Hey, the sun did rise this morning!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Do you really believe JC has great pocket presence. I think thats one of his biggest problems. Its like he is never aware that a sack is coming or that he needs to move out of the pocket to buy time and just stands there until he gets hit. Thats one of the reasons he fumbles so many times while just standing in the pocket.

Name me one QB that could've got out of the way of Carolina'a pass rush Sat. night? That had nothing to do with pocket presence. The first round draft bust named Lewis, who was released by STL simply abused Kendall. We made that bum look like Reggie White. I'm not worried about JC quite yet.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Name me one QB that could've got out of the way of Carolina'a pass rush Sat. night? That had nothing to do with pocket presence. The first round draft bust named Lewis, who was released by STL simply abused Kendall. We made that bum look like Reggie White. I'm not worried about JC quite yet.

The game when JC does make you worry.... I hope I miss. I cannot imagine it being much worse than Saturday.

[CRedskinsRule]

a blowout is a blowout. they happen. the giants lost to the jets who we beat. it is all preseason, and the games don't count.
ok enough cliches. JC had a terrible game regardless of the line play, on one sack i counted to 10 before he got sacked. and his postgame remarks with Kelli J were deflecting criticism far too much. this game, and his theismann and postgame interviews, really diminished my view of Campbell. i still believe the team will have a great year, but if not then it ought to be JC's last.

[Defensewins]

Even for preseason, 47-3 is an embarrasment. Even if the score is lopsided at least the team should show some good technique and skill. They did not.
I said it on the first we got Jason Taylor, our two DE are pass rushers. Stopping the run is not their strength. PLus we are not deep with the few run stoppers we do have. IF we can not stop the run, it will be very long Spurrier type season. I have been really concerned about our ability to stop the run since Phillip Daniels went down. We do not have a true LDE - Strong side DE. WE have two RDE pash rush guys. This may really come back to bite us.

[Boston Brave]

Also, I kept wanting to see some player leadership (on the field and sidelines) and I wanted to see some coaches in some players faces (not looking at overhead photos). Which coach is our fire breather?

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by Boston Brave

Also, I kept wanting to see some player leadership (on the field and sidelines) and I wanted to see some coaches in some players faces (not looking at overhead photos). Which coach is our fire breather?

That was something I noted last night too. There was a lot of head hanging on the sideline, and not enough motivation. I saw guys individually walk over to Campbell a few times and talk and then walk away. I really hope they're not getting frustrated with him.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

That was something I noted last night too. There was a lot of head hanging on the sideline, and not enough motivation. I saw guys individually walk over to Campbell a few times and talk and then walk away. I really hope they're not getting frustrated with him.

Well, they didn't show it on TV but supposedly Jim Zorn's head nearly exploded after that third sack on Campbell and he gave Bugel and earful...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

Well, they didn't show it on TV but supposedly Jim Zorn's head nearly exploded after that third sack on Campbell and he gave Bugel and earful...

Well, that'd be a shame considering all that Bugel has done for this team and what he's gone through this past week. Maybe he was just yelling in Bugel's direction, and not at Bugel.

Without Bugel really into it the last couple of weeks, you can clearly see that the offensive line seems totally lost. Which to an extent is understandable because Bugel is like a father figure to them. To another extent it's inexcusable when you consider that the two senior members of the team are the anchors of our offensive line-Samuels and Jansen-and they should have taken it upon themselves to take charge of that line on and off the field.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, that'd be a shame considering all that Bugel has done for this team and what he's gone through this past week. Maybe he was just yelling in Bugel's direction, and not at Bugel.

Without Bugel really into it the last couple of weeks, you can clearly see that the offensive line seems totally lost. Which to an extent is understandable because Bugel is like a father figure to them. To another extent it's inexcusable when you consider that the two senior members of the team are the anchors of our offensive line-Samuels and Jansen-and they should have taken it upon themselves to take charge of that line on and off the field.

I'm starting to think that Jansen simply can't play anymore. I think he's done.

