So Now Who Do You Want?

onlydarksets · 01-26-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can we stop talking about Bill Cowher for crying out loud. He's not coming here. Jeez!!! I'll take Meeks.

I was a bit surprised to see him in the poll. But, since we're all in lala land anyway, I went with the best candidate out there, regardless of whether he should or could become the coach.

T.O.Killa · 01-26-2008, 06:08 PM

i WANT A NEW OWNER

SmootSmack · 01-26-2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

I was a bit surprised to see him in the poll. But, since we're all in lala land anyway, I went with the best candidate out there, regardless of whether he should or could become the coach.

I decided to put him in there, just because the rumors won't die about him. I was hesitant to put him in there but ultimately went for it.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-26-2008, 06:13 PM

Who do I want? None of the above.

Who will it be? The Skins will likely want to interview someone from one or both of the teams playing on Sunday. Based on who they interview, I could be convinced that set of interviews could identify a good hire. However, not every assistant on the Giants/Pats is a good candidate to be a HC somewhere else.

With regard to the theories proposed that all of this is a temporizing move just waiting until 2009 when Bill Cowher comes in and takes over, the perfect guy to be the one-year caretaker would be Joe Bugel. He has sucked in spades as a head coach, but if all you want is a seat-warmer, Joe's your guy - - and he already knows most of the players... No way he's expecting a long-term deal as a head coach in the NFL ever again.

SBXVII · 01-26-2008, 06:31 PM

Think about it. Who ever comes in now has to be on page with GW's style of defense if you hire a defensive minded HC. You have just named one of his Asst. DC so you need to know a little about it. Or....if you are going to hire an offensive minded HC he has to be knowledgable in the WC style. I think that leaves the Giants coordinator out because he does not run the same defense. It might leave Rex Ryan out because he uses a different style but he may be able to imcorporate his style with our new DC. So now look at who you have, the Titans coordinator which will get along with our system, I'm not so sure about the Colts coordinator and the system he uses. It could be the NE coordinator but I see the Jets fumbling and the Browns are finally starting to get things going after several yrs.

Who's left Cowher and Fassell. Cowher is adamant he will not return until next yr. Although his daughter will be in the area and this would be a great gig for him. Not to mention you have to be in the state a yr before you get in state tuition not that money is an issue. If I were Cowher I would ask for the stars and all the money I could get out of DS and take the job early and mention my daughter as why I decided to take the job. The wonderful father wants to be close. I doubt he is coming though.

That leaves Fassell, the man who is looking to get back into coaching and wanting to revive his career. Perhaps even asking for the job on the cheap. If we do well then Fassell looks like a genius and so does DS. If Fassell stinks it up then it simply proves he's not coaching material.

I'll gaurantee you one thing though. You don't go interviewing people for coordinator jobs without the HC ok on who he wants for his staff. Coordinators do not take jobs not knowing who they would be working for. Everyone has mentiond Dallas but I'm sure Jerry had already had a phone conversation with Phillips and had an agreement prior to the OC getting hired and I'm sure the OC was informed of who the coach would be. I'm betting there is already a HC waiting for the announcement to be made. My gut is it's Fassell who has been directing DS as to who he wouldn't mind having. I could be wrong. This could be a hole assbackwards hiring process. I'm not sure how much Fassell knows about either coordinators style but if you are looking for a job and will take anything you take it and let the coordinators run the show.

Longtimefan · 01-26-2008, 06:31 PM

Ron Meeks......Young and intelligent with potential to grow. His future is ahead of him not in the past.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 01-26-2008, 07:04 PM

Cowher, no way, IMO not a great head coach. I don't want a guy who has been out of the NFL two years. His best days are in the rear view mirror.

Fassel, no. He had a decent run in NY up to the SB year but after that..not so much. His best days are behind him also.

Schwartz, 2007 D was solid, but in 2004-06 his defense has been in the bottom four teams in the NFL in scoring D.

Spags, not enough on his resume. One decent year as a DC does not a HC make.

