ESPN: What to watch in the NFC

SmootSmack · 07-25-2007, 02:50 PM

Clayton is usually pretty on point. If I get a chance this afternoon, I'll try to find out if he meant something else.

12thMan · 07-25-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clayton is usually pretty on point. If I get a chance this afternoon, I'll try to find out if he meant something else.

Tell him 12th said, hey....

wilsowilso · 07-25-2007, 04:49 PM

I have such a good feeling about our young Quarterback and I'm sure it's just complete homerism, but I tell you I think JC is going to absolutely break out this year! This whole manage the game stuff is great and all, but this kid has the potential to be an All Pro. His pocket presence is a major strength and as much as I like Clayton I usually get the feeling that he doesn't get a chance to see the Redskins all that often. Seems like he just looked at the stats and made an educated guess about what a young quarterback would generally need to work on kind of thing.

Bill B · 07-25-2007, 05:29 PM

Just imagine - if JC actually had a legitmate #2 reciever how much better he would look.

Giantone · 07-25-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

ESPN - Clayton: NFC story lines heading into training camp - NFL

Washington Redskins -- Players have been raving about the development of quarterback Jason Campbell. He has had an excellent offseason, but outsiders have to see how he is developing as a starter. Campbell didn't have a great pocket presence in his first year, but he was in a tough spot. Now, this is his team and his time to prove his ability.

What else do you expect the players to say?:smashfrea

dmek25 · 07-25-2007, 08:16 PM

i agree. none of this matters until the real deal, the games. but i do respect Clayton's opinions

dblanch66 · 07-25-2007, 08:36 PM

Compared to what else we have, I'll live with JC's "lack of pocket presence". Brunell practically tap dances back there and Collins just sucks.

70Chip · 07-25-2007, 09:35 PM

His pocket presence was fine. His huddle presence needs to be Theismannized by about 15%. Laid back is for surfers and potheads. He needs to get a little more vocal with certain receivers who looked lost and will remain nameless because you guys know who I mean anyway.

hooskins · 07-25-2007, 10:15 PM

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Yeah, I thought that was a little weirdly stated too. Clayton is good typically so I gave him a pass on that.

Yeah he is pretty good with stuff like that. Maybe he looked at Campbell's completion percentage and assumed it correlated with pocket presence even though that makes no sense at all.

hesscl34 · 07-25-2007, 10:32 PM

pocket presence... hmmmmm... let's think about that. He's 6 4' and has to bend deep at the knee to even get a good snap and he runs a good mile back before he throws (long legs).... he's back there a while. Scrambles well, keeps his head up..looks long. Young, learning, being conservative.. waiting for the right play, feeling it out and finding his home in the pocket. All seems pretty normal to me for a young QB with a rocket for an arm. Blast them all (sports writers). JC is going to be GREAt as soon as he learns the system. Count on it.

freddyg12 · 07-25-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

What else do you expect the players to say?:smashfrea

nothing

JGisLordOfTheRings · 07-26-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

Compared to what else we have, I'll live with JC's "lack of pocket presence". Brunell practically tap dances back there and Collins just sucks.

They are the kings of suck. Collins may know the offense but that doesnt do you any good when you like to throw the ball to defensive lineman.

Todd Collins: nominated for douche-bag of the decade

GTripp0012 · 07-26-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I wonder how many of these guys browse Warpath then go and put their articles together?

None. Thats called research. Research is for nerds and lesser wimps. Not for badass sportswriters.

Or so the legend goes.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 07-26-2007, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clayton is usually pretty on point. If I get a chance this afternoon, I'll try to find out if he meant something else.

Want to trade jobs? I'll throw in my girlfriend too.

SmootSmack · 07-26-2007, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Want to trade jobs? I'll throw in my girlfriend too.

It's not like me and Clayton are drinking buddies or anything like that. In fact, usually when I talk to him it's through another person who works on NFL programming.

That said, I never got a chance today to reach out to him

07-25-2007, 02:50 PM	#16
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC Clayton is usually pretty on point. If I get a chance this afternoon, I'll try to find out if he meant something else. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-25-2007, 04:49 PM	#18
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC I have such a good feeling about our young Quarterback and I'm sure it's just complete homerism, but I tell you I think JC is going to absolutely break out this year! This whole manage the game stuff is great and all, but this kid has the potential to be an All Pro. His pocket presence is a major strength and as much as I like Clayton I usually get the feeling that he doesn't get a chance to see the Redskins all that often. Seems like he just looked at the stats and made an educated guess about what a young quarterback would generally need to work on kind of thing.

07-25-2007, 05:29 PM	#19
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC Just imagine - if JC actually had a legitmate #2 reciever how much better he would look.

07-25-2007, 08:16 PM	#21
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC i agree. none of this matters until the real deal, the games. but i do respect Clayton's opinions __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

07-25-2007, 08:36 PM	#22
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC Compared to what else we have, I'll live with JC's "lack of pocket presence". Brunell practically tap dances back there and Collins just sucks.

07-25-2007, 09:35 PM	#23
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC His pocket presence was fine. His huddle presence needs to be Theismannized by about 15%. Laid back is for surfers and potheads. He needs to get a little more vocal with certain receivers who looked lost and will remain nameless because you guys know who I mean anyway. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

07-25-2007, 10:32 PM	#25
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: ESPN: What to watch in the NFC pocket presence... hmmmmm... let's think about that. He's 6 4' and has to bend deep at the knee to even get a good snap and he runs a good mile back before he throws (long legs).... he's back there a while. Scrambles well, keeps his head up..looks long. Young, learning, being conservative.. waiting for the right play, feeling it out and finding his home in the pocket. All seems pretty normal to me for a young QB with a rocket for an arm. Blast them all (sports writers). JC is going to be GREAt as soon as he learns the system. Count on it.

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