[redskinjim]

i am not blaming it ALL on cambell but it makes me ill to watch him play. collins is much better. The coach says jason is the future??WHAT FUTURE WOULD THAT BE.the only times he doesnt go three and out is when he gets picked. then its 2 and out.HE NEEDS TO THROW THE DAMN BALL!!

[WaldSkins]

JC is just scared to make a bad throw, he needs to let it ride.

[MTK]

The forum was just gearing up for the regular season last night. It's been a while since we went through a loss so I think we forgot about what happens around here. For starters, the usual cast of armchair coaches that have very little or nothing to say after a W come out of the woodwork with plenty to say.

Some of the typical reactions include:

-Fire the coach.

-Somebody needs to be cut or traded.

-The coach needs to start yelling more.

-Bench the QB.

-The players should be running an insane amount of laps after practice.

-Why aren't we going a certain free agent that's available?

-Why didn't we draft a certain player?

-Why did we draft a certain player?

-The season is over.

-We're the laughingstock of the entire league.

-Ex-players and coaches are laughing at us.

-Snyder needs to sell the team.

-If you're not criticizing the team you don't know what's going on.

-We're not making the playoffs.

-We're going to have the 1st pick in the draft.

Did I miss anything? Feel free to add your own.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The forum was just gearing up for the regular season last night. It's been a while since we went through a loss so I think we forgot about what happens around here. For starters, the usual cast of armchair coaches that have very little or nothing to say after a W come out of the woodwork with plenty to say.

Some of the typical reactions include:

-Fire the coach.

-Somebody needs to be cut or traded.

-The coach needs to start yelling more.

-Bench the QB.

-The players should be running an insane amount of laps after practice.

-Why aren't we going a certain free agent that's available?

-Why didn't we draft a certain player?

-Why did we draft a certain player?

-The season is over.

-We're the laughingstock of the entire league.

-Ex-players and coaches are laughing at us.

-Snyder needs to sell the team.

-If you're not criticizing the team you don't know what's going on.

-We're not making the playoffs.

-We're going to have the 1st pick in the draft.

Did I miss anything? Feel free to add your own.

Well there was this one from this thread..

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The offense has MILES to go, we're showing signs of being the worst offense in the league.

Also:
-This won't happen under Bill Cowher next year

-Cerrato needs to be fired and we need a real GM

-If Patrick Ramsey was only given a fair chance we wouldn't be wondering if Campbell can be our QB

-Collins won 4 games in '07 and should be the starter

-Why don't we bring back Lavar Arrington


I didn't see the game, I'll watch the replay on NFL-N at 1pm but I doubt that, as seems to be the prevailing notion on here, that we are destined to be the '07 Dolphins all of a sudden. We got our asses kicked. You know what, it happens. We've gotten our asses kicked before and will again. Just as 3 preseason wins doesn't win us a Lombardi Trophy, a bad preseason loss doesn't lock up the #1 pick. The recall to 2006 is much different, we looked horrible from the first snap of the preseason, not just one game. Other than last night, we've looked pretty decent in all phases the entire summer, the wheels didn't permanently come off the wagon last night.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Well there was this one from this thread..

Also:
-This won't happen under Bill Cowher next year

-Cerrato needs to be fired and we need a real GM

-If Patrick Ramsey was only given a fair chance we wouldn't be wondering if Campbell can be our QB

-Collins won 4 games in '07 and should be the starter

-Why don't we bring back Lavar Arrington


I didn't see the game, I'll watch the replay on NFL-N at 1pm but I doubt that, as seems to be the prevailing notion on here, that we are destined to be the '07 Dolphins all of a sudden. We got our asses kicked. You know what, it happens. We've gotten our asses kicked before and will again. Just as 3 preseason wins doesn't win us a Lombardi Trophy, a bad preseason loss doesn't lock up the #1 pick. The recall to 2006 is much different, we looked horrible from the first snap of the preseason, not just one game. Other than last night, we've looked pretty decent in all phases the entire summer, the wheels didn't permanently come off the wagon last night.

LOL how could I forget the "we need a GM" stuff.

[WaldSkins]

I was one of the people that wanted us to draft lineman with all our picks, just saying.