Meeks is the best on the list, impressive resume, consistent success. Tony Dungy isn't a bad mentor to have either.

I've said this in at least 5 or 6 other posts, we should take a look at Ron Rivera from San Diego for HC or DC under Meeks (if they can work together). Blanche is very solid, but not a young man. Meeks, Rivera and Zorn would be a pretty solid top of the coaching staff for as long as Snyder can afford to pay them....and we all know that's not an issue.

SFREDSKIN · 01-26-2008, 07:06 PM

What happens if Rex Ryan is hired as the HC? I like him, but worry about his weight, he has to take better care of himself or the stress of coaching could kill him at a young age.

SmootSmack · 01-26-2008, 07:06 PM

Nice post Slingin. I can definitely see the case for Meeks, including his ties to the Redskins.

Rock31 · 01-26-2008, 07:12 PM

Hands-down Cowher. Fassel is a close second. You have to grab experience whenever the opportunity presents itself. What would be so rotten about lending the keys to the mansion to Cowher for as long as he wants it? We've already had what amounts to a regime change among the coordinators, of course to a greater extent on the offensive front. These do not seem like Cowher's peeps however (Zorn and Blache), and I agree with one of the contributors on this topic who said it may have been Fassel throwing out strong hints as to who he'd be comfortable with that led to the hire/fire/promotion. You've already lost half of the "Gibbs DNA" as it is with GW's firing. I'm more interested in what we do with the personnel. Cut ties with the aging, injury-prone veterans on defense (Griffin, Springs) and draft that stud DE to make us a more fierce blitzing unit. The West Coast Offense will suit many of our current offensive staff, methinks. Randle El may outproduce Santana in receptions and yards next season. Cooley will remain a fantastic endzone threat. We'll see a new and invigorated Clinton Portis catching short dunks and dinks and spreading defenses out on tosses and sweeps. I am optimistic about our prospects.

Yellow31 · 01-26-2008, 07:22 PM

is it monday yet.....this is getting more irritating by the day

SBXVII · 01-26-2008, 07:26 PM

I tried but am to tired an lazy to figure out what system each coach uses and if they would be a match with any of the new coordinators. All I've done so far is find Cowher: he started out as a special teams coach then a DC under Schotty. I don't think it's the same defense that Blache uses though.

Fassell: was an OC. not sure if he was WC oriented though.

Spagnoulo: he coached the D in Philly and prior to that worked under Bobby Beathered in San Diego. not sure if he runs the same defense.

Meeks: has been all around the league including Washington back in 2000. not sure if that was when Lewis was around but if so then he might run a similar D as to what we already have.

Then I got tired of looking. lol. The other idea is that the coach is only going to be a figure head. Someone to lead the team. Let the coordinators run the show. Then Fassell probubly would not be bad. I can't see Cowher taking this job with these coordinators just like someone else said....does not seem to be his type of people. Although maybe he wants to try something new....a different type of offense. unless I'm wrong and he had the WC in place in Pitt. If the idea was to get younger at the coaches spots also then as you all have mentioned why Blache unless they were having a hard time getting a defensive coordinator and then your best bet is to keep status quo....we were in the top 10.

budw38 · 01-26-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Cowher, no way, IMO not a great head coach. I don't want a guy who has been out of the NFL two years. His best days are in the rear view mirror.

Fassel, no. He had a decent run in NY up to the SB year but after that..not so much. His best days are behind him also.

Schwartz, 2007 D was solid, but in 2004-06 his defense has been in the bottom four teams in the NFL in scoring D.

Spags, not enough on his resume. One decent year as a DC does not a HC make.

Meeks is the best on the list, impressive resume, consistent success. Tony Dungy isn't a bad mentor to have either.

I've said this in at least 5 or 6 other posts, we should take a look at Ron Rivera from San Diego for HC or DC under Meeks (if they can work together). Blanche is very solid, but not a young man. Meeks, Rivera and Zorn would be a pretty solid top of the coaching staff for as long as Snyder can afford to pay them....and we all know that's not an issue.

