Looking ahead to the Saints

[70Chip]

Welcome NOLAFan33... Check out User CP to get your Saints avatar.

[nolafan33]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Welcome NOLAFan33... Check out User CP to get your Saints avatar.

already got it lol

that's very cool of yall to have all those avatars of the different teams. i'm a member of many sites and don't see that kind of thing often.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by nolafan33

already got it lol

that's very cool of yall to have all those avatars of the different teams. i'm a member of many sites and don't see that kind of thing often.

Welcome to the board

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by nolafan33

i am really looking forward too matching up with yall.

as for the saints defense don't expect too see the same old sucky no emotion defense. the additions of vilma, mccray, ellis, and others have been huge and all bring some nastiest to our defense.

as for the saints secondary they looked fantastic yesterday, paired with the fact that we were in garcias face all day yesterday, our corners were glued to there recievers all day. forcing some pass deflections and such. and the thing that gets me excited is that our 2 starting corners didn't even play. garcia threw for 221 yards on 24 completions. he threw the ball 41 times.

i'm not worried about yall running the ball play after play. it's the fact that the saints seem to give up long runs, not too often but it happens. it seems like we hold the rb too like 2 or 3 yards a carry and then he breaks a 30 yarder. so with yall having a very good backfield in betts and portis that's what im the most worried about.

expect too see the same old saints offense, but now with a 5 or 6 ypc runner in pierre thomas. the saints will get there 250-300 yards passing as they do so often. but now we have that rushing weapon in thomas. and of course there is reggie bush who will get his carries and receptions. he has breakaway potential everytime he touches the football. oh and don't forget about that brand new addition in jeremy shockey who showed up big for the saints on 3rd downs.

I saw the whole NO/TB game and came away with a different impression. The Saints offense looked hot. But it actually did not do a whole lot if you take out the big plays. That is, the Skins need to make the Saints offense earn its yards, rather than getting big plays, and everything will be ok.

I was unimpressed by the NO defense. They did get some good pressure on Garcia. But Tampa was still able to move the ball well. This was due in part because Tampa averaged over 7 yards per rush. Hello Clinton Portis!

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I saw the whole NO/TB game and came away with a different impression. The Saints offense looked hot. But it actually did not do a whole lot if you take out the big plays. That is, the Skins need to make the Saints offense earn its yards, rather than getting big plays, and everything will be ok.

I was unimpressed by the NO defense. They did get some good pressure on Garcia. But Tampa was still able to move the ball well. This was due in part because Tampa averaged over 7 yards per rush. Hello Clinton Portis!

good post lotus and welcome aboard aswell buddy!!

go skins!

[hucapn]

Let's be crystal clear right now. IF THE REDSKINS CONTINUE TO PLAY AS THEY HAVE THE LAST MONTH, WE WILL NOT WIN A GAME.
Now, as for the Saints, we will see Marques Colston playing a very similar role to Burress. Carlos Rogers will once again have to prove to me that he is more than a combine all-star and physical specimen. Speed and ability does nothing at the NFL level if you can't see what's going on before the snap.
Drew Brees is dangerous and if he has time we are in trouble because they have TONS of speed and talent catching the ball. Shockey will kill us just like he did in NY. Henderson and Meachem are dangerous too and I have said from the jump that Reed "What did you say" Doughty is a liability around anyone with talent on offense. Springs is nicked up and so is smoot.
THAT'S JUST DEFENSE. Not even speaking of Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas. (don't be shocked if Thomas has a great game either)
On offense, we stink. We need to play up to the Saints as if they are better than us because they are right now. They have two NASTY defensive ends who will get pressure on Campbell who apparently doesn't need pressure to throw bad passes anyway. Our only real hope is to spread the field, run Portis on some counters, delays and screens hoping that that will open up play passes or pump and gos.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by hucapn

