Schaub Trade bad for skins

SmootSmack · 03-22-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think everyone is operating on about 10% info right now. There are going to be some serious shake ups in the coming weeks and trades will absolutely happen at the top of this draft this year.

It is nearly impossible to figure out. More so than ever before that I can remember.

I think this draft has some real quality players that people are desperate to get. The key is that we figure out how to capitalize on that. I don't want to be one of the desperate teams.

I wonder if we could package to move up and then repackage to move back down and end up getting who we want plus even better picks?

I was wondering the same thing actually. How do we move up to 2-4 and then move back down again. Didn't we do something similar the Ricky Williams year?

johnjaywilliams · 03-22-2007, 03:11 PM

that trade was and still is strange to me cuz we houston needed was and o-line not a another qb and to make matter worst he is slower that D.Carr. Carr is goin to be aight if he goes to another team that has a o-lne and some palymaker around his. I don't see another team tradin for him cuz they made it clear that Schaub is their qb and everyother team know that they want to trade carr befor tha draft so tha team are goin to fall back and wait till they release carr. so he is free to pick his team

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 03-22-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What if you were pick up a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and Bly?

That would be good, but remember those 2nd 3rd and 4th picks are late in their respective rounds, and although Bly is a quality player, we already have cap problems, and signing him will just further those problems. And we might not even need him if Rogers and Smoot turn out to be a good duo. I'm not saying thats not a fair deal, I'm just up in the air about it and playing the devils advocate because I feel we also really need to improve our D-line this year. I would honestly perfer draft picks going into next year over getting Bly.

SmootSmack · 03-22-2007, 03:16 PM

I like Carr, but he has to take some of the blame for his sacks. He has a tendency often to just hold onto the ball way too long.

EXoffender · 03-22-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Theres no way that the Texans are giving up two 2nd round picks, droping two spots in the first round, and giving a 6 year $48 million contract to Schuab so they can have a QB competition. Carr will be gone next year and Sage Rosenfels will be groomed as Schuabs backup...

I just can't believe we got nothing for Archuleta.

EXoffender · 03-22-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think everyone is operating on about 10% info right now. There are going to be some serious shake ups in the coming weeks and trades will absolutely happen at the top of this draft this year.

It is nearly impossible to figure out. More so than ever before that I can remember.

I think this draft has some real quality players that people are desperate to get. The key is that we figure out how to capitalize on that. I don't want to be one of the desperate teams.

I wonder if we could package to move up and then repackage to move back down and end up getting who we want plus even better picks?

Hopeful?

EXoffender · 03-22-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it will hurt us much at all. I think we've got a deal with Denver already penciled in.

Does this 'pencil' have an eraser?

Beemnseven · 03-22-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What if you were pick up #21, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th, and Bly... in exchange for #6 and Springs?

On the surface it sounds tempting, but as someone else pointed out, those are all late picks in each draft. Plus you have to consider our record in selecting players in the middle rounds of the draft that have amounted to anything.

If there was a shot at one of the top guys for the D-line at #21 (and by that I mean Branch, Okoye, Carriker, Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams), then I would take that deal and run. Problem is that none of these guys will last that long -- and we would still have big question marks with our front four.

Our ability to bolster the defensive line, even if it means doing it with just one player this year, trumps picking up additional picks in the late rounds.

BangCartoon · 03-22-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What if you were pick up #21, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th, and Bly... in exchange for #6 and Springs?

I think they'd be crazy not to do that deal. I think that as another said, they have a deal pencilled in, and it's waiting so Denver can see how the first few picks shake out.

The notion that any draft pick is a sure thing is absurd. Where you pick in round one is kind of meaningless. Yay, so we stay at 6 and pick a guy Mel Kiper thinks is good. Does that make him good automatically?
Heath Shuler, Michael Westbrook, LaVar Arrington.. should teach us a lesson about the 'sure things".

~Bang

dmek25 · 03-22-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What if you were pick up #21, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th, and Bly... in exchange for #6 and Springs?

man i hope your right. this would be a sweet deal for the skins

EXoffender · 03-22-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What if you were pick up #21, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th, and Bly... in exchange for #6 and Springs?

What if?

MTK · 03-22-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

man i hope your right. this would be a sweet deal for the skins

Pure speculation on my part of course, but I could see a deal similar to that going down.

How odd would it be to see Champ and Springs playing together?

freddyg12 · 03-22-2007, 05:36 PM

2 recent reports should be noted here:

1) We traded AA to the Bears by getting them to pick up a 4.5 mil bonus.
2) It was reported that the Springs to Denver deal for Wilson & picks wasn't done because Denver wouldn't take on the cap relief the Skins asked for.

These are both great signs to me, the front office is finally refusing to eat all the cap hit in its deals. Whoever is ready to make a deal come draft day I hope is really desparate to pick someone at #6, otherwise we may not be able to play hardball as much if we want to acquire extra picks.

skins009 · 03-22-2007, 06:45 PM

Cassarely Sure did a great job of building the texans o-line huh???

offiss · 03-22-2007, 07:32 PM

I heard on ESPN or the NFL network that they thought the Falcons were interseted in Landry that's why they moved up.

This trade could hurt or help we will have to see, I still think we will be sitting in a very good position when we are on the clock with the 6th pick, someone will fall and something will get done. Right now we should have a legitamate interest in every player, I would also be in contact with teams who want Quinn we could very well force someone's hand to move up to our spot if they really want him, he has a legitamate chance of falling to us at the 6th spot.

03-22-2007, 03:11 PM	#17
johnjaywilliams Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 28	Re: Schaub Trade bad for skins that trade was and still is strange to me cuz we houston needed was and o-line not a another qb and to make matter worst he is slower that D.Carr. Carr is goin to be aight if he goes to another team that has a o-lne and some palymaker around his. I don't see another team tradin for him cuz they made it clear that Schaub is their qb and everyother team know that they want to trade carr befor tha draft so tha team are goin to fall back and wait till they release carr. so he is free to pick his team

03-22-2007, 03:16 PM	#19
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Schaub Trade bad for skins I like Carr, but he has to take some of the blame for his sacks. He has a tendency often to just hold onto the ball way too long. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-22-2007, 05:36 PM	#28
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Schaub Trade bad for skins 2 recent reports should be noted here: 1) We traded AA to the Bears by getting them to pick up a 4.5 mil bonus. 2) It was reported that the Springs to Denver deal for Wilson & picks wasn't done because Denver wouldn't take on the cap relief the Skins asked for. These are both great signs to me, the front office is finally refusing to eat all the cap hit in its deals. Whoever is ready to make a deal come draft day I hope is really desparate to pick someone at #6, otherwise we may not be able to play hardball as much if we want to acquire extra picks.

03-22-2007, 06:45 PM	#29
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: Schaub Trade bad for skins Cassarely Sure did a great job of building the texans o-line huh???

03-22-2007, 07:32 PM	#30
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Schaub Trade bad for skins I heard on ESPN or the NFL network that they thought the Falcons were interseted in Landry that's why they moved up. This trade could hurt or help we will have to see, I still think we will be sitting in a very good position when we are on the clock with the 6th pick, someone will fall and something will get done. Right now we should have a legitamate interest in every player, I would also be in contact with teams who want Quinn we could very well force someone's hand to move up to our spot if they really want him, he has a legitamate chance of falling to us at the 6th spot.

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