Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job

davy · 01-15-2009, 01:05 PM

I pity the poor Saints fans, they probably think they are getting a good DC.

The Goat · 01-15-2009, 01:05 PM

Man this is pretty interesting. Every year NO has that high-flying offense but can't become an elite team due to average/inconsistent defensive effort. Remember Williams took our d from average/inconsistent to a top 10 unit in 3 of his 4 years. This could be the move that puts NO in the elite category.

Ruhskins · 01-15-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

I pity the poor Saints fans, they probably think they are getting a good DC.

Why do you say that?

davy · 01-15-2009, 02:00 PM

The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date.

The Goat · 01-15-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date.

A little more explanation would be helpful. Our d was average/inconsistent before Williams came to town and he turned it into a top 10 unit for 3 of his 4 years. Do you mean it had nothing to do w/ him?

SC Skins Fan · 01-15-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

Do you think he pushes for a trade for Rogers? I certainly don't want him to be traded but I keep hearing the rumor he could be gone. This would go right in line with GW's track record for bringing in former players...

HAIL!

Interesting thought. Though I am now convinced that the whole "Rogers trade" is simply a product of LaCanfora's imagination. I was never a JLC hater, but he has progressively alienated me and his position by position "breakdown" was so horrible that I have no reason to believe anything puts out there.

SFREDSKIN · 01-15-2009, 02:37 PM

He already has Torrence whom he loves and if he trades for Rogers I would like a Vilma for Rogers trade.

Ruhskins · 01-15-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date.

GW turned our defense into a top 10 defense in the years that he was here (save for that one year we went 5-11). His defense is the reason Gibbs 2.0 had winning seasons, since the offense never amounted to much. I don't think he is THE top DC in the league, but he is a very good one.

Dirtbag59 · 01-15-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

Do you think he pushes for a trade for Rogers? I certainly don't want him to be traded but I keep hearing the rumor he could be gone. This would go right in line with GW's track record for bringing in former players...

HAIL!

Though he probably likes Rogers the fact remains that there are FA corners available and on top of that I doubt he would be involved in giving the Redskins anything of value in exchange for one of their players.

FRPLG · 01-15-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date.

Then you are blind. He has had top defenses everywhere he has gone and actually been in charge of the defense. Tennessee, Buffalo and Was all had good defenses. Outside of one below average year here and one below average in JAX(where he didn't have quite the control he needed) his defense have always been very good.

Defensewins · 01-15-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Then you are blind. He has had top defenses everywhere he has gone and actually been in charge of the defense. Tennessee, Buffalo and Was all had good defenses. Outside of one below average year here and one below average in JAX(where he didn't have quite the control he needed) his defense have always been very good.

You are correct. GW is a very respected DC in the NFL. His peers respect him and the players do as well. I am not sure davy has the same credentials?

GTripp0012 · 01-15-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Nnamdi to the Saints?

Saints need secondary help and some pass rush help

I'm not sure they have the money to throw at him (not in like, salary cap dollars, but I mean actual real dollars), but I could see them at least asking us about Rogers. He fills a Grand Canyon sized hole for them.

I'd do Rogers for their first rounder, but nothing less than that.

MTK · 01-15-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Then you are blind. He has had top defenses everywhere he has gone and actually been in charge of the defense. Tennessee, Buffalo and Was all had good defenses. Outside of one below average year here and one below average in JAX(where he didn't have quite the control he needed) his defense have always been very good.

I agree, the guy is a proven DC in this league. His resume speaks for itself.

Schneed10 · 01-15-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by davy

The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date.

WTF are you talking about?

You weren't impressed with his 1999 and 2000 Titans defenses? The 2000 team actually ranked higher in yards allowed than the vaunted 2000 Ravens D that season.

You didn't like his top 10 defenses here in DC?

You weren't impressed by his top 10 defenses in Buffalo?

Or do you just not watch football.

firstdown · 01-15-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly NO is already better then the two playing in the NFC Championship this sunday. Actually a lot teams i nthe NFC are. Sad. Go Cardinals!

If your in the NFC and are sitting at home your not better then the teams still playing and thats said after we beat Philly twice this year.

01-15-2009, 01:05 PM	#16
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 936	Re: Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job I pity the poor Saints fans, they probably think they are getting a good DC. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

01-15-2009, 01:05 PM	#17
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job Man this is pretty interesting. Every year NO has that high-flying offense but can't become an elite team due to average/inconsistent defensive effort. Remember Williams took our d from average/inconsistent to a top 10 unit in 3 of his 4 years. This could be the move that puts NO in the elite category. __________________ 24-34

01-15-2009, 02:00 PM	#19
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 936	Re: Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job The popular belief in the media and in GWs own head is that he is one of the top DCs in the league. I can see no justification for that in his career to date. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

01-15-2009, 02:37 PM	#22
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job He already has Torrence whom he loves and if he trades for Rogers I would like a Vilma for Rogers trade. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

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