I think we can forget Cowher . No way Cowher coaches a team built by Vinny . Dan better hope the new guy wins right out of the gate .If Fassell is the guy ,,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .

jdlea · 01-26-2008, 07:28 PM

I would love to have Mike Singletary come in here and take over the job. I've said before that I'm also high on both Caldwell and Meeks. I know Caldwell is done now, so I suppose, if I had to choose from the list...it's Meeks.

Also, supposedly McDaniel is on the list for possible head coaches. I thought he had said that he would stay with NE next season. If that turns out to be false, I wouldn't mind him.

JCK and RFK · 01-26-2008, 07:28 PM

who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?

View Poll Results: Who Do You Want As the Next Head Coach?
Cowher	49	33.11%
Fassel	12	8.11%
Meeks	20	13.51%
Schwartz	36	24.32%
Spagnuolo	23	15.54%
Mariucci	8	5.41%
Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

01-26-2008, 06:08 PM	#17
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? i WANT A NEW OWNER

01-26-2008, 06:13 PM	#19
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Who do I want? None of the above. Who will it be? The Skins will likely want to interview someone from one or both of the teams playing on Sunday. Based on who they interview, I could be convinced that set of interviews could identify a good hire. However, not every assistant on the Giants/Pats is a good candidate to be a HC somewhere else. With regard to the theories proposed that all of this is a temporizing move just waiting until 2009 when Bill Cowher comes in and takes over, the perfect guy to be the one-year caretaker would be Joe Bugel. He has sucked in spades as a head coach, but if all you want is a seat-warmer, Joe's your guy - - and he already knows most of the players... No way he's expecting a long-term deal as a head coach in the NFL ever again. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-26-2008, 06:31 PM	#20
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Think about it. Who ever comes in now has to be on page with GW's style of defense if you hire a defensive minded HC. You have just named one of his Asst. DC so you need to know a little about it. Or....if you are going to hire an offensive minded HC he has to be knowledgable in the WC style. I think that leaves the Giants coordinator out because he does not run the same defense. It might leave Rex Ryan out because he uses a different style but he may be able to imcorporate his style with our new DC. So now look at who you have, the Titans coordinator which will get along with our system, I'm not so sure about the Colts coordinator and the system he uses. It could be the NE coordinator but I see the Jets fumbling and the Browns are finally starting to get things going after several yrs. Who's left Cowher and Fassell. Cowher is adamant he will not return until next yr. Although his daughter will be in the area and this would be a great gig for him. Not to mention you have to be in the state a yr before you get in state tuition not that money is an issue. If I were Cowher I would ask for the stars and all the money I could get out of DS and take the job early and mention my daughter as why I decided to take the job. The wonderful father wants to be close. I doubt he is coming though. That leaves Fassell, the man who is looking to get back into coaching and wanting to revive his career. Perhaps even asking for the job on the cheap. If we do well then Fassell looks like a genius and so does DS. If Fassell stinks it up then it simply proves he's not coaching material. I'll gaurantee you one thing though. You don't go interviewing people for coordinator jobs without the HC ok on who he wants for his staff. Coordinators do not take jobs not knowing who they would be working for. Everyone has mentiond Dallas but I'm sure Jerry had already had a phone conversation with Phillips and had an agreement prior to the OC getting hired and I'm sure the OC was informed of who the coach would be. I'm betting there is already a HC waiting for the announcement to be made. My gut is it's Fassell who has been directing DS as to who he wouldn't mind having. I could be wrong. This could be a hole assbackwards hiring process. I'm not sure how much Fassell knows about either coordinators style but if you are looking for a job and will take anything you take it and let the coordinators run the show.

