him back to maintain the success we did on offense.

jamf · 02-14-2007, 01:11 AM

The best thing we can do to improve linebacker play is Get another defensive tackle. We need a big fat slob that will anchor the middle and keep blockers from getting to Marshall.

That Guy · 02-14-2007, 06:23 AM

well, fletcher is definitely better than what we had last year. it could be a great or terrible move, it all depends on the price. I mean, zach thomas and donnie edwards are still playing well, and they're even older. speed at mlb isn't that important compared to CB or OLB. I'll judge it when i see price tags.

both are great players right now though, and fletcher should have 3-4 good years left. But if he gets a 7 year 40$mill contract, i'm going to be hurting people....

skinsfan69 · 02-14-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

well, fletcher is definitely better than what we had last year. it could be a great or terrible move, it all depends on the price. I mean, zach thomas and donnie edwards are still playing well, and they're even older. speed at mlb isn't that important compared to CB or OLB. I'll judge it when i see price tags.

both are great players right now though, and fletcher should have 3-4 good years left. But if he gets a 7 year 40$mill contract, i'm going to be hurting people....

Both Thomas and Edwards played on better defenses. Let's see if Griff and whoever else is on the line can play better. If not then it does not matter if we bring in Brian U.

MTK · 02-14-2007, 07:14 AM

Fletcher makes sense for a variety of reasons. He knows GW's defense and even at 32 he's still a tackling machine.

He's obviously not a long term answer but considering our limited draft picks and a very weak MLB free agent crop out there... he's easily the best solution available.

I won't complain if he comes in and gives us 2-3 quality seasons.

dmek25 · 02-14-2007, 07:15 AM

plain and simple, fletcher is an upgrade at middle linebacker, but is probably too old. and clements would be a good fit, and i really don't give a rats ass what the redskins pay anyone. year after year, the skins masterfully move right around the salary cap. one of these years, after the skins have some success, someone is going to recognize how good of a job whomever it is that runs the skins cap

That Guy · 02-14-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

plain and simple, fletcher is an upgrade at middle linebacker, but is probably too old. and clements would be a good fit, and i really don't give a rats ass what the redskins pay anyone. year after year, the skins masterfully move right around the salary cap. one of these years, after the skins have some success, someone is going to recognize how good of a job whomever it is that runs the skins cap

if by masterful you mean leading the league in dead cap, not having enough money for decent depth and having to pay more each year for smaller returns. not to mention the fact that the skins overpay all their FA signings anyways.

it hasn't bitten them because of the new TV deals, BUT, right now the skins need to rework four thousand contracts to get an FA while other teams are 30mill+ under the cap. This team is already at a competitive disadvantage as far as cap resources, not to mention draft pick disparity, overpaying (very poor price/performance on very big contracts), and the current lack of depth.

I mean, there's always luck and the chance we'll get 2 HoF guys as UDFAs, but right now next year ain't looking so hot. maybe if no one gets hurt and those 2 signings put the D back in the top 10 we got a shot...

vaoutlaws2006 · 02-14-2007, 07:39 AM

clements is cool with me but how old is that undersized linebacker? he's got to have some years on him. Again the idea of throwing money at veteran free agents. this is not the way to correct the problems the redskins have with their roster. but again i forgot this is our superbowl. lets see who spends the most money in free agency. I have a funny feeling it will be the skins.

#56fanatic · 02-14-2007, 08:23 AM

I dont understand the fletcher thing. 32 years old is a waste of money. it would be different if it was for depth, at a LOW cost. This defense does not need to get older! It was one of the oldest in the NFL. Marshall will be 30, holdman was over 30, griffin, wynn, daniels, spring I think we all 30 or over. We need to inject some youth at those key spots. Clements would be a good pickup, but 18 million bonus up front? I dont think so. He is not $18million good. that is being the best in the NFL, and I dont put him there. I think we could find or draft someone that will be just as serviceable.

FRPLG · 02-14-2007, 08:26 AM

You can't just ignore a guy because of age. It is a fine and dandy dream of some of you to think we can just always go out and either draft an immediate replacement or find one in his prime at 26 but that isn't the way it works everytime. Sometimes you can and sometimes you need to find a quality older solution with an eye on finding the long term solution next year. Anyone who thinks Fletcher would not play well for us and be a great addition doesn't understand football. The guy can play. True he isn't the long term solution but you cannot always have long term soltuion at every position. Draft a DLineman, sign a younger long term solution at CB and sign Fletcher as a stop gap until next year at MLB. I don't see what is wrong with that approach.

