If Chargers can get a 1st & 3rd for Turner, don't we have to shop Betts?

[freddyg12]

turner isn't worth that much, don't know if buff will give up that much & Betts is too valuable to us

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

A bird in the hand........

Remember, T.J. was a first rounder.

There ya go... Ladell could be a 1500-1600 runner in a season.

[Misterbillysells]

I doubt the bills would be willing to give up so much for turner when they got so little for mcgahee

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Anybody who signs him has to give SD compensation because he is a restrcited FA. SD signed him to the highest possible tender.

Just my opinion but can we please stop with all the trade Betts/Portis talk. Its getting old and its not gonna happen anyway.

thank you

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

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The above link says backup RB Michael Turner is visiting Buffalo and Tenn. I later heard Clayton on ESPN radio state that it was a very real possibility that Turner would sign with Buffalo, and they would then give up a 1st and 3rd rounder. If that's the case, shouldn't the Skins FO be shopping Betts? He's not an every down back for the season (injuries) and he does seem to fumble at times. With his contract, I would think the Skins could get a 1st and a 3rd for him too.

I've been saying this for the last few weeks now. Every since I started the forum on the Jets trying to trade us J Vilma, I have been an advocate of dealing him to acquire more picks for out first day of the draft.

Even now that Mike Turner is looking like he is going to Buffalo, the RB market is scarce leading up to the draft. Teams are looking to tighten up on that position, and we are looking for more drafted talent, while possesing a limited supply of first day picks, or total draft day picks as a whole.

For the love of William Shattner's acting, shop him now while his value is high, and before the league figures out that he is injury prone and can't hold on to the ball!!! Get a 3rd round draft pick at lleast, and then have an oppourtiniity to draft young, inexpensive talent for our team at any position we'd deem fit, at that time in the draft.

Focker Out!

[skinsfan_nn]

We have a heck of a tandem with CP & LB! LB is going nowhere!
It would not suprise me one bit if LB is a career REDSKIN. This talk is nonsense!

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

I've been saying this for the last few weeks now. Every since I started the forum on the Jets trying to trade us J Vilma, I have been an advocate of dealing him to acquire more picks for out first day of the draft.

Even now that Mike Turner is looking like he is going to Buffalo, the RB market is scarce leading up to the draft. Teams are looking to tighten up on that position, and we are looking for more drafted talent, while possesing a limited supply of first day picks, or total draft day picks as a whole.

For the love of William Shattner's acting, shop him now while his value is high, and before the league figures out that he is injury prone and can't hold on to the ball!!! Get a 3rd round draft pick at lleast, and then have an oppourtiniity to draft young, inexpensive talent for our team at any position we'd deem fit, at that time in the draft.

Focker Out!

Hang it up, LB is going nowhere.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

We have a heck of a tandem with CP & LB! LB is going nowhere!
It would not suprise me one bit if LB is a career REDSKIN. This talk is nonsense!

A career Redskin after one sporadically good season is a bold statement. He didnt even have as many TD as Portis and he played more games! He wasn't even drafted by gibbs, so he, like the spurrier campaign, is soon to be a distant, yet painful, memory.

Even though he played well last season, this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year(e.g. Javon Walker - Packers, Adam Vinateri - Patriots, Trent Dilfer - SuperBowl Champs- Ravens, and Edgerrin James - Colts). Its not uncommon, or even bad business practice from any current NFl front office, that teams sign-and-trade players/trade players on draft day to enhace their draft posturing.

Yet, all of this remains to be seen. If Betts is on his way out, the best way to go about it is to wait until draft day. After all of the deals are on the table, then we can make a better decision as to how to package him(if we decided to take that course of action).

L Betts is not that good, and he is expendable for better draft posturing and roster depth. In this system a RB can be found late in the draft or via undrafted free agency(Preist Holmes, Willie Parker, and Dominick Rhodes).

Lets stack draft picks, draft wisely, and roll into next with fresh talent and depth at previously weak postions.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Hang it up, LB is going nowhere.