Let's be crystal clear right now. IF THE REDSKINS CONTINUE TO PLAY AS THEY HAVE THE LAST MONTH, WE WILL NOT WIN A GAME.
Now, as for the Saints, we will see Marques Colston playing a very similar role to Burress. Carlos Rogers will once again have to prove to me that he is more than a combine all-star and physical specimen. Speed and ability does nothing at the NFL level if you can't see what's going on before the snap.
Drew Brees is dangerous and if he has time we are in trouble because they have TONS of speed and talent catching the ball. Shockey will kill us just like he did in NY. Henderson and Meachem are dangerous too and I have said from the jump that Reed "What did you say" Doughty is a liability around anyone with talent on offense. Springs is nicked up and so is smoot.
THAT'S JUST DEFENSE. Not even speaking of Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas. (don't be shocked if Thomas has a great game either)
On offense, we stink. We need to play up to the Saints as if they are better than us because they are right now. They have two NASTY defensive ends who will get pressure on Campbell who apparently doesn't need pressure to throw bad passes anyway. Our only real hope is to spread the field, run Portis on some counters, delays and screens hoping that that will open up play passes or pump and gos.

Well f**K it. Why should we even show up?

[nolafan33]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I saw the whole NO/TB game and came away with a different impression. The Saints offense looked hot. But it actually did not do a whole lot if you take out the big plays. That is, the Skins need to make the Saints offense earn its yards, rather than getting big plays, and everything will be ok.

I was unimpressed by the NO defense. They did get some good pressure on Garcia. But Tampa was still able to move the ball well. This was due in part because Tampa averaged over 7 yards per rush. Hello Clinton Portis!

sorry but you must not tune in for a lot of saints games. the saints offense is built around alot of short quick passes and 3-5 yard runs. the saints have alot of drives where they keep hitting, and hitting, and hitting, then they hit you with the knockout punch on a 30+ yard touchdown.

the saints offense struggled at times in the first half, but they made adjustments and got shockey involved in the second half. they looked like the saints offense that i'm used too seeing. i'd expect too see alot more of the saints moving the ball this weekend. no disrepect too your team, but yall don't have the d tampa has.

the saints d got alot of good pressure on garcia all day. they only brought him down twice but they were in his face all day and forced him too use his legs too make plays. garcia completed around 58% of his passes. and he threw the ball 41 times, so the saints d were able to force him too throw the ball. the saints corners were glued onto the bucs recievers alot throughout the day and the bucs recievers made a couple plays. but the most important thing, and the thing im most proud of is that the saints defense were able to make plays when needed. the bucs o was 0-9 on 3rd down conversion going into the 4th quarter. they finished 2-12. and as for the running game the numbers were not reflected on the way the saints stopped the run. they played good but gave up two plays, one being a 46 yarder. as i said earlier in this thread, that's what scares me. they will hold the opposing rusher too a 3 yard average the entire game but will then give up a huge 30+ yard carry.

the saints bit themselves alot in this game. 6 penaltys in the first half. a olinemen missed his block on that interception play and if that would not have happended that play could have been a potential touchdown because there was nothing but green in front of moore. i would put my money on the saints getting something from that drive. nobody knows what would have actually happened, but that would have made it a 31-13 saints win, if my maths right lol.

and one of the things i'm most excited about is that deuce or aaron stecker never saw the field, our two top recievers only caught 4 passes, shockey didn't really get involved until the 3rd or 4th quarter. and the saints leader in the secondary, mike mckenzie, didn't dress. nor did the other starting corner usama young.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by nolafan33

sorry but you must not tune in for a lot of saints games. the saints offense is built around alot of short quick passes and 3-5 yard runs. the saints have alot of drives where they keep hitting, and hitting, and hitting, then they hit you with the knockout punch on a 30+ yard touchdown.

the saints offense struggled at times in the first half, but they made adjustments and got shockey involved in the second half. they looked like the saints offense that i'm used too seeing. i'd expect too see alot more of the saints moving the ball this weekend. no disrepect too your team, but yall don't have the d tampa has.

