Here comes Sally

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Name me one NFL player or coach that is a female. I can focus on whatever I wish.

Dude, that's way out of line..seriously.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Name me one NFL player or coach that is a female. I can focus on whatever I wish.

You didn't specify NFL previously, you just said football.

Either way, gender isn't and shouldn't be the issue here. Let's move on.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Dude, that's way out of line..seriously.

I'm not looking to start up. But how is that out of line sir?

[Lady Brave]

JDALY,

Not to start anything with you, but I could say that I know a lot of men who don't know shit about football either.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

JDALY,

Not to start anything with you, but I could say that I know a lot of men who don't know shit about football either.

I would definitely agree with that.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

I'm not looking to start up. But how is that out of line sir?

It just is, no need to hash it out. C'mon, man you know better.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

JDALY,

Not to start anything with you, but I could say that I know a lot of men who don't know shit about football either.

I guess you're right about that. Sally puts a very bad taste in my mouth. I just don't think that I would be a good writer when it came to field hockey or getting my hair done or another activity that men don't participate in.....

[GhettoDogAllStars]

First she says that the players' absence is a "sure sign of trouble":
"For Springs and Taylor to pull no-shows is...a sure sign of trouble."

Then, she goes on to say how it's not anything new:
"But Taylor has been completely unreachable -- as usual. The fact is, the 24-year-old Taylor has never really been reachable, in any sense."

If this behavior is not new, and it hasn't been a problem in the past, what is the big deal now?

[FRPLG]

I agree with the mods..let's get back on track with dissecting Jenkins' latest piece of tripe.

Matty-yes we can now set our watches again. Sally has chimed in and the universe is right once again.

Smoot-exactly what I was thinking. While I don't lend a lot of credence to what Carter says I also don't think he is a dumbass. In this case though it sounds more like someone speaking off the cuff and not really thinking about it. How does he know how all those coahces deal with this stuff? I doubt he really does. Just spouting off it seems to me.

On the whole she does raise some interesting points that I would tend to agree with slightly but she clearly roots all of her assertions in bias and agenda. She doesn't like Snyder and doesn't really like the Skins. Who cares? It is not her job to like them. But it is also not her job to DISLIKE them and commit to bash whenever she feels like it or it is convenient. Pieces like this would get a lot more respect from me if she didn't wait until turbulent times (or perceived turbulent times) to write pieces on the Skins. It just seems like she waits until it is opportune to bash them and never writes anything positive even when things are going well. That's crap. Journalists don't get the luxury of having their pieces stand alone. Look at the body of work and if it shows bias and agenda then you have to discount everything accordingly. It is the same with Pastabelly. He writes decent stuff a lot but he also writes a ton of crap and not just about the Skins. It is why he has so is losing respect with many.

[sbaughone]

gimme a break. sally jenkins is the worst kind of sportswriter there is - the kind that only rehashes old crap to get people riled up. I don't give a dern if she's a man or a woman. What bugs me is that she weaves these little tales out of her manhattan apartment. The bottom line is simple: springs and taylor are holding out because of money. Sean Taylor signed the contract - an $18 million dollar contract. That might not be much to him, but it's a heckuva lot to me. And shawn springs is 32. That might not be too old to do my puny job, but it's fair to ask if he's getting too old to play professional football. So blame these guys if you want, but please, don't try and say this is Gibbs fault because he drafted the best player in the draft, who just happens to also play safety. To do that is to agree with jenkins and admit that you really don't either understand football or business.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by sbaughone

gimme a break. sally jenkins is the worst kind of sportswriter there is - the kind that only rehashes old crap to get people riled up. I don't give a dern if she's a man or a woman. What bugs me is that she weaves these little tales out of her manhattan apartment. The bottom line is simple: springs and taylor are holding out because of money. Sean Taylor signed the contract - an $18 million dollar contract. That might not be much to him, but it's a heckuva lot to me. And shawn springs is 32. That might not be too old to do my puny job, but it's fair to ask if he's getting too old to play professional football. So blame these guys if you want, but please, don't try and say this is Gibbs fault because he drafted the best player in the draft, who just happens to also play safety. To do that is to agree with jenkins and admit that you really don't either understand football or business.

Nice post!

[BigSKINBauer]

... Bitch.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by sbaughone

gimme a break. sally jenkins is the worst kind of sportswriter there is - the kind that only rehashes old crap to get people riled up. I don't give a dern if she's a man or a woman. What bugs me is that she weaves these little tales out of her manhattan apartment. The bottom line is simple: springs and taylor are holding out because of money. Sean Taylor signed the contract - an $18 million dollar contract. That might not be much to him, but it's a heckuva lot to me. And shawn springs is 32. That might not be too old to do my puny job, but it's fair to ask if he's getting too old to play professional football. So blame these guys if you want, but please, don't try and say this is Gibbs fault because he drafted the best player in the draft, who just happens to also play safety. To do that is to agree with jenkins and admit that you really don't either understand football or business.

I haven't read anywhere that Springs is actually holding oput for more money. He's making some pretty decent change actually. Taylor has a fairly legitimate contractual gripe but I think he's just a superstar that is so used to doing anything he damn well pleases that he doesn't care to explain himself for not showing up.

[Misterbillysells]

I think it's pretty ironic she brings up mike shannahan being in contact with his players given the whole Dan Wilkinson disappearance thing

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Misterbillysells

I think it's pretty ironic she brings up mike shannahan being in contact with his players given the whole Dan Wilkinson disappearance thing

You bring up a good point.

With quite a few NFL teams constantly having disciplinary problems these days, it seems like the Redskins, with the exception of the one Taylor incident,rarely pop up on the radar screen.

I think you can attribute some of this to Gibbs' "being in touch."