If/When he stays, you will be reminded on draft day of players that we could have had, but we will be crooning at the fact that we were afraid to position for that talent.

We will be perpetually kicking ourselves in the backsides, if we do not trade him now while his value is high.

Plus....

We have 1 1st day pick!!!

Nuff SAid

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

A career Redskin after one sporadically good season is a bold statement. He didnt even have as many TD as Portis and he played more games! He wasn't even drafted by gibbs, so he, like the spurrier campaign, is soon to be a distant, yet painful, memory.

Even though he played well last season, this is the NFL ladies and gents, people get traded and released after better seasons than Betts had last year(e.g. Javon Walker - Packers, Adam Vinateri - Patriots, Trent Dilfer - SuperBowl Champs- Ravens, and Edgerrin James - Colts). Its not uncommon, or even bad business practice from any current NFl front office, that teams sign-and-trade players/trade players on draft day to enhace their draft posturing.

Yet, all of this remains to be seen. If Betts is on his way out, the best way to go about it is to wait until draft day. After all of the deals are on the table, then we can make a better decision as to how to package him(if we decided to take that course of action).

L Betts is not that good, and he is expendable for better draft posturing and roster depth. In this system a RB can be found late in the draft or via undrafted free agency(Preist Holmes, Willie Parker, and Dominick Rhodes).

Lets stack draft picks, draft wisely, and roll into next with fresh talent and depth at previously weak postions.

If you're going to go putting stuff in bold font, you should at least know what you're talking about. Walker held out and essentially forced a trade, Vinatieri and EJ were both free agents who left their teams for better deals. That's not the same as trading a player. Maybe, just maybe you could make the argument that not re-signing a free agent is the same as "releasing" the player, but that would be stretching it.

I think we should leave our quarterback, running back and wide receiver situations alone. Not necessarily because I think Betts is great (he's decent) but because I think the unit as a whole would greatly benefit from all coming back together for another year.

[paulskinsfan]

Well if the Chargers do in fact get 1st round compensation for Turner, then we missed the boat because although Betts isn't a superstar, he's just as good, if not better than, Turner.

[Schneed10]

Stop the madness!!!

We just signed Betts to a deal including a $3.5 million bonus. If we trade him, we have to eat it, and it eats into the little cap room we have left. It's not going to happen for financial reasons, but when you mention how much Joe Gibbs loves him, the discussion enters the realm of the ridiculous.

You want to be able to sign rookies, don't you? Then we can't trade Betts.

Kill the thread, please.

- Thread Killer

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Stop the madness!!!

We just signed Betts to a deal including a $3.5 million bonus. If we trade him, we have to eat it, and it eats into the little cap room we have left. It's not going to happen for financial reasons, but when you mention how much Joe Gibbs loves him, the discussion enters the realm of the ridiculous.

You want to be able to sign rookies, don't you? Then we can't trade Betts.

Kill the thread, please.

- Thread Killer

well put man this is getting crazy betts is going no where everytime someone does good he has to be traded betts will most likely be here for the next 5 years cause his contract is 5 more years enough of the trade betts threads already

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

If/When he stays, you will be reminded on draft day of players that we could have had, but we will be crooning at the fact that we were afraid to position for that talent.

We will be perpetually kicking ourselves in the backsides, if we do not trade him now while his value is high.

Plus....

We have 1 1st day pick!!!

Nuff SAid

We will be perpetually kicking ourselves in the backside if we trade Betts and something happens to Portis again. Or if that did happen, maybe you would like to see another TJ Duckett trade for one of the draft picks of which you speak. Or maybe you'd like to see Rock Cartwright as our primary ball carrier with Portis injured and Betts traded. A trade of Ladell Betts at this particular time makes absolutely no sense at all.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Well if the Chargers do in fact get 1st round compensation for Turner, then we missed the boat because although Betts isn't a superstar, he's just as good, if not better than, Turner.

And just who is offering us a first rounder for Betts? San Diego hasn't gone looking for teams to trade Turner to, the teams have come to Turner.

Barring an overwhelming offer and, for all the reasons previously stated, trading Betts is just a dumb idea.