If Gibbs Goes, Who coaches next year?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

If Williams doesn't get the job, he's leaving and probably taking Blache and Grey with him. If he doesn't get the job when Gibbs leaves which I don't believe will happen until 2009, we have to start over on defense. Not to say that should decide the thing, but it has to be part of the equation.

I personally don't see Gregg Williams or Saunders getting the job no matter how Gibbs leaves this team or when he leaves as head coach. But at any rate, I say it's all a moot point until the season is over.

[Oakland Red]

Of all the stupid, shallow ideas, this one takes the cake. This team was nearly destroyed by Dan Snyder, and the only reason we have hope for the future is Joe Gibbs' leadership. It takes time to get the mess Coach Gibbs was handed into the team everyone wants. The building blocks are in place, but we need to get to a point where Jason Campbell has some more experience and we can get free of the injury bug.

Snyder changed coaches all the time and the people who want Coach Gibbs to be fired are just as faulty as Snyder was before he brought Joe back.

If Coach Gibbs is not here as the CEO/Coach, we are in trouble. I give Snyder credit for bringing Coach Gibbs back - Snyder knew that he would be run out of town before long if he didn't do something dramatic and let go of the reins.

I hope that Coach Gibbs will stay beyond his current contract, get the team into top shape, and then stay on as General Manager.

I think that as soon as next year we could contend for the Super Bowl title, if we have a reasonable injury picture, and Campbell continues to develop.

PATIENCE is what is needed. Any decisions based on short sighted impatience are only going to lead to misery for Redskins fans.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

Of all the stupid, shallow ideas, this one takes the cake. This team was nearly destroyed by Dan Snyder, and the only reason we have hope for the future is Joe Gibbs' leadership. It takes time to get the mess Coach Gibbs was handed into the team everyone wants. The building blocks are in place, but we need to get to a point where Jason Campbell has some more experience and we can get free of the injury bug.

Snyder changed coaches all the time and the people who want Coach Gibbs to be fired are just as faulty as Snyder was before he brought Joe back.

If Coach Gibbs is not here as the CEO/Coach, we are in trouble. I give Snyder credit for bringing Coach Gibbs back - Snyder knew that he would be run out of town before long if he didn't do something dramatic and let go of the reins.

I hope that Coach Gibbs will stay beyond his current contract, get the team into top shape, and then stay on as General Manager.

I think that as soon as next year we could contend for the Super Bowl title, if we have a reasonable injury picture, and Campbell continues to develop.

PATIENCE is what is needed. Any decisions based on short sighted impatience are only going to lead to misery for Redskins fans.

Thank you!! Another smart Bay Area fan that knows his football. Everyone, read this. PATIENCE!!!! You don't build a championship overnite.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

Of all the stupid, shallow ideas, this one takes the cake. This team was nearly destroyed by Dan Snyder, and the only reason we have hope for the future is Joe Gibbs' leadership. It takes time to get the mess Coach Gibbs was handed into the team everyone wants. The building blocks are in place, but we need to get to a point where Jason Campbell has some more experience and we can get free of the injury bug.

Snyder changed coaches all the time and the people who want Coach Gibbs to be fired are just as faulty as Snyder was before he brought Joe back.

If Coach Gibbs is not here as the CEO/Coach, we are in trouble. I give Snyder credit for bringing Coach Gibbs back - Snyder knew that he would be run out of town before long if he didn't do something dramatic and let go of the reins.

I hope that Coach Gibbs will stay beyond his current contract, get the team into top shape, and then stay on as General Manager.

I think that as soon as next year we could contend for the Super Bowl title, if we have a reasonable injury picture, and Campbell continues to develop.

PATIENCE is what is needed. Any decisions based on short sighted impatience are only going to lead to misery for Redskins fans.

