Tiki at it again

BrudLee · 09-04-2007, 09:54 PM

Coughlin's got some issues, but here's how I'd weigh his contributions to the game:

93-83-0 (Regular Season)
4-6 (Postseason)
97-89-0 (Overall)

Which, by and large, ain't too shabby.

Tiki's got some issues, too. But if he looked hard at his career, he'd realize Coughlin wasn't really one of them.

TDs from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 26
TDs from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 27
YPC from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 4.47
YPC from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 5.03
Fumbles per Touch (Rush/Rec) from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 2.14%
Fumbles per Touch (Rush/Rec) from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 0.77%

He may have "killed the love of the game", but by nearly every measurable stat, he resuscitated Tiki's ability to play it. If Tiki makes the Hall of Fame, he can attribute it to two things - Tom Coughlin, and the fact that the Redskins couldn't stop him... ever.

47YAC · 09-04-2007, 10:29 PM

joe gibbs owned tiki barber and made him pick all his cotton and if you doubt that unregister your name now.

70Chip · 09-04-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 47YAC

joe gibbs owned tiki barber and made him pick all his cotton and if you doubt that unregister your name now.

Go away you horrible crackpot.

BrudLee · 09-04-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 47YAC

joe gibbs owned tiki barber and made him pick all his cotton and if you doubt that unregister your name now.

You.

Banned.

Now.

Longtimefan · 09-04-2007, 11:48 PM

Tiki keeps talking, Coughlin get's fired, the Giants pay him the 10mil. he says they owe him, and he returns to the team to become a thorn in our side again. I don't ever want to see him in a Giant's uniform again. I truly hope he does not talk himself off the set, he might decide to play again.

Dirtbag59 · 09-05-2007, 12:13 AM

I think that now with Tony Dungy winning a super bowl a new prescadence has been set about how players expect coaches to treat them. Before players would look at 'nice guy' coaches and say they seem nice to play for but if I want to win I got play for a guy who barely knows how to smile.

Tiki might have taken a look at the Colts and throught thats the kind of coach I want to play for. The type of coach that treats his players with the respect and class they deserve (though this is up for debate concerning certain players).

If I had to label Gibbs coaching style then I would label him as a Parcells/Dungy hybrid.

dall-assblows · 09-05-2007, 12:28 AM

i used to respect tiki but callin out all your teammates and coaches, even if it is just to sell a book, is cowardice. if you were unhappy with it at the time then deal with it then.

stop dwelling in the past tiki, time to move on.

Longtimefan · 09-05-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dall-assblows

i used to respect tiki but callin out all your teammates and coaches, even if it is just to sell a book, is cowardice. if you were unhappy with it at the time then deal with it then.

stop dwelling in the past tiki, time to move on.

When the Tom Friend article apeared last year in the WasPost and created such a stir, I recall Antonio Pierce boasting about what great organizational unity existed within the Giants organization, contrary to what he had experienced at times while he was here. I wonder if his take now is still the same.

70Chip · 09-05-2007, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

When the Tom Friend article apeared last year in the WasPost and created such a stir, I recall Antonio Pierce boasting about what great organizational unity existed within the Giants organization, contrary to what he had experienced at times while he was here. I wonder if his take now is still the same.

Yes. They are unified by their hatred of Coughlin.

dmek25 · 09-05-2007, 07:11 AM

you know the way i look at it? who cares who hates who, as long as those guys play on Sunday. and the giants have back to back playoff appearances. so Tiki, quit crying, and shut the f*** up

hagams · 09-05-2007, 07:26 AM

It sounds weird saying this about a retired player, but the only person he's really hurting is himself. It sounds like he still has to prove something, I just don't think anyone cares. He's yesterday's news.

Rajmahal33 · 09-05-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hagams

It sounds weird saying this about a retired player, but the only person he's really hurting is himself. It sounds like he still has to prove something, I just don't think anyone cares. He's yesterday's news.

Its true, nobody really cares. Its not like Giants fans are now calling for Coughlins retirement (any more so than before the comments were made). If anything they are going the other way and realizing how Tiki's numbers were much better under TC and that the validity of Tiki's previous criticism of TC is now questionable. Is it actually TC's fault or is Tiki just a little soft, whiny baby?

