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Old 09-07-2004, 06:58 PM   #16
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My bad, I "forgot" about the '91 team.. I don't consider Rypien supremely talented, he was just amazing that year so that's why I ignored them.. That was a great team though..
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:13 PM   #17
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A couple of stats about that 1983 team that I don't think have been mentioned here and are truly jaw dropping stats-first of all they scored well over 500 points. It might still be a record, unless the Rams broke it recently. And the other amazing stat is a +43 turnover ratio. Think about that. +43! That's just sick

Actually the viking's broke it.
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:27 PM   #18
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1991 or 1999 teams are the only ones I have seen. I was still like 6 in 91 so I didnt really understand.
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:58 PM   #19
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Although personality wise the 82 were my favorite, the 91 team was no slouch either.
I have the SuperBowl Program (no I didn't go to the game, I ordered it from the NFL)
pretty remarkable.....Ernest Byner was the Redskin's primary ball carrir and gained 1,048 yds for the 3rd time in his 8 year career and was selected to his second pro-bowl. Then comes Ricky Ervins, Ervins led all NFC rookie running backs with 680 yds. In short yardage the Skins relied on Riggs, usally supported by a trio of tight ends. Riggs in the warhead in the Skins Jumbo set. The tight ends, Don Warren, Ron Middleton, Terry Orr, and James Jenkins figure prominetly in the Redskins blocking scheme. Of Orr's 10 receptions 4 were for touchdowns. Because of the protection Rypien receives he is rarely flushed from the pocket. The Redskins vertical passing attack includes deep pass patterns, frequently on play-action, set up by a numbing ball control ground game. The primary WR targets Art Monk and Gary Clark who combined for 141 catches and 18 touchdowns in the 91 season. When the Skins go in a 3rd receive set the 2 are joined by Ricky Sanders, a sure handed veteran who contributed 45 receptions and 5 touchdowns in the regular season. Rypien enjoys the best pass protection in the NFL. He was sacked only 7 times all season. Rypien blossomed in 91 when he fully embraced the disciplined system of head coach Joe Gibbs. He quit forcing passes into double coverage and threw the ball away in the face of a heavy rush. The Redskins defense ranked 3rd in the NFL against the run.The D line was a solid group-Charles Mann, Fred Stokes, Eric Williams, and Tim Johnson. LBs-Andre Collins and Wilber Marshall. Danny Copeland and Brad Edwards were the pair of free agent safeties, both sure tacklers, who aggressively come up and support the run defense. Special teams-like a fine wine Chip Lohmiller gets better each year, he lad the NFC in scorring and field goals in 1990, in 1991 shared the field goal lead with Miami's Pete Stoyanovich. Brian Mitchell was 2nd in the league on punt returns, and 8th in the NFC in kickoff returns. Gibbs and his superb coaching staff (Richie Petitbon deserves special mention on defense) have taken these disparate parts and made them into a powerful force. This is a team that plays even better than the sum of it's considerable parts because it plays together, because it is always well prepared, because it almost never makes costly errors.
MY NOTE--Let's hope Gibbs, coaching staff, and team do it again like they did in 91...
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:12 PM   #20
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Rypien enjoys the best pass protection in the NFL. He was sacked only 7 times all season.
Imagine if Ramsey saw that stat? He'd cream his pants..
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:28 PM   #21
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Actually the viking's broke it.
You're right. I knew it was one of them dome teams. Has anyone topped the +43 turnover ratio?
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:34 PM   #22
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I would have to go with the 91' team. I watched the Playyoffs and Super Bowls in 82'&83' but was in 2nd and 3rd grade so I really didn't appreciate how great they were at the time. The 91' season was awsome.
I can remember the season starting out with an absolute ass kickin of Detroit. And it didn't seem to stop untill we got to Minnesota. The lose to the Cowboys was the only real lose all season! And it figures it was to a Cowboy team that won like 3 games! When we lost to Philly it was the last game of the season and we had allready clinched home feild thru out the playoffs and were resting alot of are starters.
I got to see that team beat up on the L.A Lams here is Anaheim that year. That was the last time I saw Gibbs on the sideline in person. I can't wait untill Sep 27th. To see him down on the sidelines again! D.C here I come.



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Old 09-07-2004, 10:39 PM   #23
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91' team

The 91 team hands down.

Still had the hogs
Solid WR's in the Posse
Great blocking TE in Donnie Warren
Great Solid QB and RB's
Solid D'line, CB's and LB's

But there is one thing that we had and for the past 11 years we were missing, a solid Saftey, in 91 we had Brad Edwards a monster saftey.


