Stan Hixon

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by saden1

Ummm, the offensive failure is entirely on Zorn. Lets not start with the scapegoating,

Be honest with yourself.....our WR's sucked during Gibbs second term as well. We bring in two new taller WR's and they can't get on the field. why? coaching. Hixon needs to go. but....just in case you have a point which I'm not totally dissagreeing with....Christensen brings alot to the table. He used to be and still is a WR's coach, He used to be an OC which might bode well with helping Zorn out with some decent plays in stretching the
field. It's a wonderful double wammy for us if we bring him in.

[saden1]

I am being honest with myself. If Hixon sucked so much why was he kept? It was a perfect time to clean house and they didn't which tells me that either he is a good coach or our management is incompetent.

[SBXVII]

wow you keep hitting the nail on the head but do you think management is going to blame itself? most likely not. Hixon was a WR coach in college prior to Gibbs pulling him into the NFL. They thought his abilities would carry over from the college level and it didn't. Zorn kept him cause he was told most of the coaching staff would remain in place for him. All he had to do was bring in a new offense and coach. I can only hope he sees what we have seen for the last 5 seasons. Simply put nothing out of our WR's. They run wrong routes, and they don't know the plays. Something the coach is responsible for. If you can't get rid of management then atleast get rid of half the problem.

Plus Christensen could help Zorn with developing decent pass plays.

[jamf]

I wish we still had Robiskie.

[53Fan]

Hixon definitely needs to be looked at. A few of us have been saying this for awhile. When your receivers are not running their routes correctly of course you look at the position coach. Why would'nt you?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by saden1

I am being honest with myself. If Hixon sucked so much why was he kept? It was a perfect time to clean house and they didn't which tells me that either he is a good coach or our management is incompetent.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm........

[theJBexperience]

I agree. Hixon has had his chance to prove himself, and he hasn't under three different OCs. I like the idea of Christensen, but I can't see him leaving. Please, do not bring in Seattle's guy though. I can't remember when they've been strong at WR. Until this year, they've always seemed to have adequate performances from middle of the road receivers, but it's never been a strength.

[Miller101]

I'd like to see us bring in Russ Grimm. Make him head coach and then bring in the wide reciever's coach from Arizona with him! I'm still not sold on Zorn staying here. There were just to many times when Zorn did dumb stuff................hopefully, those 24 points against San Fran was more adjusting and less luck. But, I'm still not sold on it.

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by Miller101

I'd like to see us bring in Russ Grimm. Make him head coach and then bring in the wide reciever's coach from Arizona with him! I'm still not sold on Zorn staying here. There were just to many times when Zorn did dumb stuff................hopefully, those 24 points against San Fran was more adjusting and less luck. But, I'm still not sold on it.

There's an interesting scenario. Maybe next year if Zorn tanks again.

[redsk1]

I don't know whether Hixon is a good coach or not. As for our recievers let's wait a year or two before we judge our 2 rooks. But the point i'm going to make here is...it doesn't matter how good you coach you need players. Let's make a comparison here:

NYG: Burress, Toomer, Smith, Hixon, Moss, Manningham

Skins: Moss, Thrash, ARE, Thomas, Kelly

NYG's have 5 better recievers than the skins hands down.

Dallas: Owens, RW, Crayton, sorry to lazy to look up there 4th's, 5ths

Better than the skins. I think we have better recievers than the Eagles but that's not saying too much.

So you can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****. We need more talent.

[NWFanMan]

Zorn should bring in his buddy Steve Largent who I think all ready lives in the DC area, even though he would add to the Redskin Republican base there.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

I agree. Hixon has had his chance to prove himself, and he hasn't under three different OCs. I like the idea of Christensen, but I can't see him leaving. Please, do not bring in Seattle's guy though. I can't remember when they've been strong at WR. Until this year, they've always seemed to have adequate performances from middle of the road receivers, but it's never been a strength.

Well, Hasselbeck has made 3 or 4 pro-bowls and won an NFC Championship with those less-than-big-name WRs. Darrell Jackson had some nice years there, and Bobby Ingram caught like 95 balls in 2007.

You can't count 2008 because Hasselbeck and most of the WRs were shredded by injuries, but every other year they have had a very good passing offense with, as you say, middle of the road guys.

For the record, their WR coach is right now is Keith Gibertson . He was new to their staff this year. I don't know who it was in previous years when Zorn was there. In light of that fact, I would say no to bringing in Gilbertson.

If anyone can find out who their WRs coach was when Zorn was there, I'd love to know. I poked around for a while but couldn't find him.

[cpayne5]

I think it's funny that people want to blame Hixon for the WR troubles. It's an easy assumption to make -that he's the problem- but the arguments are baseless, or shallow at best.

We have no idea what his duties are behind the scenes. Yes, he's the WR coach, but what does that entail under Zorn? Does he come up with his own teaching tools, or use those dictated by Zorn and/or Sherman Smith? How much time does he get to "teach" each week? What do the players think about his coaching skills?

There are hundreds of pertinent questions like these that we just do not know the answers to. Without that knowledge, I don't think anyone here is qualified to give an opinion, with any expectation respectability, about the replacement of coach Hixon.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I think it's funny that people want to blame Hixon for the WR troubles. It's an easy assumption to make -that he's the problem- but the arguments are baseless, or shallow at best.

We have no idea what his duties are behind the scenes. Yes, he's the WR coach, but what does that entail under Zorn? Does he come up with his own teaching tools, or use those dictated by Zorn and/or Sherman Smith? How much time does he get to "teach" each week? What do the players think about his coaching skills?

There are hundreds of pertinent questions like these that we just do not know the answers to. Without that knowledge, I don't think anyone here is qualified to give an opinion, with any expectation respectability, about the replacement of coach Hixon.

Well, our WRs are NEVER open downfield, and Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas struggled big time with the learning curve from college to pros. I know that's not all Hixon's fault, but he has to shoulder some of that blame. I'd say that's a bit more than shallow and baseless.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Hasselbeck has made 3 or 4 pro-bowls and won an NFC Championship with those less-than-big-name WRs. Darrell Jackson had some nice years there, and Bobby Ingram caught like 95 balls in 2007.

You can't count 2008 because Hasselbeck and most of the WRs were shredded by injuries, but every other year they have had a very good passing offense with, as you say, middle of the road guys.

For the record, their WR coach is right now is Keith Gibertson . He was new to their staff this year. I don't know who it was in previous years when Zorn was there. In light of that fact, I would say no to bringing in Gilbertson.

If anyone can find out who their WRs coach was when Zorn was there, I'd love to know. I poked around for a while but couldn't find him.

Nolan Cromwell. He is currently the OC at Texas A&M.