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Old 11-14-2007, 03:21 PM   #16
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Isn't that a warning flag? Needing to resort to illegal substances to cope with a mental issue? Isn't that a good sign that the weed use will continue? And remember, weed use gets you suspended in the NFL. And you can't help your team if you're suspended in the NFL.

I know you said you don't see an issue with giving the guy a second chance, but hopefully you didn't mean for the Redskins. Maybe there's no issue morally with giving him a second chance, but any team that does is idiotic in my opinion.

Guys with issues like that become locker room problems, evidenced by his bailing on the Dolphins and getting repeatedly suspended. Not very good for your salary cap to carry a guy who has a good chance of getting suspended.
There are plenty of people out there that turn to "alternative" meds when prescriptions don't work. I think the biggest crime is that there are true medicinal properties of weed that aren't being taken advantage of due to it being illegal, as well as economic benefits, but that's a discussion for a different day.

No, I wouldn't want the Skins to be the team giving him another chance, just as I expect the Dolphins would want no part of him now. But, he should be allowed the chance to come back if someone wants him.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:41 PM   #17
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There are plenty of people out there that turn to "alternative" meds when prescriptions don't work. I think the biggest crime is that there are true medicinal properties of weed that aren't being taken advantage of due to it being illegal, as well as economic benefits, but that's a discussion for a different day.

No, I wouldn't want the Skins to be the team giving him another chance, just as I expect the Dolphins would want no part of him now. But, he should be allowed the chance to come back if someone wants him.
OK, yeah I can agree with that. He's served his time, so yeah, I agree he should be allowed back.

But man, if you're the GM of a team, and you know that pot gets you banned from games, and you know that there's a good chance this guy is going to continue smoking pot, you'd have to be an idiot. Or a team with absolutely nothing to lose for the rest of the season.

Nevermind the validity of using pot as an alternative medicine, because that has no relevance on the NFL's substance abuse policy. Ricky should be allowed back, but given that pot gets you banned, bringing him back can't possibly be a good idea for just about any NFL team.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:51 PM   #18
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I think he plays this year. For who? I have no clue but some team is going to need a runing back who has a chance to get into the play offs and give him a call. He puts down his bong and runs like a mad man.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:53 PM   #19
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I would have said Green Bay but Grant is running pretty well... Still wouldn't be the worst place for him. Do they even have weed in GB?
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:16 PM   #20
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I would have said Green Bay but Grant is running pretty well... Still wouldn't be the worst place for him. Do they even have weed in GB?
Well, it is Green Bay
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:39 PM   #21
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

How many chances will he get? Well, as long as there is one GM/coach in the NFL who thinks he can still get it done on the field - when he'a allowed to be on the field - he'll get another chance.

It will be interesting to see if the Dolphins hurry him back to the field - - or if they continue to "question his conditioning" until the end of the season.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:40 PM   #22
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Well, it is Green Bay
Haha. Now that there is funny.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:59 PM   #23
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Miami's General Mgr Randy Mueller was with the Saints and traded Williams to Miami. Now he gets him back.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:42 PM   #24
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I really hate Ricky Williams he makes the NFL look so bad.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:54 PM   #25
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There are plenty of people out there that turn to "alternative" meds when prescriptions don't work. I think the biggest crime is that there are true medicinal properties of weed that aren't being taken advantage of due to it being illegal, as well as economic benefits, but that's a discussion for a different day.

No, I wouldn't want the Skins to be the team giving him another chance, just as I expect the Dolphins would want no part of him now. But, he should be allowed the chance to come back if someone wants him.
Yeah, but there are also medical properties in cocaine as well. The biggest issue is that besides MJ being illegal, it is not regulated. I've heard plenty of non-medical people say marijuana is not harmful, yet I have heard the exact opposite from those in the medical community. Possibly if it was regulated by the food and drug administration, then it would be a different story. I realize it's a moot point either way, considering it is illegal. But, in regards to Williams, his problems go much further than his weed use. If a person is so addicted to a drug (yes, weed IS a drug,) that they cannot quit the habit in order to keep their drug, then there is a big problem. Certainly if I was good enough to play in the NFL and be a productive player, I would not do anything to jeopardize my opportunity.

But at the same time, if RW is truly working to put this behind him, then give him at least one more chance. Sign him to the vet minimum...LOL!
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He has documented issues with social anxiety, and I'd be willing to bet that's the main reason he smokes weed.
Might be? Damn certain the weed is the main reason his career has went UP IN SMOKE.

Enough is enough.

Get stoned and get the hell on with your life without football...it is a privledge to play in this league.

Or stay clean a year or maybe two and play ball (if you have anything left), man up and play by the rules, stop trying to beat the system. It's not working very well.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:31 PM   #27
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Re: Ricky Williams back, how many chances does this guy get?

If i was in the NFL i would probably smoke weed all the time too. Same if i was in Europe and played soccer, there's so much pressure to do well in every game.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:57 AM   #28
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SI.com - NFL - Dolphins welcome back Williams - Thursday November 15, 2007 5:36PM

He is might play this year, he's gotta be trade bait
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:58 AM   #29
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He might play this year..... sorry for the bad grammar
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