So Now Who Do You Want?

calia · 01-28-2008, 04:56 PM

I think Vince Lombardi would be my pick -- of course, we will need a Ouiji board to get his play calling....

The whole "who do you want" question is difficult to answer without knowing more about what any of the candidates would be able to do in terms of personnel control, selecting assistants, etc.

What irks me about this whole coaching debacle is that we have not had any stability -- we will be on our 5th coach (not counting the brief Robiskie stint) in the 8 years that Snyder has owned the team. There is NO WAY to be successful like this. Imagine this -- let's assume in another 10 years, Danny hasn't learned his lesson about meddling and we go through another 5 coaches. Does anyone think the Redskins go to the Superbowl when faced with that kind of instability? Me neither. Now, granted, Danny was likely as surprised as any of us that Gibbs retirned without returning for the final year of his contract. But to blow it up and start over is an overraction and the mark of someone who has no concept of what it takes to build a successful sports franchise.

Williams gave us the greatest chance at stability. Now, we're starting over (again). Snyer is an impetuous child and we run the risk that he runs this franchise into the ground like Peter Angelos has done with the Baltimore Orioles.

Done my rant (for now).

b4real1 · 01-27-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can we stop talking about Bill Cowher for crying out loud. He's not coming here. Jeez!!! I'll take Meeks.

Cowher waiting for the Cleveland job.....Meeks my choice

Giantone · 01-27-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by b4real1

Cowher waiting for the Cleveland job.....Meeks my choice

??????????????????????huh???

Maybe Carolina,Cleveland just gave Romeo and extention!

SFREDSKIN · 01-27-2008, 01:02 PM

A lot of us pretty much want someone besides fassel, but the bottom line is he will be our next HC. Some of you have mentioned that DS is waiting for the dust to settle from the Williams debacle, I think you guys are correct. If Fassel becomes HC (which I don't want) I will give him 2 years to take us to the SB, if he doesn't then I say NEXT. Snyder doesn't want to bring in an unproven coach with the talent on this team especially being a few players away from the SB. Think about it? Whether you like it or not Fossil will be the next HC.

birdz4gibbs · 01-27-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can we stop talking about Bill Cowher for crying out loud. He's not coming here. Jeez!!! I'll take Meeks.

i agree i go with meeks as well.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-26-2008, 04:24 PM

My brain is about to explode. I can't even think straight.

This thing has gotten so nuts, I really don't know who I'd prefer.

While I'm concerned about the toll this has taken on the team, we're sure to have a VERY exciting season next year, for better or for worse.

I'm torn on Schwartz or Spagnuolo.

SFREDSKIN · 01-26-2008, 04:26 PM

Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him.

SouperMeister · 01-26-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him.

Schwartz runs effectively the same D as Williams, both coming from the Buddy Ryan tree of coaches. I hadn't really thought of Grimm, but that would be interesting as well.

WillH · 01-26-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

My brain is about to explode. I can't even think straight.

This thing has gotten so nuts, I really don't know who I'd prefer.

While I'm concerned about the toll this has taken on the team, we're sure to have a VERY exciting season next year, for better or for worse.

I'm torn on Schwartz or Spagnuolo.

2nd all that . . .Especially Schwartz/Spagnolo . . . for the record I voted Schwartz

wilsowilso · 01-26-2008, 04:25 PM

Barry Switzer. Second choice Ronald McDonald.

BleedBurgundy · 01-26-2008, 04:29 PM

I'm going Cowher. What the hell? Who knows what's going to happen. I could see Fassel, Cowher, Schwartz all working out well or horrible. I have no idea what's going to happen and how it's going to go.

JoeRedskin · 01-26-2008, 04:30 PM

Well - I know who I don't want: Cowher or Fassel.

As for the other three, God knows - who's the best bet? It's an F'ing crapshoot. Whichever one has (in no particular order): a)the balls to stand up to LDS, b) the ability to work with the existing coaching staff and c) the skill to mold a group of professional atheletes into a team.

