Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

GTripp0012 · 01-13-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

0-2 in the playoffs, a 13-3 team gets bounced from the divisional round, what do you think?

Does Romo = choker?

No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...

DynamiteRave · 01-13-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...

What if Giants + Dallas fans agree? And I think there's a GB poster trolling around here..

12thMan · 01-13-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...

Well, in all seriousness let's put some context to this because it really is a legitimate discussion.

Here's a guy that put up great, great numbers during the regular season, and you can see how the Cowboys started to fold down the stretch and it spilled over into the playoffs. To me, a great quarterback can out play his stats. If that makes sense. Like today, for instance, Eli didn't light it up but he didn't lose the game either. Romo showed an incredible lack of poise today and down the stretch this year. And yes, even dating back to the Seattle game last year too.

If we can't label him a bona-fide choker, then he's certainly establishing a trend that's for sure.

GTripp0012 · 01-13-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

What if Giants + Dallas fans agree? And I think there's a GB poster trolling around here..

Well, then the thread is still retarded, but I for one, would at least be entertained.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 · 01-13-2008, 10:00 PM

Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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12thMan · 01-13-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbsmeatitle#1

Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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Bye Bye Boys. Please do let the door hit you repeatedly on the buttocks.

I definitely think they got distracted with the media down the stretch.

Campbell17 · 01-13-2008, 10:04 PM

i saw this coming, he is a choke artist. Was jessica simpson there

SmootSmack · 01-13-2008, 10:06 PM

I'll bet he's hoping Jessica is a choke artist tonight, if you know what I mean...zing!

(too far?)

12thMan · 01-13-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll bet he's hoping Jessica is a choke artist tonight, if you know what I mean...zing!

(too far?)

hahahaha

GTripp0012 · 01-13-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, in all seriousness let's put some context to this because it really is a legitimate discussion.

Here's a guy that put up great, great numbers during the regular season, and you can see how the Cowboys started to fold down the stretch and it spilled over into the playoffs. To me, a great quarterback can out play his stats. If that makes sense. Like today, for instance, Eli didn't light it up, but he didn't lose the game either. Romo showed an incredible lack of poise down the stretch this year. And yes, dating back to the Seattle game last year too.

If we can't label him a bona-fide choker, then he's certainly establishing a trend that's for sure.

You can label him whatever you feel, but it doesn't mean anything more than the fact that you (and pretty much everyone else here, myself included) just don't like the guy very much.

Secondly, the whole notion of outplaying ones stats is a logical fallacy. If it's done, then there are (gasp!) stats to show the improvement.

Eli didn't pass a whole lot, but I thought he pretty much did light it up. He outplayed Romo, this once, and his team deserved to win.

The whole point is, this is just one game, and you can't establish a trend in one, or two, or three games. Heck, some guys have down SEASONS, so it's impossible to prove a guy is less adept at playing in the playoffs, and relatively stupid to call two games any sort of evidence whatsoever.

I think the whole choker argument is ridiculous. We don't need petty labels to enjoy the Cowboys losing another playoff game. All I need is the smile currently on my face.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 · 01-13-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I definitely think they got distracted with the media down the stretch.

Makes me appreciate more what the Pats have done this year. No team has received as much press (good or bad) as them. Shows character and maturity counts. That's why I'm banking that we'll be in the thick of things for years to come regardless of whatever anyone else does in the division.

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RFKRat · 01-13-2008, 10:15 PM

I think at some level, he's a choker. Clearly he's one of those sports figures that loves celebrity status, commericals, the media, etc but hasn't really done a thing to earn any of those accolades yet. Except fail miserably in the postseason twice now.

He was clearly losing it down the stretch there. Making boneheaded decisions. (the sack, throwing it away for the penalty, and the INT into multiple coverage) Getting visibly frustrated with getting hit (as if he thinks football is all just magazine cover shots, etc)....and frustrated with the officials.

Clearly, it wasn't his worst game ever, but he blew up again when the pressure cooker got hot. Was his head in the game? Who knows...but the media will have fun roasting him this week. Especially when this was the first #1 seed to lose this round.

BaltimoreSkins · 01-13-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbsmeatitle#1

Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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Bye Bye Boys. Please do let the door hit you repeatedly on the buttocks.

Don't forget that Romo showed the same drop off the 06 season, at the same point in the regular season, as he did this year.

Redskin Warrior · 01-13-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I think it's about time QB Romeo stops with the little shit-eating grin he's always sporting and gets serious. He had an awful second half.

I don't know if we can call him a choke artist. I mean, the botched FG hold last year was awful, but hats off to Giants DC Spagnolo for his halftime adjustments. The Cowpukes could only muster 3 second half points, and the Giants got tons of pressure of QB Romeo after he went untouched in the 1st half.

I hate Dallas but honestly for some odd reason I like Romo something about him. Romo is star but not a winner it's a big difference example Randall Cummingham was a star not a winner so was Vick. He might not ever be a winner just like those guys.

memphisskin · 01-13-2008, 10:36 PM

Hell yeah he's a choke artist.

According to Webster's Dictionary, choke artist (n) - a player who is unable to rise to the occasion. 2) a player who performs well in the big moments and suddenly shrinks when it really counts, examples include, The Buffalo Bills of the '90s, Marty Schottenheimer, the Cleveland Cavs of the late '80s, Fran Tarkenton, and Tony Romo.

I don't think the vacation had anything to do with it. Rather, it was his inability to rise to the moment. No pass for any Cowturds.

01-13-2008, 10:00 PM	#20
Gibbsmeatitle#1 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 156	Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist? Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach. GMAT ___________ Bye Bye Boys. Please do let the door hit you repeatedly on the buttocks.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist? I'll bet he's hoping Jessica is a choke artist tonight, if you know what I mean...zing! (too far?) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-13-2008, 10:15 PM	#27
RFKRat Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 105	Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist? I think at some level, he's a choker. Clearly he's one of those sports figures that loves celebrity status, commericals, the media, etc but hasn't really done a thing to earn any of those accolades yet. Except fail miserably in the postseason twice now. He was clearly losing it down the stretch there. Making boneheaded decisions. (the sack, throwing it away for the penalty, and the INT into multiple coverage) Getting visibly frustrated with getting hit (as if he thinks football is all just magazine cover shots, etc)....and frustrated with the officials. Clearly, it wasn't his worst game ever, but he blew up again when the pressure cooker got hot. Was his head in the game? Who knows...but the media will have fun roasting him this week. Especially when this was the first #1 seed to lose this round.

01-13-2008, 10:36 PM	#30
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist? Hell yeah he's a choke artist. According to Webster's Dictionary, choke artist (n) - a player who is unable to rise to the occasion. 2) a player who performs well in the big moments and suddenly shrinks when it really counts, examples include, The Buffalo Bills of the '90s, Marty Schottenheimer, the Cleveland Cavs of the late '80s, Fran Tarkenton, and Tony Romo. I don't think the vacation had anything to do with it. Rather, it was his inability to rise to the moment. No pass for any Cowturds.

Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

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