SC Skins Fan · 09-05-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

Tiki was planning to retire all season. He announced it way before he knew Coughlin was going to keep his job.

The way it is being reported is wrong. Tiki said that Coughlin made him lose his love for the game not that he would have come back had Coughlin gotten fired. The point is that he stopped loving football playing under Coughlin. Once you lose that fire it wouldn't have mattered if a new coach came in or not. Obviously it is not nearly on the same level, but I kind of understand as I had a similar experience playing college football. I had a bad coach, a program that was not committed to winning, and playing football just was not the same for me. Football was my life and then I got in a situation where it just was not fun anymore and I ended up transferring and giving up football. I'm biased as I'm a Tiki fan from back in the UVa days, but I understand what he's saying and I think the reporting of his comments doesn't quite capture the meaning.

birdz4gibbs · 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ribbs BBQ

Tiki always had great games against the skins.... glad hes gone and Im also glad hes running his mouth, he will put his foot in more and more until no one likes him anymore..... pretty soon he will say his brother sucks at football and cant play either

yeah really thats because his brother has a ring and he doesn,t.lol
to me he,s just another mouth in the media at this point...

firstdown · 09-05-2007, 10:20 AM

To be fair Tiki also gave him credit for helping him become a better running back so its not like he just bashed the guy. He gave his view both bad and good.

09-04-2007, 09:54 PM	#16
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Tiki at it agian Coughlin's got some issues, but here's how I'd weigh his contributions to the game: 93-83-0 (Regular Season) 4-6 (Postseason) 97-89-0 (Overall) Which, by and large, ain't too shabby. Tiki's got some issues, too. But if he looked hard at his career, he'd realize Coughlin wasn't really one of them. TDs from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 26 TDs from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 27 YPC from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 4.47 YPC from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 5.03 Fumbles per Touch (Rush/Rec) from 1997-2003 (pre-Coughlin): 2.14% Fumbles per Touch (Rush/Rec) from 2004-2006 (Coughlinian): 0.77% He may have "killed the love of the game", but by nearly every measurable stat, he resuscitated Tiki's ability to play it. If Tiki makes the Hall of Fame, he can attribute it to two things - Tom Coughlin, and the fact that the Redskins couldn't stop him... ever. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

09-04-2007, 10:29 PM	#17
47YAC Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 20	Re: Tiki at it agian joe gibbs owned tiki barber and made him pick all his cotton and if you doubt that unregister your name now.

09-04-2007, 11:48 PM	#20
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Tiki at it again Tiki keeps talking, Coughlin get's fired, the Giants pay him the 10mil. he says they owe him, and he returns to the team to become a thorn in our side again. I don't ever want to see him in a Giant's uniform again. I truly hope he does not talk himself off the set, he might decide to play again. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

09-05-2007, 12:13 AM	#21
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Tiki at it again I think that now with Tony Dungy winning a super bowl a new prescadence has been set about how players expect coaches to treat them. Before players would look at 'nice guy' coaches and say they seem nice to play for but if I want to win I got play for a guy who barely knows how to smile. Tiki might have taken a look at the Colts and throught thats the kind of coach I want to play for. The type of coach that treats his players with the respect and class they deserve (though this is up for debate concerning certain players). If I had to label Gibbs coaching style then I would label him as a Parcells/Dungy hybrid. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

09-05-2007, 12:28 AM	#22
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: Tiki at it again i used to respect tiki but callin out all your teammates and coaches, even if it is just to sell a book, is cowardice. if you were unhappy with it at the time then deal with it then. stop dwelling in the past tiki, time to move on. __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

09-05-2007, 07:11 AM	#25
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Tiki at it again you know the way i look at it? who cares who hates who, as long as those guys play on Sunday. and the giants have back to back playoff appearances. so Tiki, quit crying, and shut the f*** up __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

09-05-2007, 07:26 AM	#26
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 45 Posts: 933	Re: Tiki at it again It sounds weird saying this about a retired player, but the only person he's really hurting is himself. It sounds like he still has to prove something, I just don't think anyone cares. He's yesterday's news. __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

09-05-2007, 10:20 AM	#30
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Tiki at it again To be fair Tiki also gave him credit for helping him become a better running back so its not like he just bashed the guy. He gave his view both bad and good.

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