01-26-2008, 06:31 PM	#21
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Ron Meeks......Young and intelligent with potential to grow. His future is ahead of him not in the past. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

01-26-2008, 07:04 PM	#22
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Cowher, no way, IMO not a great head coach. I don't want a guy who has been out of the NFL two years. His best days are in the rear view mirror. Fassel, no. He had a decent run in NY up to the SB year but after that..not so much. His best days are behind him also. Schwartz, 2007 D was solid, but in 2004-06 his defense has been in the bottom four teams in the NFL in scoring D. Spags, not enough on his resume. One decent year as a DC does not a HC make. Meeks is the best on the list, impressive resume, consistent success. Tony Dungy isn't a bad mentor to have either. I've said this in at least 5 or 6 other posts, we should take a look at Ron Rivera from San Diego for HC or DC under Meeks (if they can work together). Blanche is very solid, but not a young man. Meeks, Rivera and Zorn would be a pretty solid top of the coaching staff for as long as Snyder can afford to pay them....and we all know that's not an issue. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

01-26-2008, 07:06 PM	#23
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? What happens if Rex Ryan is hired as the HC? I like him, but worry about his weight, he has to take better care of himself or the stress of coaching could kill him at a young age. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-26-2008, 07:06 PM	#24
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Nice post Slingin. I can definitely see the case for Meeks, including his ties to the Redskins. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-26-2008, 07:12 PM	#25
Rock31 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Asheville, NC Age: 38 Posts: 48	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? Hands-down Cowher. Fassel is a close second. You have to grab experience whenever the opportunity presents itself. What would be so rotten about lending the keys to the mansion to Cowher for as long as he wants it? We've already had what amounts to a regime change among the coordinators, of course to a greater extent on the offensive front. These do not seem like Cowher's peeps however (Zorn and Blache), and I agree with one of the contributors on this topic who said it may have been Fassel throwing out strong hints as to who he'd be comfortable with that led to the hire/fire/promotion. You've already lost half of the "Gibbs DNA" as it is with GW's firing. I'm more interested in what we do with the personnel. Cut ties with the aging, injury-prone veterans on defense (Griffin, Springs) and draft that stud DE to make us a more fierce blitzing unit. The West Coast Offense will suit many of our current offensive staff, methinks. Randle El may outproduce Santana in receptions and yards next season. Cooley will remain a fantastic endzone threat. We'll see a new and invigorated Clinton Portis catching short dunks and dinks and spreading defenses out on tosses and sweeps. I am optimistic about our prospects.

01-26-2008, 07:22 PM	#26
Yellow31 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 125	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? is it monday yet.....this is getting more irritating by the day

01-26-2008, 07:26 PM	#27
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? I tried but am to tired an lazy to figure out what system each coach uses and if they would be a match with any of the new coordinators. All I've done so far is find Cowher: he started out as a special teams coach then a DC under Schotty. I don't think it's the same defense that Blache uses though. Fassell: was an OC. not sure if he was WC oriented though. Spagnoulo: he coached the D in Philly and prior to that worked under Bobby Beathered in San Diego. not sure if he runs the same defense. Meeks: has been all around the league including Washington back in 2000. not sure if that was when Lewis was around but if so then he might run a similar D as to what we already have. Then I got tired of looking. lol. The other idea is that the coach is only going to be a figure head. Someone to lead the team. Let the coordinators run the show. Then Fassell probubly would not be bad. I can't see Cowher taking this job with these coordinators just like someone else said....does not seem to be his type of people. Although maybe he wants to try something new....a different type of offense. unless I'm wrong and he had the WC in place in Pitt. If the idea was to get younger at the coaches spots also then as you all have mentioned why Blache unless they were having a hard time getting a defensive coordinator and then your best bet is to keep status quo....we were in the top 10.

01-26-2008, 07:28 PM	#29
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? I would love to have Mike Singletary come in here and take over the job. I've said before that I'm also high on both Caldwell and Meeks. I know Caldwell is done now, so I suppose, if I had to choose from the list...it's Meeks. Also, supposedly McDaniel is on the list for possible head coaches. I thought he had said that he would stay with NE next season. If that turns out to be false, I wouldn't mind him.

01-26-2008, 07:28 PM	#30
JCK and RFK Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: winchester, va Posts: 5	Re: So Now Who Do You Want? who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?

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