the saints d got alot of good pressure on garcia all day. they only brought him down twice but they were in his face all day and forced him too use his legs too make plays. garcia completed around 58% of his passes. and he threw the ball 41 times, so the saints d were able to force him too throw the ball. the saints corners were glued onto the bucs recievers alot throughout the day and the bucs recievers made a couple plays. but the most important thing, and the thing im most proud of is that the saints defense were able to make plays when needed. the bucs o was 0-9 on 3rd down conversion going into the 4th quarter. they finished 2-12. and as for the running game the numbers were not reflected on the way the saints stopped the run. they played good but gave up two plays, one being a 46 yarder. as i said earlier in this thread, that's what scares me. they will hold the opposing rusher too a 3 yard average the entire game but will then give up a huge 30+ yard carry.

the saints bit themselves alot in this game. 6 penaltys in the first half. a olinemen missed his block on that interception play and if that would not have happended that play could have been a potential touchdown because there was nothing but green in front of moore. i would put my money on the saints getting something from that drive. nobody knows what would have actually happened, but that would have made it a 31-13 saints win, if my maths right lol.

and one of the things i'm most excited about is that deuce or aaron stecker never saw the field, our two top recievers only caught 4 passes, shockey didn't really get involved until the 3rd or 4th quarter. and the saints leader in the secondary, mike mckenzie, didn't dress. nor did the other starting corner usama young.

I am a Skins fan who lives near New Orleans so I actually see too many, for my taste, Saints games.

I'll stick by what I said and take your comments as support for my position. Take away the 30+ yard plays which you touted and the Saints have a harder time scoring. You just have to make them earn their yards.

I would put the Skins D up against the Tampa D any day.

If you stop a teams' running game some, and then give up a big run, that is NOT stopping the run. Allowing the other team 7 yards per carry is not stopping the run and no excuses change this fact. So my point remains - Tampa was able to run the ball well on the Saints and I think Washington can do it, too.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I watched the entire Saints-Bucs game and they looked pretty damned impressive. Their d-line (Charles Grant, Sedrick Ellis, Brian Young and Will Smith) was absolutely dominating Jeff Garcia and the Bucs offense, which also runs the WCO. Jeff Garcia had no time to throw the ball and was getting hurried on just about every throw. If our O-line can't stop the Saints' pass rush, Jason Campbell is in for a long day.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I watched the entire Saints-Bucs game and they looked pretty damned impressive. Their d-line (Charles Grant, Sedrick Ellis, Brian Young and Will Smith) was absolutely dominating Jeff Garcia and the Bucs offense, which also runs the WCO. Jeff Garcia had no time to throw the ball and was getting hurried on just about every throw. If our O-line can't stop the Saints' pass rush, Jason Campbell is in for a long day.

That is scary when you consider that Garcia is a season WCO guy who has been in that system his entire career and JC is just starting it.

[Skinny Tee]

We beat the Saints when they were the business 2 years ago. Hopefully we still have the playbook for that game lying around.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

All I know is we need Springs back for this one and he better be ready. The Saints are going to try to air it out all day, and like the Giants the Saints have their own big physical WR who can muscle around cornerbacks in Colston. And let's not forget about Shockey working the middle and Bush coming out of the backfield.

A big key to this game for us along with Springs is Jason Taylor. He should be much closer to 100% than he was last week. We really need him and AC to bring the heat this week.

Our DE's were exposed in the run game last week and I think we'll see NO run a balanced attack. They'd be stupid to sit back and throw it all day.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Our DE's were exposed in the run game last week and I think we'll see NO run a balanced attack. They'd be stupid to sit back and throw it all day.

They don't have the same kind of physical ground game that the Giants do. Their bread and butter is the passing game. I'm not overly concerned with them running, I think we can shut them down in that area but the passing game concerns me, especially if Springs isn't healthy. They've got weapons all over the place through the air.

[nolafan33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They don't have the same kind of physical ground game that the Giants do. Their bread and butter is the passing game. I'm not overly concerned with them running, I think we can shut them down in that area but the passing game concerns me, especially if Springs isn't healthy. They've got weapons all over the place through the air.

i think yall will need to gameplan for pierre thomas. yall will be very suprised by the kid. imo he's by far the best runner the saints have. one, or even two guys won't bring him down. he isn't that big but he's very strong and has speed.

and thanks for the welcome matty