Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs Seahawks)

[redsk1]

Sellars really had a very good game..would have been a great game if not for the drop. He was flat out, leveling people out there.

It was nice to see Kelly out there. Gotta keep the D's honest w/ Moss on the other side.

Is it just me or does Andre Carter look really slow out there? I really don't understand why we're paying him so much money. He's a good guy, and a very hard worker, but talent wise, mediocre at best.

Our secondary is pretty good.

[Takeuon]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Sellars really had a very good game..would have been a great game if not for the drop. He was flat out, leveling people out there.

It was nice to see Kelly out there. Gotta keep the D's honest w/ Moss on the other side.

Is it just me or does Andre Carter look really slow out there? I really don't understand why we're paying him so much money. He's a good guy, and a very hard worker, but talent wise, mediocre at best.

Our secondary is pretty good.

Sellars had a good game.Was really making some nice powerful blocks. But his drop was unacceptable. Those kind of drops are one of the reasons our offense is unable to get it done in the red zone. Those mistakes against the Giants and we are in for a real long day.
On the bright side.....I was pleased to see Campbell fairly mobile and pick up some yards when he had the opportunity. And as far as Moss's left hand Jab goes....REALLY lucky his ass did not get tossed outta the game!

[MTK]

Sellers' drop was very disappointing, he's got to catch that. It's also very indicative of how things have gone this year. It just seems like there's always a play or two each game that prevents us from opening up a nice lead.

[firstdown]

I noticed on Betts runs when he hits the whole and is fighting for more yards he tends to turn his back to try and make a push. This leaves him open to getting hit as he is now more up right pushing backwards with his legs. He did this twice yesterday and is probably the reason he fumbled the ball. He needs to lower his head and drive the pile instead of trying to push the pile. If you don't understand what I'm talking about think of a person pushing a car with their butt against the car.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I noticed on Betts runs when he hits the whole and is fighting for more yards he tends to turn his back to try and make a push. This leaves him open to getting hit as he is now more up right pushing backwards with his legs. He did this twice yesterday and is probably the reason he fumbled the ball. He needs to lower his head and drive the pile instead of trying to push the pile. If you don't understand what I'm talking about think of a person pushing a car with their butt against the car.

My guess is his knee still isn't 100% so he's not comfortable driving forward on it after contact.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Sellers -- not Sellars, people.

As for his drop, yeah it was disappointing, but I don't like the play call in that situation. 3rd and inches, I'd like to see a trap or dive. I love the play they called, just not in that situation. I'd call it on 3rd and 2 or 3 -- not 3rd and inches. Gonna have to give Zorn a little smackdown on that one.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Sellers -- not Sellars, people.

As for his drop, yeah it was disappointing, but I don't like the play call in that situation. 3rd and inches, I'd like to see a trap or dive. I love the play they called, just not in that situation. I'd call it on 3rd and 2 or 3 -- not 3rd and inches. Gonna have to give Zorn a little smackdown on that one.

If Sellers held it, people would have been singing praises to Zorn and Sellers. as it was, just another drive that ended with poor execution. (Especially after Sellers had been asking for the ball so much) Normally Sellers makes that and scores.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Sellers -- not Sellars, people.

As for his drop, yeah it was disappointing, but I don't like the play call in that situation. 3rd and inches, I'd like to see a trap or dive. I love the play they called, just not in that situation. I'd call it on 3rd and 2 or 3 -- not 3rd and inches. Gonna have to give Zorn a little smackdown on that one.

I actually liked the call, and the execution was all there right up to the drop.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

My point is that we can convert on 3rd and inches in so many different ways. Why put it on Sellers to make that catch? He's a blocking fullback. We were in the red zone, and only had inches to go. There are so many other plays that would have had a higher probability of success in that situation. If it was 2nd down, then okay. I would have rather seen a dive, trap or sneak -- all of which have a higher likelihood of success. Bad play call, IMO, considering it cost us 4 points.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

My point is that we can convert on 3rd and inches in so many different ways. Why put it on Sellers to make that catch? He's a blocking fullback. We were in the red zone, and only had inches to go. There are so many other plays that would have had a higher probability of success in that situation. If it was 2nd down, then okay. I would have rather seen a dive, trap or sneak -- all of which have a higher likelihood of success. Bad play call, IMO, considering it cost us 4 points.

Why not?

We've had great success with that play action flip to Sellers in the past. The guy generally is pretty reliable when it comes to those. I don't see the problem with the call, just the drop on Sellers' part.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why not?

We've had great success with that play action flip to Sellers in the past. The guy generally is pretty reliable when it comes to those. I don't see the problem with the call, just the drop on Sellers' part.

I agree, we have had great success on that play. I like the play too. It was just too big of a play. In those "big play" situations, I believe we should run plays which have the highest percentage of success. Now, our history shows that is a good percentage play, but Sellers is due to drop one here and there. Well, he did, and the whole time I was thinking, "You've got to catch that, but I can't be mad you didn't -- that's not your forte." If Moss or Cooley dropped one in the hands on that play, I'd be pissed -- pass catching is their primary responsibility. Sellers' primary responsibility is blocking. Same reason I can't be too upset if a play breaks down due to a poor block from Moss. Know what I mean?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I agree, we have had great success on that play. I like the play too. It was just too big of a play. In those "big play" situations, I believe we should run plays which have the highest percentage of success. Now, our history shows that is a good percentage play, but Sellers is due to drop one here and there. Well, he did, and the whole time I was thinking, "You've got to catch that, but I can't be mad you didn't -- that's not your forte." If Moss or Cooley dropped one in the hands on that play, I'd be pissed -- pass catching is their primary responsibility. Sellers' primary responsibility is blocking. Same reason I can't be too upset if a play breaks down due to a poor block from Moss. Know what I mean?

No I don't actually, but we'll just agree to disagree. It's not like Sellers is Mr. Stone Hands, he's a capable enough of a receiver to expect him to catch those.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

No I don't actually, but we'll just agree to disagree. It's not like Sellers is Mr. Stone Hands, he's a capable enough of a receiver to expect him to catch those.

These were some funny, and a bit enlightening, comments by Zorn about Sellers

"There was a couple times when really Ladell should have been in there, or Clinton should have been in there, like the screen," Zorn said. "Nobody knew I was calling the screen, and all of the sudden I called the screen, and Mike's in there, and everybody's going, "oh no, MIKE's in there!"

“We’re trying to score 40, but it seems like … even on that third-and-one, when we tried to get Mike Sellers the ball. And bless his heart, he tried to handle the ball, but we always talk about, as quarterbacks, to running backs and tight ends, you’ve got to keep the ball in the core. And what I mean by that is, don’t put the ball so above his head, like he has to actually extend his arms, because it’s tough. They don’t get to catch a lot of balls like that. We’re always trying to put the ball here, at his face or at his shoulders.”

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

No I don't actually, but we'll just agree to disagree. It's not like Sellers is Mr. Stone Hands, he's a capable enough of a receiver to expect him to catch those.

You're right, he's not Mr. Stone Hands, and that is not my point. I'm not saying don't call that play because he's not capable. I'm saying a Sellers trap would have been more likely to succeed on that play. I just don't see the logic in calling a lower percentage play just because, "he's capable."

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why not??

We've had great success with that play action flip to Sellers in the past. The guy generally is pretty reliable when it comes to those. I don't see the problem with the call, just the drop on Sellers' part.

Wasn't it last year he had like 7 TDs out of 8 touches in the red zone?