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Old 04-29-2007, 04:01 PM   #1
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What pressure did we have in the '05 season. If you remember correctly the Charger game we were up near the end of the game and we let them come back because of the picnic that Brees was having in the pocket during passing plays. Brees would spread some Dijon, then cut his sandwich in triangle fourths, and then decide between his 5th or 6th checked down reciever.

We needed DE's after the '05 season just like we need it now. A. Carter is a start he's not the end of our DE stablility.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:59 PM   #2
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What pressure did we have in the '05 season. If you remember correctly the Charger game we were up near the end of the game and we let them come back because of the picnic that Brees was having in the pocket during passing plays. Brees would spread some Dijon, then cut his sandwich in triangle fourths, and then decide between his 5th or 6th checked down reciever.

We needed DE's after the '05 season just like we need it now. A. Carter is a start he's not the end of our DE stablility.
Too bad no one in our FO / coaches think the D Line is important . What is really amazing is how our div. oppt's draft at least 1 DL-Men just about every year and all 3 of them have good pass rushers . We might have more 30 + year olds on our OL / DL than NY / PH / D combined . Sartz and blades will probably be good players in a year or two ,,, we need DL help now ! Good news we can draft DL in rds 1-2 & 3 next year , now that we have spent 8 draft picks on LB's the past 3 years . Why did they let Pierce go ?
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:05 PM   #3
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They've needed defensive ends since they lost Marco Coleman! Apparently, no matter who the coach is, Washington just doesn't believe in pressure from the front four. I like Andre Carter more than most of the people on this board, but the team still needs another end and I think they need about 2 defensive tackles who can play. Just horrendous...
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:19 PM   #4
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I would have love to have gotten a DE but there were no stud DE in the draft (not even Gaines Adams IMO). We addressed one of our other need in picking LL.

Our secondary will be a lot healthier and faster. Our LBs will be better with Fletcher in the middle and our DL will be healthier. Not to mentions that our rookies got a lot of play time last year so we'll have quality depth in DL.

I think we will be fine.
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:21 PM   #5
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I know everybody says that the D Line was not healthy last year. However, I don't think Daniels, Griffin, and/or Salave'a are gonna stay healthy this year either. All of them are getting a little long in the tooth and Griffin's had injury problems his whole career. I don't think they're bad players, I just don't think they can stay healthy.
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:56 PM   #6
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I live in Florida, so I certainly know about the Blades family. He definitely has the pedigree. We'll see how he works out.

I personally am really annoyed that we haven't even made an effort to acquire D-line help. It's our most pressing need, and we have totally ignored it, both in free agency and the draft. Arghhhh. We better get Kris Jenkins...

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Well, after the Landry pick, theres not much you can do by way of DL. Best case scenario, you get another Golston.

I really wanted Okoye, but I'll be satisfied with the Landry pick assuming two things:

1) In the 2008 draft, we invest AT LEAST two day one picks into the DL, at least one at DT.
2) If Sean Taylor continues to regress as a coverage safety, we stop making excuses, and cut his ass.

Taylor and Landry could be a very dominant safety duo for many years, but if Sean keeps biting on every semblance of play action he sees, no one will even bother to throw in Landry's direction. We need competant safety play next to Landry and if Taylor can alter his game a bit to bring it, wonderful. If he can't, get someone in there who can.
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:02 PM   #7
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Well, after the Landry pick, theres not much you can do by way of DL. Best case scenario, you get another Golston.

I really wanted Okoye, but I'll be satisfied with the Landry pick assuming two things:

1) In the 2008 draft, we invest AT LEAST two day one picks into the DL, at least one at DT.
2) If Sean Taylor continues to regress as a coverage safety, we stop making excuses, and cut his ass.

