Washington Post Today ~ Empty Seats Irk Arrington

REDSKIN2 · 09-08-2004, 05:26 PM

I think the two preseason games this summer were just bad timing. The first one against Carolina we were expecting hurricane Charley and the second one last week was at 7 p.m. on a Friday before Labor Day. I have full confidence that Fed Ex will be packed and loud on Sunday. I can understand Lavar but in the fans' defense there have been plenty of big games the last 6 or 7 years that the fans have brought it as the 12th man and been ready to go and the Redskins have just plain flopped and looked unmotivated (I'm thinking of a lot of Dallas games). So they owe us a few in my opinion.

Daseal · 09-08-2004, 07:09 PM

A lot of the "fans" can't get tickets, the WP owns em all =p

MTK · 09-08-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

Hey Laavar has only dealt with this for 5 years. I've put up with this since Gibbs left 12 years ago. FEDEX will never be anther RFK. To big and not partially enclosed. The sound just doesnt' resonate in there. I am always loud and so have been most of the regulars. But expecting 92,000 on a Friday of Labor Day weekend, no way. I suspect that this will be a full house like every other openning day. But will be a bit louder due to the Gibbs factor. I just don't agree with Arrington about preseason games and him being irked at the turn out. Star player or not I will call them out as I see it. I do wear a Arrington jersey to the game and stand directly behind the team as they warm up before every game. I am the loudest down by the sidelines before the game and have called Snyder out on many occasions. I pay, I speak, I yell, and I cheer. If he is irked for lack of fan support for 1 game then I am irked at the crap I have put up with for 12 years.

Did you see the VT-USC game last week??

FedEx can be loud, it's the fans that are the problem, not the stadium.

CRT3 · 09-08-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Did you see the VT-USC game last week??

FedEx can be loud, it's the fans that are the problem, not the stadium.

yes i agree. What do you think was the median age of the crowd?

SKINSnCANES · 09-08-2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

A lot of the "fans" can't get tickets, the WP owns em all =p

haha, yea thats it!!

FedEX will be loud again now that all the stupid bandwagon fans jumped back on the bandwagon.

sportscurmudgeon · 09-08-2004, 08:37 PM

Excuse me, but I am tired of Lavar Arrington being upset about this or irked by that. He gets mad at teammates and at coaches and at fans. Who's next, they poor guy that sells hot dogs but doesn't put a full squirt of mustard on them?

I don't mind taking criticism but shouldn't the guy who is the highest paid player on the team and the guy who says that he wanted to have input into who came to the defense and who got cut do something like produce wins on the field before he tells me what to do?

Since Lavar arrived in DC and bestowed his greatness on us unappreciative slackards of fans, how many division titles has he won? OK, how many games over .500 has he pushed the team to be?

Memo to Lavar: STFU until you show that YOU are a winner and not a whiner.

Daseal · 09-08-2004, 09:08 PM

I'm a bit irked at LaVars contract dispute.

MTK · 09-08-2004, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

yes i agree. What do you think was the median age of the crowd?

Certainly a lot younger (and enthusiastic) than the wine and cheese crowd sundays at FedEx.

MTK · 09-08-2004, 09:12 PM

LaVar is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

We complain when we don't have a team leader, someone to speak up and lay down the law now and then. Then we complain when someone voices their opinion a little too strongly.

He just wants a hyped up crowd, I really don't see where he's saying anything so out of the ordinary and crazy. Again, the gold section of FedEx looks pathetic on sundays. I'd be ticked about it too if I was a player.

CRT3 · 09-08-2004, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Certainly a lot younger (and enthusiastic) than the wine and cheese crowd sundays at FedEx.

So my point is that the higher the price of the ticket then the median age of the fan goes up. Therefore those who do go and use this as a business expense which is the only group that can really afford to go, makes the crowds a little less crazy. Hard to entertain a client and being going bizerk at the same time. I take clients to the game but I let it all out at the game. My vice. You either deal or don't deal with me on the everyday basis.

But if the price was lowered you would have a younger more enthusastic crowd. But to pay people like Lavaar you have to raise the rates therefore diminishing the overall enthusiams of the game day fan. So untill Lavaar wakes up and understands the reality, we have to call him to the carpet on his mistakes. But he is one bad ass football player.

sportscurmudgeon · 09-08-2004, 09:47 PM

Matty:

Lavar Arrington is not damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Because all he ever does is complain about something so no one ever has had the chance to react to him doing anything else.

Oh, I forgot. He does something besides complain. He makes excuses when the team loses and blames someone else.

