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Old 02-01-2008, 03:03 PM   #16
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

Tremendous talent does no good if it is in:
A) jail
B) suspended by the NFL
C) in a strip club; either "makin it rain" or punching dancers.

Stay away, far away from Pacman.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:16 PM   #17
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

What if we kept him locked in a cage and only let him out for practice and games.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:42 PM   #18
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:45 PM   #19
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

If some of you think Chad Johnson is a problem Pacman the devil himself
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:07 PM   #20
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

I'd rather play with John Jansen and Casey Rabach at corner. And I am not even remotely kidding. I'd sooner see Brandon Lloyd line up behind the center and run the freaking wing t option with Heath Shuler as the Tail back.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:23 PM   #21
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

Any news from PFT can wait.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:31 PM   #22
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So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.
Didn't Pacman take a swing at a teammate for not "backing him up" when he was suspended?
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:33 PM   #23
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Please god no...I honestly can't think of a player in the world I want less!
You haven't seen me run the 40.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:45 PM   #24
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I don't think so.
I hate Jones but he is a top 5 cover cornerback and an elite punt returner.
Guys with that kind of talent will always get breaks.

I personally hope he is done with football, but He isn't because he can play at a high level.
That talent didn't help the Titans this last year and I don't think he'll behave any better if he plays with the Redskins. He's just a waste of talent....
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:47 PM   #25
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

Everybody does deserve a second chance, but I'd much rather see Pacman get his opportunity [If he get's one] somewhere else. I would not like to see him in Burgandy & Gold.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:50 PM   #26
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DUMB question to even ask.
I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:55 PM   #27
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I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:00 PM   #28
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no thanks..the video game pacman has been more impressive than pacman himself.
we don,t need a problem child here..
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:00 PM   #29
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Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.
But there's a big difference in the football skill of Pac Man Jones, and Jerramy Stevens. Even if Stevens was a choir boy, you can't really defend that he still deserves to be playing in the NFL. The fact that he's a terrible person just makes it downright insane that he has any support inside this league.

Pac Man may be a terrible person, but he's good at football. Jerramy Stevens is not.

Of course, a good counter argument would be that missing a year of football is a guarantee to severely retard ones development as a football player.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:01 PM   #30
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I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
His talent level is completely wiped out by his retarded actions off the field IMO.

I really hope the NFL doesn't reinstate him. He's a complete loser.
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