Taylor and Landry could be a very dominant safety duo for many years, but if Sean keeps biting on every semblance of play action he sees, no one will even bother to throw in Landry's direction. We need competant safety play next to Landry and if Taylor can alter his game a bit to bring it, wonderful. If he can't, get someone in there who can.
Whoa, cut Shawn Taylor? Dude lemme smoke summa that...but for real we had the guy over burdened big time cause the starting WIL couldn't hold his own. We strecthed him too far that caused his "regression" if u want to call it that. I'll hold him hostage before i let him out of a Skins uniform...
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:53 PM   #8
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If we lose a lot next year, it will be because of poor play from Jason Campbell, and an inability to stop the run or pressure the passer- (Or unexpected injuries and the like.) Honestly, the Grilliams system is excellent at stopping the run if he can clog the box and his LB's and secondary can make open field tackles. The problem with our defense in 04 and 05 was that we had to blitz to get pressure, and if our cornerbacks and safeties missed tackles, we gave up very long runs. I would be more than happy with a defense next year that approaches that level. If it does, the burden will really be shifted back to JC, Saunders and the offense. If you remember our lone JGII playoff year, it was 100% the offense that caused us to lose at Seattle. We forced turnovers, knocked out MVP Alexander, and kept it close. We just could not capitalize when we had possession. With all this talk about DL this and defense that, I would not be surprised to be sunk by the offense next year. I mean, have our players adapted to the Saunders approach, and do we have the type of players that thrive in his system? Saunders, like Williams, has an outstanding track record of recent success. The best we can hope for is a return to form on D, and serious progress on O. If those two things happen, and I will give 50-50 odds on both, we should be a very competitive team next year.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:12 PM   #9
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come on bud the skins FO has a plan but none of us are smart enough to figure it out. You cant go wrong with experince we have enough on our oline/dline. Maybe the skins think we will get some kinda senior citizen discount for the age on our dline.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:24 PM   #10
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I can't understand why people are so upset that we didn't take DL players with our late round picks. Late round picks are not going to make an impact 99 out of 100 times. You have to take the best player available and hope you hit on something. On top of that, we took two late round picks for the DL last year. It is very possible that the staff didn't see anybody that late in the draft that they felt would do better than Golston and Montgomery.

2nd or 3rd round, yeah. 6th or 7th round, we already did that.
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come on bud the skins FO has a plan but none of us are smart enough to figure it out. You cant go wrong with experince we have enough on our oline/dline. Maybe the skins think we will get some kinda senior citizen discount for the age on our dline.

The offseason isn't over yet. If they do not get a FA or two on the line, then I agree with you but the fact that they didn't use the 6th and 7th round picks on the line doesn't bother me.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:40 PM   #12
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The offseason isn't over yet. If they do not get a FA or two on the line, then I agree with you but the fact that they didn't use the 6th and 7th round picks on the line doesn't bother me.
Exactly. There's always the possibility of a trade, or a June 1 cut.
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Exactly. There's always the possibility of a trade, or a June 1 cut.

At this point, anybody traded obviously didn't fit the bill for their former team. Even moreso post-June 1. Nobody throws out solid D-lineman.

If someone told you that after last year, following the brutal assault from Tiki Barber and the Giants with their running attack in the final game of the season, that we would not have drafted ONE defensive linemen, or signed one via free agency, would you have believed them?
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At this point, anybody traded obviously didn't fit the bill for their former team. Even moreso post-June 1. Nobody throws out solid D-lineman.

If someone told you that after last year, following the brutal assault from Tiki Barber and the Giants with their running attack in the final game of the season, that we would not have drafted ONE defensive linemen, or signed one via free agency, would you have believed them?
YES , because it seems like I have been hoping for them to draft D-Line for the past 16 years !! I like Landry , and both LB's could start in the NFL ,,, I just fear Griff or Carter going down and we are doomed .
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:28 PM   #15
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come on bud the skins FO has a plan but none of us are smart enough to figure it out. You cant go wrong with experince we have enough on our oline/dline. Maybe the skins think we will get some kinda senior citizen discount for the age on our dline.
I think you are on to something . Looks like the Bears are shopping DE A. Brown < on KFFL's website > . It would be nice to have some youth at DL & OL , so we could coach and work these guys into our line up . Lets hope Golston comes in hungry with a shot at some more playing time . I really thought we were going to trade our 08 2nd and grab on the the DE's in the third rd . Lets hope Danials /Griff & Salavae stay healthy this year and Rogers has a break out season !
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