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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
My point is that sometimes you should veer from your draft board and go for positional needs. We had already locked Cooley up long term, so TE wasn't a great need. Cooley has never missed a game due to injury, so you're effectively drafting a #2 TE with a 2nd round pick. If you're not going to even try to get Davis on the field in 2 TE packages, then it's pretty clear that drafting for other positional needs would be helping the team more at this point.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
Watching Davis play in college, it is pretty obvious that he can run and he can catch the football. That is what got him drafted.
As to why he isn't on the field over Yoder - who is a decent TE but nothing more - it really has to be one of two reasons. And you will never get an NFL coach to tell you which one: 1. He isn't smart enough to understand his responsibilities on a wide enough spectrum of plays that they don't dare put him out there for much of anything lest he make a big mistake. 2. He can't block at all and putting him there could place Jason Campbell and/or any of the running backs in serious danger. It pretty much has to be something along the lines of one of those two things...
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
Well, if we're talking Bennett vs. Fred Davis strictly, I thought Bennett was the better prospect. I was surprised we passed over him for Davis. Luckily, we had just taken Devin Thomas over Jordy Nelson and DeSean Jackson, so my ire was directed elsewhere.
But unlike DT, I have no reason to doubt that Fred Davis will be a quality WR/TE hybrid in this league. I want to say we haven't needed him yet, but that's just not true. We have needed him, and we're just digging in all the wrong places for help at WR.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
As a slot receiver, I think the argument can be made that he doesn't provide any abilities in a spread-em-out throw it around type situation that James Thrash doesn't have.
However, the argument that can not be made is that Todd Yoder is somehow better than Fred Davis because of his veteran presence or something. Davis>Yoder and it's really not even close. Yoder blocks like a WR and receives like a lineman.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
After careful consideration and intensive inquiry I can confidently say we drafted Fred Davis because... he has the best weed connections on the West Coast and everybody knows West Coast bud beats the hell out of that East Coast crap
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
I also think there was no plan to get him into the gameplan at all this game because our strategy was to spread Dallas out presnap and exploit matchups. So no reason for a second TE. Or Sellers, after the first drive, apparently.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
I'm sorry if stated earlier but here's my take....we were not pass blocking. It doesn't matter who you put in with no pass blocking. Also they (Dallas)were not getting the ball to anyone so I see them using him as a despiration move.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
^ I was actually going to make a smart comment like....." we drafted him for our two TE sets" that we never see. lol. but decided against it.
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Why did we draft davis? straight from vinny's mouth he said they had davis graded out as a first round talent and he was available in the second round . . . just like when he had taylor jacobs graded out as a first round talent and got him early in the second round. also vinny said you can find good talent on O and D line in the later part of the draft, he then rattled off names like rob jackson, golston others. lol and dont give vinny credit for horton, as vinny said they picked him in the compensation round after the 7th round so he had no idea either because if he did he said he would have drafted him in the 2nd round. i have zero faith in vinny. JC and cooley were joe gibbs picks, dont know about landry ST or rogers. go skins!!! edit: i would have liked to spread the 2nd round picks to other areas of the team, but i have no problem with the guys we got. they could have contributed more so far but their time to contribute is coming in a few years when moss slows and ARE is gone. |
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
I think the real question is, Do you draft for the best overall player? Or, Do you draft for need?
I guess we drafted for best overall player. The problem w/ that is bringing 2 WRT rooks up to speed at the same time. It's hurting our team right now. I'm not necessarily down on Thomas, Kelly, Davis. I think we could have something there w/ their size and talent. Maybe we should have added some oline depth in their somewhere or maybe some d line depth in there. We need to spend about 3 - 4 picks just on lineman. |
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
Some of you expecting EVERY draft pick to immediately get significant playing time and make big contributions can never be satisfied. Davis is a great depth player, a big blocker when we need him and if Cooley misses time, he could fill in as a receiving TE reasonably well. He's not a first-rounder, drafted to start and fill a need. I have no complaints about him and believe he'll be useful if not valuable in the future.
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Re: Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?
I did see Fred on the field several times last night too.
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