02-13-2007, 11:57 PM	#1
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements Sorry but bringing in Fletcher makes no sense to me. None what so ever. How about bringing in a MLB that is young and will perhaps have a chance to be with the team for several years. This is a total band aid approach. Here is what messes up the locker room and team morale. Dock is still not signed yet. He should be the first priority! If they sign and give big $ to NC and leave Dock out there then that's not good. This is what pisses off guys in the locker room. Take care of your own first.

02-14-2007, 12:05 AM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements I was one of the first to tout Fletcher and I think he'd be a great addition provided we maintain a plan for replacing him accordingly as he ages. He is at most a stop gap until we have the luxury of spending a high pick on a good replacement. He a heckuva play maker and knows the system. I cannot imagine that he wouldn't bring something we've missed since Pierce was gone. A play making MLB who can run the D. As for Clements well we need help in the secondary and he seems to fit the best. Unless I hear a better idea I am on board.

02-14-2007, 12:13 AM	#4
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements Where the hell do we get all this cap room? I sware we need a GM. Clements is fine. Fletcher would be nice to but for god sakes the guys gonna be 32 next season. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-14-2007, 12:25 AM	#6
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements OMG I just want Dockery Resigned...is there ANY news on that front? Its really all I care about at this point. I really think that it is such a glaring need to get him back to maintain the success we did on offense. __________________ #21

02-14-2007, 01:11 AM	#7
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,427	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements The best thing we can do to improve linebacker play is Get another defensive tackle. We need a big fat slob that will anchor the middle and keep blockers from getting to Marshall.

02-14-2007, 09:56 AM	#5
Skinz4life Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Syracuse, UT Posts: 65	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements I think both players are fine as long as we don't overspend, which may be asking alot, the concern I have is that last year G Williams hand picked both A.A and A. Carter and neither of them worked out, although Carter played well down the stretch. The defense did better with a bunch of unknown overachievers but when they started added high price free agents to the team the defense got worse.

02-14-2007, 06:23 AM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements well, fletcher is definitely better than what we had last year. it could be a great or terrible move, it all depends on the price. I mean, zach thomas and donnie edwards are still playing well, and they're even older. speed at mlb isn't that important compared to CB or OLB. I'll judge it when i see price tags. both are great players right now though, and fletcher should have 3-4 good years left. But if he gets a 7 year 40$mill contract, i'm going to be hurting people....

02-14-2007, 07:14 AM	#10
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements Fletcher makes sense for a variety of reasons. He knows GW's defense and even at 32 he's still a tackling machine. He's obviously not a long term answer but considering our limited draft picks and a very weak MLB free agent crop out there... he's easily the best solution available. I won't complain if he comes in and gives us 2-3 quality seasons. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-14-2007, 07:15 AM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements plain and simple, fletcher is an upgrade at middle linebacker, but is probably too old. and clements would be a good fit, and i really don't give a rats ass what the redskins pay anyone. year after year, the skins masterfully move right around the salary cap. one of these years, after the skins have some success, someone is going to recognize how good of a job whomever it is that runs the skins cap __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-14-2007, 07:39 AM	#13
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 54 Posts: 806	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements clements is cool with me but how old is that undersized linebacker? he's got to have some years on him. Again the idea of throwing money at veteran free agents. this is not the way to correct the problems the redskins have with their roster. but again i forgot this is our superbowl. lets see who spends the most money in free agency. I have a funny feeling it will be the skins. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

02-14-2007, 08:23 AM	#14
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements I dont understand the fletcher thing. 32 years old is a waste of money. it would be different if it was for depth, at a LOW cost. This defense does not need to get older! It was one of the oldest in the NFL. Marshall will be 30, holdman was over 30, griffin, wynn, daniels, spring I think we all 30 or over. We need to inject some youth at those key spots. Clements would be a good pickup, but 18 million bonus up front? I dont think so. He is not $18million good. that is being the best in the NFL, and I dont put him there. I think we could find or draft someone that will be just as serviceable.

02-14-2007, 08:26 AM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements You can't just ignore a guy because of age. It is a fine and dandy dream of some of you to think we can just always go out and either draft an immediate replacement or find one in his prime at 26 but that isn't the way it works everytime. Sometimes you can and sometimes you need to find a quality older solution with an eye on finding the long term solution next year. Anyone who thinks Fletcher would not play well for us and be a great addition doesn't understand football. The guy can play. True he isn't the long term solution but you cannot always have long term soltuion at every position. Draft a DLineman, sign a younger long term solution at CB and sign Fletcher as a stop gap until next year at MLB. I don't see what is wrong with that approach.

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