My initial reaction is Schwartz, but it could just as easily be Meeks or Spag. My problem with all of them is that they all have a bit of the "flavor of the month" about them. Hopefully, we're getting the next Tomlin and not the next Cameron.

GTripp0012 · 01-26-2008, 04:42 PM

Jim Schwartz. Get it done on Monday.

T.O.Killa · 01-26-2008, 05:08 PM

i WANT A NEW OWNER

SBXVII · 01-26-2008, 05:31 PM

Think about it. Who ever comes in now has to be on page with GW's style of defense if you hire a defensive minded HC. You have just named one of his Asst. DC so you need to know a little about it. Or....if you are going to hire an offensive minded HC he has to be knowledgable in the WC style. I think that leaves the Giants coordinator out because he does not run the same defense. It might leave Rex Ryan out because he uses a different style but he may be able to imcorporate his style with our new DC. So now look at who you have, the Titans coordinator which will get along with our system, I'm not so sure about the Colts coordinator and the system he uses. It could be the NE coordinator but I see the Jets fumbling and the Browns are finally starting to get things going after several yrs.

Who's left Cowher and Fassell. Cowher is adamant he will not return until next yr. Although his daughter will be in the area and this would be a great gig for him. Not to mention you have to be in the state a yr before you get in state tuition not that money is an issue. If I were Cowher I would ask for the stars and all the money I could get out of DS and take the job early and mention my daughter as why I decided to take the job. The wonderful father wants to be close. I doubt he is coming though.

That leaves Fassell, the man who is looking to get back into coaching and wanting to revive his career. Perhaps even asking for the job on the cheap. If we do well then Fassell looks like a genius and so does DS. If Fassell stinks it up then it simply proves he's not coaching material.

I'll gaurantee you one thing though. You don't go interviewing people for coordinator jobs without the HC ok on who he wants for his staff. Coordinators do not take jobs not knowing who they would be working for. Everyone has mentiond Dallas but I'm sure Jerry had already had a phone conversation with Phillips and had an agreement prior to the OC getting hired and I'm sure the OC was informed of who the coach would be. I'm betting there is already a HC waiting for the announcement to be made. My gut is it's Fassell who has been directing DS as to who he wouldn't mind having. I could be wrong. This could be a hole assbackwards hiring process. I'm not sure how much Fassell knows about either coordinators style but if you are looking for a job and will take anything you take it and let the coordinators run the show.

View Poll Results: Who Do You Want As the Next Head Coach?
Cowher	49	33.11%
Fassel	12	8.11%
Meeks	20	13.51%
Schwartz	36	24.32%
Spagnuolo	23	15.54%
Mariucci	8	5.41%
Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

01-28-2008, 04:56 PM	#1
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,023	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? I think Vince Lombardi would be my pick -- of course, we will need a Ouiji board to get his play calling.... The whole "who do you want" question is difficult to answer without knowing more about what any of the candidates would be able to do in terms of personnel control, selecting assistants, etc. What irks me about this whole coaching debacle is that we have not had any stability -- we will be on our 5th coach (not counting the brief Robiskie stint) in the 8 years that Snyder has owned the team. There is NO WAY to be successful like this. Imagine this -- let's assume in another 10 years, Danny hasn't learned his lesson about meddling and we go through another 5 coaches. Does anyone think the Redskins go to the Superbowl when faced with that kind of instability? Me neither. Now, granted, Danny was likely as surprised as any of us that Gibbs retirned without returning for the final year of his contract. But to blow it up and start over is an overraction and the mark of someone who has no concept of what it takes to build a successful sports franchise. Williams gave us the greatest chance at stability. Now, we're starting over (again). Snyer is an impetuous child and we run the risk that he runs this franchise into the ground like Peter Angelos has done with the Baltimore Orioles. Done my rant (for now).