Daseal · 09-08-2004, 10:09 PM

Telling fans to come to their seats isn't being a team leader. I want someone to move the team, not the fans.

MTK · 09-08-2004, 11:09 PM

LaVar isn't perfect, I just think you guys are overreacting a bit to his plea for a rowdy crowd on sunday.

He makes one comment and everyone drags out all of his dirty laundry. He's amped about the season, what Gibbs' return means to the team and to it's chances for finally getting over the hump.

Sorry, I just don't see his comments as 'complaining' at all.

MTK · 09-08-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

So my point is that the higher the price of the ticket then the median age of the fan goes up. Therefore those who do go and use this as a business expense which is the only group that can really afford to go, makes the crowds a little less crazy. Hard to entertain a client and being going bizerk at the same time. I take clients to the game but I let it all out at the game. My vice. You either deal or don't deal with me on the everyday basis.

But if the price was lowered you would have a younger more enthusastic crowd. But to pay people like Lavaar you have to raise the rates therefore diminishing the overall enthusiams of the game day fan. So untill Lavaar wakes up and understands the reality, we have to call him to the carpet on his mistakes. But he is one bad ass football player.

I thought your original point was that FedEx was too big and open to be loud.

I was merely pointing out the fact the stadium can be loud, with the right kind of crowd.

love them hogs · 09-08-2004, 11:32 PM

Lavar has every right to get on the fans.I have been to a couple of games the last two years and to be frank I was pissed off about how many fans from the other team were there.

Now about the gold seats in the club level,I would close that damn cigar bar with all those leather arm chairs to get all those "wine and cheese" fans back out to their seats.

09-08-2004, 05:26 PM	#16
REDSKIN2 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 33	I think the two preseason games this summer were just bad timing. The first one against Carolina we were expecting hurricane Charley and the second one last week was at 7 p.m. on a Friday before Labor Day. I have full confidence that Fed Ex will be packed and loud on Sunday. I can understand Lavar but in the fans' defense there have been plenty of big games the last 6 or 7 years that the fans have brought it as the 12th man and been ready to go and the Redskins have just plain flopped and looked unmotivated (I'm thinking of a lot of Dallas games). So they owe us a few in my opinion.

09-08-2004, 07:09 PM	#17
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	A lot of the "fans" can't get tickets, the WP owns em all =p

09-08-2004, 08:37 PM	#21
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Excuse me, but I am tired of Lavar Arrington being upset about this or irked by that. He gets mad at teammates and at coaches and at fans. Who's next, they poor guy that sells hot dogs but doesn't put a full squirt of mustard on them? I don't mind taking criticism but shouldn't the guy who is the highest paid player on the team and the guy who says that he wanted to have input into who came to the defense and who got cut do something like produce wins on the field before he tells me what to do? Since Lavar arrived in DC and bestowed his greatness on us unappreciative slackards of fans, how many division titles has he won? OK, how many games over .500 has he pushed the team to be? Memo to Lavar: STFU until you show that YOU are a winner and not a whiner.

09-08-2004, 09:08 PM	#22
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I'm a bit irked at LaVars contract dispute.

09-08-2004, 09:12 PM	#24
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	LaVar is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. We complain when we don't have a team leader, someone to speak up and lay down the law now and then. Then we complain when someone voices their opinion a little too strongly. He just wants a hyped up crowd, I really don't see where he's saying anything so out of the ordinary and crazy. Again, the gold section of FedEx looks pathetic on sundays. I'd be ticked about it too if I was a player.

09-08-2004, 09:47 PM	#26
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Matty: Lavar Arrington is not damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Because all he ever does is complain about something so no one ever has had the chance to react to him doing anything else. Oh, I forgot. He does something besides complain. He makes excuses when the team loses and blames someone else.

09-08-2004, 10:09 PM	#27
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Telling fans to come to their seats isn't being a team leader. I want someone to move the team, not the fans.

09-08-2004, 11:09 PM	#28
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	LaVar isn't perfect, I just think you guys are overreacting a bit to his plea for a rowdy crowd on sunday. He makes one comment and everyone drags out all of his dirty laundry. He's amped about the season, what Gibbs' return means to the team and to it's chances for finally getting over the hump. Sorry, I just don't see his comments as 'complaining' at all.

09-08-2004, 11:32 PM	#30
love them hogs Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baltimore for now Age: 46 Posts: 235	Lavar has every right to get on the fans.I have been to a couple of games the last two years and to be frank I was pissed off about how many fans from the other team were there. Now about the gold seats in the club level,I would close that damn cigar bar with all those leather arm chairs to get all those "wine and cheese" fans back out to their seats.

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