Lets bring you into todays NFL. Gibbs has been here 4 years. lets see 5-11, 10-6, 5-11 and now 5-4. same stupid stuff happens today, that happened 4 years ago. in 4 years there should be a change in terms of wins and losses, a gradual increase in production. With the payroll , the talent, the unlimited resourses of money this team should not be fighting year in and year out to finish .500. In todays NFL you have to win and win now. If you rebuild, then the 3rd year of that rebuilding you should be competing and going to the playoffs. We are stuck in neutral every damn year. Plus in todays NFL you have about a 4 year stretch with the current roster. This is why the draft and talent scouts are so important. so when you have to dump players (marcus washington, griffin, portis, moss) in the next year, we have talent that can step in and never miss a beat. we are far from that!!

lets go back a few years, Joe Gibbs did not build his teams in the 80's and 90's. He coached the talent drafted for him, and brought in by Casserly and Bethard. I do not want Joe to become the Talent evaluator for our organization.
Look, Joe has to go brother. we are in no better shape now than we were 4 years ago, hell 6 years ago for that fact. I dont want to hear about how we have this guy or that guy. fact is no matter who we have here right now, we are not winning. we didn't win with Norv, Marty (8-8), Spurrier and we aren't winning with Joe.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

If Williams doesn't get the job, he's leaving and probably taking Blache and Grey with him. If he doesn't get the job when Gibbs leaves which I don't believe will happen until 2009, we have to start over on defense. Not to say that should decide the thing, but it has to be part of the equation.

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I personally don't see Gregg Williams or Saunders getting the job no matter how Gibbs leaves this team or when he leaves as head coach. But at any rate, I say it's all a moot point until the season is over.

Good points from both of you. My sense is that if Dan Snyder had the power to dismiss assistant coaches, Williams would have been gone last year, and Saunders would have been shown the door at some point over the last few games. Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin for these two guys. I'd bet he's chomping at the bit to take the axe to someone.

But he won't dare touch Gibbs.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Good points from both of you. My sense is that if Dan Snyder had the power to dismiss assistant coaches, Williams would have been gone last year, and Saunders would have been shown the door at some point over the last few games. Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin for these two guys. I'd bet he's chomping at the bit to take the axe to someone.

But he won't dare touch Gibbs.

Not trying to be a smartass, but how do you know "Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin...?" Have there been public statements or interviews that would confirm this statement? Also, all the talk about Cowher possibly coming to D.C. has not addressed the very real possibility of him going somewhere else like Charlotte. They suck more than we do and they may be ready to pull the trigger for a new coach after this season. Didn't Cowher purchase property in N.C. somewhere anyway?

[jsarno]

I don't know who will be available, but I bet Cowher would at least get a couple calls from Snyder if Gibbs does leave.

[Daseal]

If that happens Greg Williams will be our next head coach, Blache gets the nod at DC, and OC is up for grabs.

[MTRedskinsFan]

New head coach? There's a guy I know, right here in Montana! He's like the winningest coach in NAIA history. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Campbell17

This loss is frustrating enough to start with, but with the anti-Gibbs hate, we are just making things even worse. Honestly, if Gibbs steps down, who will his replacement be? I can't think of anyone on the spot that makes any sense, and if Gibbs goes, we need someone who can do a good job stepping in. We know how to have bad coaches, 7 years of Norv Turner, Spurrier, etc.

It almost hurts to say, but the Gibbs II era has been a lot like the Turner era, in that the Skins constantly embarass themselves by losing games they shouldn't. They show up on Sunday as the less prepared team, and I'm not talking X's and O's here, I'm talking mental preparation. That being said, what would be the point in replacing Gibbs? What coach is going to do a better job? Since he's been back, the Skins have been competitive. It's not his fault we have one of the worst defensive lines in the game, nor is it his fault 63.8 percent of the team is hampered by hamstring injuries right now. The problems run deeper than the head coach, and looking for the quick fix is definitely not the solution.

[Lewis]

At this point, I don't really care who the coach is as long as it isn't Grandfather Gibbs. If we were able to switch players with New England, NE would continue being a great team and the redskins would continue being the redskins.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Lewis

At this point, I don't really care who the coach is as long as it isn't Grandfather Gibbs. If we were able to switch players with New England, NE would continue being a great team and the redskins would continue being the redskins.

Your off to poor start Lewis.

[mlmpetert]

I think Lewis is right on.

Speaking of NE how about one of their assistants.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I think Lewis is right on.

Speaking of NE how about one of their assistants.

If we could just get one of Bellichek's hoodies, maybe that would help.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I think Lewis is right on.

Speaking of NE how about one of their assistants.

Holy Shit Batman! That's exactly what I was thinking when your post appeared.