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Old 09-07-2004, 10:41 PM   #24
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The offensive line for the 91 team was unbelievable. The guys played together as a unit in a way that has never been duplicated. Rypien was not a great quarterback. Gibbs created a situation where Rypien could set back in the pocket and survey the field and pick it apart without having to consider the pass rush. Like Gibbs said, there are about 4 or 5 guys out there that can play QB in the NFL if you can't protect them... but if you do protect them there are about 40 or 50 guys!
Just think... we have the Gibbs protection schemes and a vet, mobile, effiecint QB in Brunnel. This year or next could end up being a very special year for the Redskins!
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:15 PM   #25
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Best Team - '83
Team that was most successful - '91
My Favorite - '72-'73 The cast of characters "The Over the Hill Gang" Sonny, Billy, Larry Brown, Charlie Haraway, Charlie Taylor, Roy Jefferson, Len HAuss, Chrish Hamburger, Mo Pottios, Ron McDole, Jack PArdee, Pat Fisher, Ken Houston, Brig Owens, Bragg, Knight, Malanchuck. These are just a few names I could go on and on. This team in my opinion was awsome.
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:18 PM   #26
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The 91 team hands down.

But there is one thing that we had and for the past 11 years we were missing, a solid Saftey, in 91 we had Brad Edwards a monster saftey.
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Wo dude Brad Edwards a monster saftey??? HE fit the system but was not great nor solid. Slow to react. Didn't they call this group the PEarl HArbor Gang for all of the bombs that were thrown on them,.
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:59 PM   #27
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If you can't name the players please don't list your favorite team based on their record alone. The most talented team Joe Gibbs has ever coached was the 1982 team. Look at this line-up: (The Hogs) Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, George Starke and Mark Murphy. DT ( The Gently Giant) Dave Butz. DE's Dexter Manley and Darryl Grant. ( The Smurfs) Alvin Garrett, Virgil Seay and Charlie Brown. (THE ART MONK) TE's Clint Didier , Don Warren and Rick Walker Seconday(The Pearl Harbor Crew) Vernon Dean, Tony Peters, Barry Wilburn and Mark Murphy. (The Diesel) John Riggins. HB Joe Washington LB's Rich Milot, Neal Olkewicz and Monte Coleman And last but not least the most talented punt/kick off returner I have ever seen, 7-time pro bowler Mike Nelms. Show a Redskins team with this line-up. Remember, this team won the our first Superbowl and it was Joe Gibbs's second season as Head Coach.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:04 AM   #28
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The 91 team hands down.

Still had the hogs
Solid WR's in the Posse
Great blocking TE in Donnie Warren
Great Solid QB and RB's
Solid D'line, CB's and LB's

But there is one thing that we had and for the past 11 years we were missing, a solid Saftey, in 91 we had Brad Edwards a monster saftey.


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I beg your pardon. Before Brad Edwards there was Mark Murphy (No.29). This Safety could bring the wood. He was the mentor to Darrell Green in the the 1983 season.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:07 AM   #29
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Best Team - '83
Team that was most successful - '91
My Favorite - '72-'73 The cast of characters "The Over the Hill Gang" Sonny, Billy, Larry Brown, Charlie Haraway, Charlie Taylor, Roy Jefferson, Len HAuss, Chrish Hamburger, Mo Pottios, Ron McDole, Jack PArdee, Pat Fisher, Ken Houston, Brig Owens, Bragg, Knight, Malanchuck. These are just a few names I could go on and on. This team in my opinion was awsome.
I'm glad to see someone who remembers some of the greats. Charlie Taylor, Brigg Owens, Roy Jefferson, Ken Houston, Larry Brown, Pat Fischer and Billy Kilmer were my favorites of that era.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:14 AM   #30
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If you can't name the players please don't list your favorite team based on their record alone. The most talented team Joe Gibbs has ever coached was the 1982 team. Look at this line-up: (The Hogs) Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, George Starke and Mark Murphy. DT ( The Gently Giant) Dave Butz. DE's Dexter Manley and Darryl Grant. ( The Smurfs) Alvin Garrett, Virgil Seay and Charlie Brown. (THE ART MONK) TE's Clint Didier , Don Warren and Rick Walker Seconday(The Pearl Harbor Crew) Vernon Dean, Tony Peters, Barry Wilburn and Mark Murphy. (The Diesel) John Riggins. HB Joe Washington LB's Rich Milot, Neal Olkewicz and Monte Coleman And last but not least the most talented punt/kick off returner I have ever seen, 7-time pro bowler Mike Nelms. Show a Redskins team with this line-up. Remember, this team won the our first Superbowl and it was Joe Gibbs's second season as Head Coach.
Barry Wilburn? You mean Jeris White right?
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