01-27-2008, 01:02 PM	#4
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? A lot of us pretty much want someone besides fassel, but the bottom line is he will be our next HC. Some of you have mentioned that DS is waiting for the dust to settle from the Williams debacle, I think you guys are correct. If Fassel becomes HC (which I don't want) I will give him 2 years to take us to the SB, if he doesn't then I say NEXT. Snyder doesn't want to bring in an unproven coach with the talent on this team especially being a few players away from the SB. Think about it? Whether you like it or not Fossil will be the next HC. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-26-2008, 04:24 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? My brain is about to explode. I can't even think straight. This thing has gotten so nuts, I really don't know who I'd prefer. While I'm concerned about the toll this has taken on the team, we're sure to have a VERY exciting season next year, for better or for worse. I'm torn on Schwartz or Spagnuolo. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-26-2008, 04:26 PM	#7
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-26-2008, 04:25 PM	#10
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Barry Switzer. Second choice Ronald McDonald.

01-26-2008, 04:29 PM	#11
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? I'm going Cowher. What the hell? Who knows what's going to happen. I could see Fassel, Cowher, Schwartz all working out well or horrible. I have no idea what's going to happen and how it's going to go. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

01-26-2008, 04:30 PM	#12
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Well - I know who I don't want: Cowher or Fassel. As for the other three, God knows - who's the best bet? It's an F'ing crapshoot. Whichever one has (in no particular order): a)the balls to stand up to LDS, b) the ability to work with the existing coaching staff and c) the skill to mold a group of professional atheletes into a team. My initial reaction is Schwartz, but it could just as easily be Meeks or Spag. My problem with all of them is that they all have a bit of the "flavor of the month" about them. Hopefully, we're getting the next Tomlin and not the next Cameron. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-26-2008, 04:42 PM	#13
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Jim Schwartz. Get it done on Monday. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

01-26-2008, 05:08 PM	#14
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? i WANT A NEW OWNER

01-26-2008, 05:31 PM	#15
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Think about it. Who ever comes in now has to be on page with GW's style of defense if you hire a defensive minded HC. You have just named one of his Asst. DC so you need to know a little about it. Or....if you are going to hire an offensive minded HC he has to be knowledgable in the WC style. I think that leaves the Giants coordinator out because he does not run the same defense. It might leave Rex Ryan out because he uses a different style but he may be able to imcorporate his style with our new DC. So now look at who you have, the Titans coordinator which will get along with our system, I'm not so sure about the Colts coordinator and the system he uses. It could be the NE coordinator but I see the Jets fumbling and the Browns are finally starting to get things going after several yrs. Who's left Cowher and Fassell. Cowher is adamant he will not return until next yr. Although his daughter will be in the area and this would be a great gig for him. Not to mention you have to be in the state a yr before you get in state tuition not that money is an issue. If I were Cowher I would ask for the stars and all the money I could get out of DS and take the job early and mention my daughter as why I decided to take the job. The wonderful father wants to be close. I doubt he is coming though. That leaves Fassell, the man who is looking to get back into coaching and wanting to revive his career. Perhaps even asking for the job on the cheap. If we do well then Fassell looks like a genius and so does DS. If Fassell stinks it up then it simply proves he's not coaching material. I'll gaurantee you one thing though. You don't go interviewing people for coordinator jobs without the HC ok on who he wants for his staff. Coordinators do not take jobs not knowing who they would be working for. Everyone has mentiond Dallas but I'm sure Jerry had already had a phone conversation with Phillips and had an agreement prior to the OC getting hired and I'm sure the OC was informed of who the coach would be. I'm betting there is already a HC waiting for the announcement to be made. My gut is it's Fassell who has been directing DS as to who he wouldn't mind having. I could be wrong. This could be a hole assbackwards hiring process. I'm not sure how much Fassell knows about either coordinators style but if you are looking for a job and will take anything you take it and let the coordinators run the show.

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